List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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• Player contract status
• Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Tugga27]

This expectation that our 18-20yo recent draftees should be match winners already is so delusional. There are very few Harley daicos Ashcroft types. The fact we actually have one is pinch yourself stuff.

Gross and Bo will be fine..

Example
Zac Bailey.
Gun. Kick straight and he's the norm smith medalist.
Bombers offered 6yrs @1.3mil
But go look at his career stats. He really has only hit his straps the last three seasons.
The crucial stat, CONSISTENCY...he has played all 8 seasons for 166 games.

TBF, he didn't say they were going to be match winners.

He just said he rates them higher than Dev.
So do I.

 

[WCE777]

This expectation that our 18-20yo recent draftees should be match winners already is so delusional. There are very few Harley daicos Ashcroft types. The fact we actually have one is pinch yourself stuff.

Gross and Bo will be fine..

Example
Zac Bailey.
Gun. Kick straight and he's the norm smith medalist.
Bombers offered 6yrs @1.3mil
But go look at his career stats. He really has only hit his straps the last three seasons.
The crucial stat, CONSISTENCY...he has played all 8 seasons for 166 games.

This.
All draftees won't start showing their potential until at least 3 years into an AFL system.
You get a decent injury and you have E Hewett who has massive growth to come because he has missed so much development while injured.
This is the norm for draftees, if they show a heap in the 1st couple of years you have generally got a gun player in that position.

 

[amazingjoshy]

The PP not having to be traded changes things. Was sure that would be a condition

Def shouldn't be offering it up for Starcevich now

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

We should absolutely not trade picks 19 & 20, before Oscar compo and academies rort, for starcevich.

Of course we are committed though.

It's too late for 19 or 20. We've already made a commitment to Hawks R1.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

I wonder when the Exit interviews for Brisbane are. Would need to be soon. I would have thought Starcevich would officially tell the club and announce he is going probably today. The silence makes me wonder whether we are amending the terms offered and there is haggling going on behind the scenes.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

I wonder when the Exit interviews for Brisbane are. Would need to be soon. I would have thought Starcevich would officially tell the club and announce he is going probably today. The silence makes me wonder whether we are amending the terms offered and there is haggling going on behind the scenes.

Thursday

 

[TerryFilk]

Happy with the charity we’ve received but I just know instead of using that priority first to trade up with, it’ll probably be spent on Starcevich which is ridiculous.

 

[eaglevision]

Pretty shit that there’s no provision to pre-list NGAs.

Have to package up end 1R pick with Hawks R1 and trade it to GCS for their pick 7. That’s the only way to extract maximum value from it via points before the bids come in.

Also the end 1R pick will be eaten by an Annable bid if traded to Brisbane. IF we trade for Starcevich, using a Chesser/Ryan pick and our Hawks 2R would give them more points and be preferable for us.

 

[rebel23]

You say “better than” .Are you taking into account the future? Coz that’s where you want to bring Dev. He’s reached his ceiling as far as I can see.I think Gross for example has a much higher ceiling and Bo’s is untapped.Off ya trot!

I'm talking about now... Not future as its too hard to project ...too many variables

I actually want to win games before the end of the world

 

[eaglesnutcase]

This.
All draftees won't start showing their potential until at least 3 years into an AFL system.
You get a decent injury and you have E Hewett who has massive growth to come because he has missed so much development while injured.
This is the norm for draftees, if they show a heap in the 1st couple of years you have generally got a gun player in that position.

I agree in part.I think a player can show in 5mns if he has “it”.But having “it” doesn’t necessarily mean they will go on with it.
Players seem to be emerging much quicker these days.
Reid at Freo,Shanahan,Wiz etc. Better training,diet,etc
But as you say some take years and are a slow burn.
I look at a side as how I think it will end up.
I have Greco HEd Hough at f/b
Ginbey,Starcevich,Macarthy,Boas h/bs
Shanahan, Waterman as key forwards.
HR,Hewett,Gross as followers
AR as ruck.
There are probably B- players around at the moment who could perform better in some of those spots but they are not the future.
We should get games into our futures.
Baker,Graham,Duggan etc fill the gaps till we draft more.
I’m positive about our future and I don’t think it’s 5-6 years away.

 

[darksquare]

I don't understand how pre-listing NGAs would even work. I mean, if another club thinks Tylah Williams is worth pick 30, he'll want to go there rather than come to us. Pretty harsh to say "sorry, buddy, enjoy your one year as a rookie". So it makes sense to wait for the national draft to finish, after which we can (and always could) add our NGAs to the Cat-B list. The advantage is that we can then add them all, and keep Coen Livingstone as well if we don't find Cat-A rookies that we think are draftable.

 

[Goroyals22]

Who had before 5pm on the second day of trade radio before this topic came up on their bingo card

 

[Shueygod]

I'm talking about now... Not future as its too hard to project ...too many variables

I actually want to win games before the end of the world

Right now Dev would struggle to make our fully fit team.

He would offer barely more than Hall while having less development in him.

The only reason to grab him would be to strengthen our depth and WAFL team.

 

[eaglevision]

I don't understand how pre-listing NGAs would even work. I mean, if another club thinks Tylah Williams is worth pick 30, he'll want to go there rather than come to us. Pretty harsh to say "sorry, buddy, enjoy your one year as a rookie". So it makes sense to wait for the national draft to finish, after which we can (and always could) add our NGAs to the Cat-B list. The advantage is that we can then add them all, and keep Coen Livingstone as well if we don't find Cat-A rookies that we think are draftable.

The NGAs don’t HAVE to accept being prelisted as rookies. They can say no thanks I’ll try my luck in the draft. I would be very surprised if any of our NGAs wanted to leave WA.

 

[eagles rule]

Please read the above bolded bits and wrap your noodle around it so we don't need to keep having the same discussion over and over again.

It's not a case of who's the better player, it's a case of cost and risk.
Because picking up a guy who undisputedly has concussion issues immediately after McGovern was just medically retired on top of Sheppard and Venables is a much smarter idea.
"It's worked out really well for us before"

Luke Edwards had to be retired as well..

 

[kranky al]

Wasn't the prevailing view that we were likely to take Allan at 3 anyway. So splitting the pick netted us Baker, while still getting the guy we wanted? IMHO, the jury is still out on whether we should have rated Allan so highly. Early days, but we are also looking pretty stupid for ignoring Murphy Reid who is looking like a superstar. Allan's ability to play midfield has always been up for debate... did we give up pick 3 to basically get a half-back flanker?

Peak eagles

 

[eagles rule]

devrob played 1 GF and Lions lost

missed 2 and they won 2.

Was Starc on Bobby ?

 

[CountryLad]

Is the compensation pick staying ahead of any further end of 1st round compensation given for free agency?

 

[rebel23]

Right now Dev would struggle to make our fully fit team.

He would offer barely more than Hall while having less development in him.

The only reason to grab him would be to strengthen our depth and WAFL team.

Agree to disagree... Guys like hall and Dewar and hutch even Kelly should be depth until they prove themselves.
They were atrocious last year.
And yes I know Dev didn't really play for Brisbane... But he made it count in the reserves by being really good... Which one of our names actually did that?...
No one... Beagles were f..in useless

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Right now Dev would struggle to make our fully fit team.

What is this mythical creature of which you speak?

 

[Shueygod]

Agree to disagree... Guys like hall and Dewar and hutch even Kelly should be depth until they prove themselves.
They were atrocious last year.
And yes I know Dev didn't really play for Brisbane... But he made it count in the reserves by being really good... Which one of our names actually did that?...
No one... Beagles were f..in useless

All of the guys you’ve named have had better games at AFL level than Devs best. What has Dev proven exactly?

 

[Mr Q]

Just saw Trac and Harley at Herdsmen market

Guys i'm working from home and just popped out to get a coffee at Bertoni's here in Balmain and saw Petracca there. Not sure why you're saying he's in WA. Trac to Sydney/GWS confirmed.

That's just where Trac ended up after Harley fended him off.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

IN good news. Getting end of first round puts us in prime position for trading up.

We'll have 15, 19, 20.

North have 20,21 - will now be 21, 22.
Essendon have 22, 25, now will be 23, 26.

 

[Barrybran]

Is the compensation pick staying ahead of any further end of 1st round compensation given for free agency?

I wouldn't think so. I suppose there is an argument that pick 19 is now a first round pick and a new end of the first round pick would now be pick 20.

 

[shooshka]

There is so comparison between WD and HR. WD has only just edged into #1 ranked for the first time a few days ago. He wasn’t even been top 2 until recently if you include the academy boys. He wouldn’t go top 10 in any other draft. HR was identified as a generational talent years out from his draft year and maintained a huge gap to the next best, no one got close to being drafted ahead of him at any point.

True re HR being rated a long way out, but it doesn’t change the fact that Duursma is not just rated the best talent (clearly) in the open pool - but in the pool including Academy kids also.

He has separated himself from the pack significantly (and to be clear I’m not saying his ceiling is HR like - nor arguing it is a strong draft - just that he is clearly #1 and if we choose to trade the rights to him we have to get well overs).

We would have traded HR for 2+3 (thankfully Nth never offered it!!), but refused for 2+19+20. I’d suggest this year would be similar (probably don’t give 1 up for 2,19,20 pre compo) - but would bite a hand off for 2+3. 2+12-15 would get it done I’d say if we want to trade back.