List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Cuzz09]

devrob played 1 GF and Lions lost

missed 2 and they won 2.

 

[rebel23]

devrob played 1 GF and Lions lost

missed 2 and they won 2.

Haha can't compete with that!

Although we've won like 5 games over 3 seasons.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Dev is pretty unexciting. But the case i can make for him is that if we have him then over the next 3 or so years when somebody breaks team rules of not running both ways or has 3 bad games in a row we will have the option to drop them to the WAFL for a spell. Which is a luxury we don't we really have at the moment. We are forced to keep playing guys when we would like to be able to set some standards by dropping them because our depth is so bad. The opportunity to have some selection integrity is badly needed. So i am happy to have one Dev for that reason. But i wouldn't want 3 or 4 of them clogging the list up over the longer term.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

It looks like it is not full salary cap exemption for 3 years in the case of medical retirement as we have all been assuming. FoxSports says it is 90% exemption in the year the player is medically retired, 75% of the 2nd year and 50% of the 3rd year.

 

[TheBudgies]

It’s not my opinion, it’s that of the experts. You can take your argument up with the professional draft watchers and recruiters, I’m sure they would be very interested as to why you know better than the expert consensus.

Going off Cal’s rankings as he is the most accurate, CDT has been the #1 ranked player in every form guide up until a few days ago when Duursma edged ahead. They are the clear top 2 in the open pool.

I think you’ve completely missed the point of the discussion anyway. The point was being made by posters that picks 1 & 2 should only be used on the ‘best available’ which refers to the highest rated or best/most talented player at that pick irrespective of position.

Meaning even if a team is flush for mids, if they are going ‘best available’ and the highest rated player at their pick is a mid then they take him anyway, ignoring ‘needs’ or positional priorities.

What you’re referring to by rattling off all those positions and existing players is whether CDT fills a ‘need’. That’s the opposite of what was being discussed.

I was simply highlighting the hypocrisy of posters stating that picks 1 & 2 must be used to take ‘best available’ because they like Duursma at pick 1, but when CDT is best available at pick 2 they say “Oh no not him”. He is the next best ranked so taking anyone other than him is a needs pick. Which is fine, but you can’t say Sharp or player X is best available just because you like them.

FWIW I’d be happy to take neither of Duursma or CDT. Split and take a mix of pure mids. Could potentially get 3 of Sharp/Robey/Cumming/Greeves/Farrow or 2 and a KPP like Schubert.

Cal isn't the most accurate until after the combine and trade period. He's at form guide ranking stage not draft predictions, which is an important distinction.

I dont care about position of need so much as AFL future and CDT is i believe overstated as he doesn't have a clear position where he is the best available. Yes it's noteworthy that we have lots of backup rucks (which is probably what CDT will be) but if he was best player available at 2 we should still take him. Problem I'm illustrating is CDT doesn't have a set position to be best available at.

Is he the best ruck in the draft? No
Best midfielder? No
Best KPP ? No

CDT is generally ranked from pick 3 - 9ish whereas Sharp Annable and Uwland are all chances at pick 1 in various rankings and apart from Cal I haven't seen any of those 3 make it past pick 5.

 

[Hasselhough]

Just pointing out that a $900 000 salary is not that big anymore.

FMD mate, he's not better than anyone one of those players IMO.

Comparing him to Jack Graham who has come second in a Best and fairest and polled in the Norm Smith medal

900k per year got GWS band 1 last year

 

[thebutterflyeffect]

Dev was overlooked by Brisbane for 19 year old pick 25 Sam Marshall for the finals for a reason. He's not good enough.

Let's be real here. From our starting midfield this year only Harley Reid would have been able to crack into Brisbane's grand final team. As much as we rave about Hewett he would be behind Dev in midfield pecking order over there.

 

[ziad]

It looks like it is not full salary cap exemption for 3 years in the case of medical retirement as we have all been assuming. FoxSports says it is 90% exemption in the year the player is medically retired, 75% of the 2nd year and 50% of the 3rd year.

we could live with that

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Let's be real here. From our starting midfield this year only Harley Reid would have been able to crack into Brisbane's grand final team. As much as we rave about Hewett he would be behind Dev in midfield pecking order over there.

I don't agree with that.

Hewett has more talent than Dev in his little finger, you'd have to assume his development trajectory would be accelerated in their side. He'd definitely be ahead of Dev and I suspect Marshall at this stage.

 

[thebutterflyeffect]

I don't agree with that.

Hewett has more talent than Dev in his little finger, you'd have to assume his development trajectory would be accelerated in their side. He'd definitely be ahead of Dev and I suspect Marshall at this stage.

He definitely has more talent but we can't compare counterfactuals as to if he'd have been a better player in the Brisbane because no matter how likely it is we can't ever be sure. All we can do is compare Hewett in 2025 v Dev in 2025. Hewett as he currently plays is mid forward explosive player. I reckon Rayner and Bailey have him covered. Dev would be ahead of him as a pure midfielder as no one would doubt he'd have better running power and is a stronger two way player. I don't think GF sides are picked on potential and purely focused on who will give you more on the day.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Id say the below would have played in any GF

Harry Edwards over Darcy Gardiner

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Darcy Gardiner

Age

30

Ht

192cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

2.1

4star

G

0.0

1star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.1

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.0

1star

Tom McCarthy over Ryan Lester

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Ryan Lester

Age

33

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.7

4star

MG

170.4

3star

D

10.3

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

140.7

3star

D

12.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

0.6

3star

Brady Hough over Brandon Starcevich

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Brandon Starcevich

Age

26

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.2

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

185.3

3star

D

9.5

2star

K

7.3

3star

HB

2.3

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.1

3star

MG

187.9

3star

D

8.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

181.2

3star

Jake Waterman

2

Jake Waterman

Age

27

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

2star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.8

5star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

over Ty Gallop
Harley Reid over Bruce Reville
Elijah Hewett over Sam Marshall

 

[amazingjoshy]

Eagles sweat over health of key free agent target; veteran Crow nearing big call — Trade Whispers

Eagles’ ‘big worry’ over key trade target; Crows veteran’s contract reveal — Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[mattyc75]

We won 1 game this year and you don't "see the rush" to get good players.
Seriously?

We don't even know if Warner will come to us IF he comes back home.
We need all of the good players we can get, now.

It's hard enough to get any players to the club, let alone really good ones.
As long as we do due diligence on Starcevich, it's a no brainer.

Please don't mention Starcevich and brain in the same sentence

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Id say the below would have played in any GF

Harry Edwards over Darcy Gardiner
Brady Hough over Ryan Lester
Tom McCarthy over Brandon Starcevich
Jake Waterman over Ty Gallop
Harley Reid over Bruce Reville
Elijah Hewett over Sam Marshall

McCarthy would have played on Dangerfield?

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Eagles sweat over health of key free agent target; veteran Crow nearing big call — Trade Whispers

Eagles’ ‘big worry’ over key trade target; Crows veteran’s contract reveal — Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

But in a relief for West Coast supporters, the club’s purported six-year offer isn’t fully guaranteed if Starcevich isn’t able to hit games-based triggers.

“It’s not a six-year deal that’s guaranteed. I can tell you tonight that it’s got some games-based triggers, so it might be four or five years guaranteed, and then you’ve got to play a certain amount of games to get that six-year (term) ... right now, that deal is still on the table,” Ralph added.


Not a relief. It's a lot of money for a shut down HBF.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

McCarthy would have played on Dangerfield?

Hough would have. Id have put McCarthy on Close in my example however I worded it poorly

Better way of wording it would be

Brady Hough for Brandon Starcevich
Tom McCarthy for Ryan Lester

 

[Goroyals22]

Id say the below would have played in any GF

Harry Edwards over Darcy Gardiner
Brady Hough over Ryan Lester
Tom McCarthy over Brandon Starcevich
Jake Waterman over Ty Gallop
Harley Reid over Bruce Reville
Elijah Hewett over Sam Marshall

Well I’d be keeping your mouth shut..
Edwards, Hough and McCarthy wouldn’t even make the emergency list of Brisbane gf side let alone displace those guys..

Junktime probably should get in over a guy that’s played less than ten games but his injured so he wouldn’t.

And it would be Reid over Marshall but Hewett wouldn’t get in over reville.

 

[thebutterflyeffect]

Id say the below would have played in any GF

Harry Edwards over Darcy Gardiner
Brady Hough over Ryan Lester
Tom McCarthy over Brandon Starcevich
Jake Waterman over Ty Gallop
Harley Reid over Bruce Reville
Elijah Hewett over Sam Marshall

When I talked about this I specifically mentioned midfielders. However, apart from Harley and Jake on that list no other guarantees. I'd say both Elijah and Tom are flat out wrong given I don't think Tom McCarthy is a better lock down option on Dangerfield than Starcevich. Elijah is mid forward and would not be suitable for the more balanced, defensive leaning role of Marshall. If Hewett were to play he would be competing for spots against Rayner and Zac Bailey

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Well I’d be keeping your mouth shut..
Edwards, Hough and McCarthy wouldn’t even make the emergency list of Brisbane gf side let alone displace those guys..

Junktime probably should get in over a guy that’s played less than ten games but his injured so he wouldn’t.

And it would be Reid over Marshall but Hewett wouldn’t get in over reville.

Oh yeah if we offered McCarthy/Hough for Reville in a trade Lions would turn us down for sure

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

You'd hope Oscar would get a run for Brisbane

 

[Jootube]

CDT is generally ranked from pick 3 - 9ish whereas Sharp Annable and Uwland are all chances at pick 1 in various rankings and apart from Cal I haven't seen any of those 3 make it past pick 5.

Not being funny, but do you have a genuine draft watcher who is rating Sharp at number 1?
Would love for you to share

 

[Happy Mastenator]

But in a relief for West Coast supporters, the club’s purported six-year offer isn’t fully guaranteed if Starcevich isn’t able to hit games-based triggers.

“It’s not a six-year deal that’s guaranteed. I can tell you tonight that it’s got some games-based triggers, so it might be four or five years guaranteed, and then you’ve got to play a certain amount of games to get that six-year (term) ... right now, that deal is still on the table,” Ralph added.


Not a relief. It's a lot of money for a shut down HBF.

Re-enforces what we worked out yesterday. Means we can only offer four years guaranteed, otherwise we are exposed

And in the unfortunate hypothetical event that Starcevich is medically retired in the future, whichever club has his contract on their books will be covered for three further years of that deal.

Under the AFL’s rules, if he was medically retired by an AFL panel, he would have 90 per cent of his salary exempted from the salary cap in the year after he exited the game. In the second season post-retirement he would have 75 per cent exempted, then 50 per cent in the third — but after the third, no more protection.

 

[Goroyals22]

Oh yeah if we offered McCarthy/Hough for Reville in a trade Lions would turn us down for sure

They aren’t the same position players you pickle. Reville is a midfielder/ wing. Our two are defenders…

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Not being funny, but do you have a genuine draft watcher who is rating Sharp at number 1?
Would love for you to share

From what I've seen with the draft ratings it appears to be (not counting unavailable players) a case of

Duursma
.
.
CDT (risky but maybe higher ceiling if it all goes right) v Sharp (low risk, may not have ceiling of CDT)

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Chesser and Ryan want out
Saints want picks this year for Flanders and Aleer (and Ryan) plus a mid but rising NGA
Blues want to move 10 for a decent F1

Eagles
In 10, Blues F2
Out end R1, Hawks R3, Chesser, Ryan

Blues
In Chesser, StKF1
Out 10, F2

Saints
In Ryan, end R1, Hawks R3
Out F1

I thought about Hawks R1 but went for later pick plus Hawks R3 as they will need more picks Saints can afford then to keep Marshall and Wilkie

We can take off the R3 and pay some Ryan $$