List Mgmt. 2025 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[KingV23]

Trac played the whole year under Goodwin this year, and only requested a trade now with their new coach coming in.

With Goodwin gone, surely he would have stayed if he was the issue?

Good point.

 

[Troystenvic]

Would be nice to be able to fit Curnow and Trac under the cap. Throw in JUH in for a 4th rounder and stuff all dollars and we would have done impressively.

I could see a point to this at the cost of Campbell and a Florent, Hayward type and first round pick and others. but do we have the funds

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Can understand a few rookie spots earmarked for delisted FAs or bringing in mature agers from state leagues. But draft picks are nonsense.

When you come last and your second rounder is pushed to the 30’s with all the compensation they probably deserve one. It’s not much anyway just a pick that will end up 25 ish

 

[TheGoatBaron]

No need to apologise, I bow my head before TheGoatBaron as well, and depending on how I feel, maybe even a curtsy.

I’m so lost here…

 

[Bloods86]

When you come last and your second rounder is pushed to the 30’s with all the compensation they probably deserve one. It’s not much anyway just a pick that will end up 25 ish

They can split pick one or two, use future picks, or trade players if they want. They made their bed with poorly timed trading and putting a lot of eggs in one basket.

 

[joeykanga]

Ramps is a strange re-sign, not sure what the club is thinking. I love the man but I feel we need better alternatives down back.

Worst yet though is it seems we have no immediate valid replacement or were not able to obtain one.

He could end up in tje vfl at some point which is probably something we need anyway. Its not like we have depth there at times

 

[SSwans2011]

Where has the story come that Petracca and Goodwin don't get along?

To me it's more so that he's leaving because he wants a fresh start after going through a traumatic experience poor handling of it by the Dees, so it stands to reason that following his former coach might not be ideal.

It could be a complete non-factor though. Or even if it isn't, it's just one of many things he would be considering when weighing up potential destinations, and it's unlikely to be one of the more important ones.

 

[FreeAgent1]

Strange Lloyd hasn’t re-signed if he got a 2 year deal now on the table…..

Not sure where else he would go

 

[TasSixer]

Trac strikes me as super professional. He wanted to leave last year. Didn't kick up a stink when it didn't happen and played this year with no drama's. No BS like Merrett and Curnow seem to be trying to do. Has asked to leave again and wouldn't shock me if he ended up staying. I don't think Goodwin being here means anything.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Same here but I can see the need for another KPF since Amartey has been injury prone & McDonald is returning from a long lay off. Buller is also leaving & Mclean had a poor year too. If we don't get Curnow then I hope we get someone serviceable. Ideally Buller stays but pies ffs.

Agree about the need but if we are successful in getting Trac we would have nothing to trade with and no-one except Curnow or JUH to go for. Devil's bargain as there would go our first pick as well. That Bowman pick just keeps biting (again no shade on the bloke himself) when we should be developing a tall.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

They can split pick one or two, use future picks, or trade players if they want. They made their bed with poorly timed trading and putting a lot of eggs in one basket.

Or the AFL can stop making the first round farcical. The first round should be as close to 18 selections. Why should WC have to split pick 1 for rubbish teens picks when they should hold pick 19 in the second round not pick 30. That’s how compromised this draft has become.

Now hopefully the changes over the next year or two cleans the mess up its good for all clubs

 

[tombomb]

To me it's more so that he's leaving because he wants a fresh start after going through a traumatic experience poor handling of it by the Dees, so it stands to reason that following his former coach might not be ideal.

It could be a complete non-factor though. Or even if it isn't, it's just one of many things he would be considering when weighing up potential destinations, and it's unlikely to be one of the more important ones.

So long story short, people are just making stuff up.

 

[Bloods86]

Or the AFL can stop making the first round farcical. The first round should be as close to 18 selections. Why should WC have to split pick 1 for rubbish teens picks when they should hold pick 19 in the second round not pick 30. That’s how compromised this draft has become.

Now hopefully the changes over the next year or two cleans the mess up its good for all clubs

Or staying on topic, the Eagles could suck it up and make sensible decisions.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Every year it seems the same conundrum we end up (desperately) having to try and trade assets in because we fail to draft and develop KPD and KPF stocks.

Our "depth" is so poor that soon as Amartey gets injured(which is a given) we lose all semblance of structure.

We will be back to square one soon needing another Ruck

 

[SSwans2011]

So long story short, people are just making stuff up.

Not personally, no. Just some casual speculation in the 2025 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals thread

 

[TasSixer]

Every year it seems the same conundrum we end up (desperately) having to try and trade assets in because we fail to draft and develop KPD and KPF stocks.

Our "depth" is so poor that soon as Amartey gets injured(which is a given) we lose all semblance of structure.

We will be back to square one soon needing another Ruck

We did draft one that has developed well this year. He wants to go to Collingwood

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Or staying on topic, the Eagles could suck it up and make sensible decisions.

They shouldn’t have to. You come last you get picks 1&19 period

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

We did draft one that has developed well this year. He wants to go to Collingwood

Thats because he saw himself behind Hamling/Francis playing forward..

Dont blame him one bit.

 

[Neverwas]

As far as I can assess, now that we have retained Rampe and added Rosas we have a senior list of 36, if you count Lloyd and Ladhams.That leaves no room for draftees.

However we also need to upgrade Edwards to the senior list. Which means that we have minus one spots available for draftees. If we enlarge the senior list to 38 as we have the right to do, we have one spot available.

So if we want to bring in 2 draftees on the senior list and get, say, Petracca ,we either have to say goodbye to Lloyd and Ladhams or, alternatively, trade out 1 or two mystery players from the senior list.

Unfortunately this means that the Academy kids aren't going to get much of a look in.It also means, if Ladhams goes, that we will need to bring in another ruck. So one of those few draft picks or trades is going to be committed for a backup ruck.

This does not seem to be a very good set of circumstances.

 

[Bloods86]

They shouldn’t have to. You come last you get picks 1&19 period

Lol, a club shouldn't have to make sensible decisions. Righto.

 

[FreeAgent1]

As far as I can assess, now that we have retained Rampe and added Rosas we have a senior list of 36, if you count Lloyd and Ladhams.That leaves no room for draftees.

However we also need to upgrade Edwards to the senior list. Which means that we have minus one spots available for draftees. If we enlarge the senior list to 38 as we have the right to do, we have one spot available.

So if we want to bring in 2 draftees on the senior list and get, say, Petracca ,we either have to say goodbye to Lloyd and Ladhams or, alternatively, trade out 1 or two mystery players from the senior list.

Unfortunately this means that the Academy kids aren't going to get much of a look in.It also means, if Ladhams goes, that we will need to bring in another ruck. So one of those few draft picks or trades is going to be committed for a backup ruck.

This does not seem to be a very good set of circumstances.

So I think we are losing Buller and maybe Florent (tbc)

I just always assumed that Lloyd and Rampe would be retaken as rookie spots to leave us the flexibility. I mean who else is going to pick them up.

I expect us to have 2/3 live selections on draft night.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Lol, a club shouldn't have to make sensible decisions. Righto.

They should at least be given the selections they deserve and in their case it was 1&19 you aren’t giving up a generational talent for a couple of dart shots on the teens in a skinny draft made skinner by the picks being pushed out. Whether they trade them is up to them but they shouldn’t be diluted so much that they are barely second rounders.

It’s why they needed to clean the mess up and thankfully they have.

Matching gift picks with two selections will be a great thing from next season.

This is a good change for all clubs ours included

 

[bloodsbigot]

Yeah this was the player I was told to keep quiet about

Has been in the media, but in no way linked to the Swans, both the club and his management wanted to keep it quiet.

His not our main priority, more of an option if Curnow falls down (which links back to us being confident on landing him).

He should be by far and away our main target.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

He should be by far and away our main target.

Agree, then take a swing at JUH for a packet of used chips. That would do us yeah a defender would be great but I can’t see anyone realistically available and before anyone says Wilkie it ain’t happening

 

[Bonz]

Tell your people to tell the swans people to have a 1 Trac mind !

It's a player agent, not someone directly at the Swans