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Harley Reid extends to 2028

List Changes - 2025
  • Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
  • Jayden Hunt announces retirement
  • Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
  • Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
  • Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
  • List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

Key Offseason Dates
Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft
 
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With the no prelisting of the ngas, how will this work at the draft? Are we gonna keep a bunch of 3rd or 4th rd picks in case they are bid on or hope they are not bid on and make it to rookie list?
 
It's amazing that so called experts who are paid to give their opinions can be so out of touch and show a complete lack of understanding/context while being so confident to the point of arrogance. Jenkins is the only one with a little bit of sense which says a lot as he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

Would love for someone to call up and point Barrett on the spot and ask him to back up his opinions.

Blaming arrogance and saying everyone in footy saw WC downfall coming after 2018/19 is pure revisionism and there's probably never been a club lose so many stars at their peak in such a short time to reoccurring soft tissue injuries, concussions and impact injuries. Yes the drafting in that period was poor but we were a club who had played finals 5/6 seasons in a row while also travelling the most in the competiton by a long way, which then coincided with covid lockdowns and soft cap cuts that hurt us far greater than east coast teams.

He then talks about the club being the richest in the country but he clearly has no basic understanding of the soft cap or luxury tax works and that exceeding it is essentially untenable as it compounds year after year, and then what are you supposed to do, just sack the extra staff you hired?

How are you supposed to access the best talent in coaching and medical when we are so geographically isolated and not even able to spend the extra money to make the move worth it? Not to mention the club is run by the WAFC who probably don't want to piss away the same profits they use to fund WA footy on an insane tax.

He's pulling his hair out over us receiving one measly end of first round pick that will probably come in around 30 despite North, GC etc getting far more as assistance and the fact that basically all the current top teams have been rorting the draft in one way or another to a far greater extent for years now, which has created a far harsher rebuilding environtment today than at any time in the past.

Guy is a low IQ w***er and has been thieving a living for way too long.

I don't like Barrett but to his credit, he has been steadfast on his opposition to assistance packages and free agency compensation - even when his own club (North Melbourne) were direct benefactors.

So he is consistent, if nothing else, in his opinions in this regard.
 
I dont understand why people make such a big deal about us getting assistance. Back in the day you got assistance after 2 consecutive poor seasons regardless of whether you won a premiership recently. We've had 4 consecutive poor seasons now so by the old method would be on our second round of assistance by now. Its only an end of first round pick.
 

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So now our picks and spots are finalised (well almost - I am assuming some FA picks incl Oscar at 2)

Picks: 1,2,17,24 (AFL Assist), 25,39,57

Assuming Dons want Duursma - yes we trade pick 1

1. Dons - pick 1 + 24 for picks 5 + 6 (I would probably go as much as the Hawks R1)
2. Saints - pick 17 + F3 + 57 + Ryan salary paid for St K F1
3. Blues - Chesser for F2 (and we will bid early on Dean if they play games)
4. Lions - 39 for Starcevich AND Dev or we bid on Annables at 1
5. Tigers - 57 + F4 for Young (goodwill they owe us on the Baker trade last year)

Draft
2 Sharp
5 Cumming
6 Schubert
25 Rodriguez
Match for senior list Banfield - no points required
Rookie draft Stumpf and Blight (SSP)
Cat B - Willliams, Evans, Walley joining Champion and Livingstone

Senior spots = 38, Rookie = 7, Cat B = 5

Future hand
2 x R1 (Own and Saints)
2 x R2 (Own and Blues)
nothing else in 2026 and full 2027

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I don't like Barrett but to his credit, he has been steadfast on his opposition to assistance packages and free agency compensation - even when his own club (North Melbourne) were direct benefactors.

So he is consistent, if nothing else, in his opinions in this regard.
That's more of a broken clock being right twice a day scenario than anything else.

When you have premiership teams and other top clubs rorting the draft year after year to the point that a 1 or 2 win team gets the privilege of taking their 2nd round pick in the 30s, making rebuilding more difficult than ever despite being at historically uncompetitive levels and you're more worried about a flag they won almost a decade ago than you are about even trying to understand what other external factors may have led a team to be in such a position, then you don't deserve any credit.
 
Hough isn’t a real midfielder yet in his first season with midfield opportunities he’s outperformed Robertson’s career?

Surely you’d rather persist with the bloke that’s better and has more development than the state league player.

Graham is a better midfielder right now than Robertson, he would also be tearing apart the VFL in the middle if he played there.

Kelly and Yeo are obviously better players, noting I did say fully fit.

What has Robertson done at AFL level to show you he’s better than these players.

He’s played 10 games with over 40% CBA’s for a career high 5 clearances, Hall bettered that 3 times this year from his 9 games above 40%, non midfielders Hough and Graham also bettered it just this season.

At what point does the 24yo lose the “potential from lack of opportunity” tag.

Again I’d pick him up to bolster the Beagles.
You say over 40% CBA's but that's a bit ambiguous.

One player it may mean 45% CBAs and the other 80%CBAs

For starters dev has played a lot as the sub
 
Twomey reporting WC are interested in Tom Blamires from Frankston who won the Fothergill-Round-Mitchell medal recently.
Some of his highlights look half decent.

I think i like the idea of Blamires rather than the eye test itself.

Basically he's very much another version of what Michael Selwood was, who we were into previously.

180cm, small defender accumulator. Worth a look to make our Beagles team more competitive at the very least.

Chuck him in along with Milan Murdock and Dev and our WAFL team is instantly better and Gross doesn't have to do it all himself.
 
19 and 20 will end up mid 20's. 25 to 27 IMO.

We landed Shanahan at 30 last year.

Rodreguez, Swaddling and Curtin will all be there around those picks. And others.
Last years draft and this one are completely different.

This draft seems like 2022 over again .

Go back and look at how many good players there are after pick 20 in 2022

Then look at the top 20 and see how many misses there are too
 

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You can’t say “they should all be delist candidates” then say you were just generalising.

If you name a bunch of players and say they’re all delist fodder you’re referring to the entire group of players you just named.

That’s how language is supposed to work.
Since you're being pedantic and clearly going 🎣... I'll play along... These players i mentioned.

Kelly - delist
Hutchinson - 2 yr ext
Dewar - 1 yr ext
Hall borderline delist -plodder according to me ( sorry hall fanboys)
Allan unproven but underwhelming

But let's sing Kumbaya and give them all years and years
 
Screw it and go with first 5 picks unchanged and take:

Duursma, Robey, Phillipou, Dovaston and Emmett.

Then fill our boots with Williams, Walley, Evans, Banfield and a couple of Tigers cast offs.

Surely we can get at least 4 quality first 18 players out of that group in due course.

Offer Brissie a token pick for Starcevich; and provided he remembers where he got traded to....... then happy days are here again (well, maybe by 2028).
 
It's amazing that so called experts who are paid to give their opinions can be so out of touch and show a complete lack of understanding/context while being so confident to the point of arrogance. Jenkins is the only one with a little bit of sense which says a lot as he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

Would love for someone to call up and point Barrett on the spot and ask him to back up his opinions.

Blaming arrogance and saying everyone in footy saw WC downfall coming after 2018/19 is pure revisionism and there's probably never been a club lose so many stars at their peak in such a short time to reoccurring soft tissue injuries, concussions and impact injuries. Yes the drafting in that period was poor but we were a club who had played finals 5/6 seasons in a row while also travelling the most in the competiton by a long way, which then coincided with covid lockdowns and soft cap cuts that hurt us far greater than east coast teams.

He then talks about the club being the richest in the country but he clearly has no basic understanding of the soft cap or luxury tax works and that exceeding it is essentially untenable as it compounds year after year, and then what are you supposed to do, just sack the extra staff you hired?

How are you supposed to access the best talent in coaching and medical when we are so geographically isolated and not even able to spend the extra money to make the move worth it? Not to mention the club is run by the WAFC who probably don't want to piss away the same profits they use to fund WA footy on an insane tax.

He's pulling his hair out over us receiving one measly end of first round pick that will probably come in around 30 despite North, GC etc getting far more as assistance and the fact that basically all the current top teams have been rorting the draft in one way or another to a far greater extent for years now, which has created a far harsher rebuilding environtment today than at any time in the past.

Guy is a low IQ w***er and has been thieving a living for way too long.
Are you telling me the guy that has been writing a sliding doors column for years that actually doesn’t understand what a sliding door moment is, isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed?
 

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Think he's a midfielder from Frankston. Won the Fothergill-Round-Mitchell medal this year.
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You say over 40% CBA's but that's a bit ambiguous.

One player it may mean 45% CBAs and the other 80%CBAs

For starters dev has played a lot as the sub
Games with 60-70% CBA’s:

Dev Rob: 15.3d, 2cl, 0.3G, 5t
E.Hewett: 17.4, 5cl, 0.5g, 2.5t
Hall (played 0 games 60-70, lowered to 50-60): 15d, 4cl, 0.25G, 3.5T


How ambiguous is that?

Devon Robertson is just not up to it.
 
Since you're being pedantic and clearly going 🎣... I'll play along... These players i mentioned.

Kelly - delist
Hutchinson - 2 yr ext
Dewar - 1 yr ext
Hall borderline delist -plodder according to me ( sorry hall fanboys)
Allan unproven but underwhelming

But let's sing Kumbaya and give them all years and years
Why would you delist Hall to bring in an older worse version of Hall?
 
I think i like the idea of Blamires rather than the eye test itself.

Basically he's very much another version of what Michael Selwood was, who we were into previously.

180cm, small defender accumulator. Worth a look to make our Beagles team more competitive at the very least.

Chuck him in along with Milan Murdock and Dev and our WAFL team is instantly better and Gross doesn't have to do it all himself.
Managed to beat both De Goey(in the goalsquare) and Treloar when matched up on them.

He works in Collingwood's marketing team and felt bad that he did a number on them(44 possessions) in a VFL game Collingwood had to win. Had only been there 3 weeks but everyone congratulated him. Bobby Hill also gave him high praise.

Adam Treloar even texted him to say how impressed he was when he played on him.

Pretty good recognition.
 
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