Rumour Bluemour Discussion XL - ‘Silly Season’ in full swing 😱

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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Thanks all!

 

[The Bighouse]

IMO.. The benefit of giving JUH a chance of a fresh start (has potential to be a top 10 player in the league) outweighs the risks.

Put clauses in his contract, around training and off field standards. Which give a club an out, if he fails to meet them.

If JUH is ready to turn his life around, he would have been a great (free) Curnow replacement.

Since “Fev” Carlton aren’t brave enough to back ourselves in. Hollands a prime example, would rather just get rid of him than do the hard yard and help him.

Good on the suns for potentially giving him a chance at redemption.

Think you need to remove his associates. A move to Carlton isn’t going to change behaviours (and you need to be beware of what’s underneath here - 2025 is a disgraceful character showing).

 

[The Bighouse]

I don't think the club will let Voss go down the short-term fix route...

Reckon they’re all aligned for the club’s direction.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

I don't think the club will let Voss go down the short-term fix route...

The club is the dog, the coaches are just tails, like the playing list.
I'm giving the coaches a clean slate in 2026, but if we can't perform to a consistent standard(not necessarily finalists) then we have a look around for better choices.
It's still too soon to judge, but I thought we might have attracted more interest from proven line coaches.

 

[Accidental genius]

The Swans don't sell papers or click bait; Geelong does and don't forget the manager is pushing the Geelong angle. I get the feeling Charlie would not be that keen on Sydney, nor would his future wife IMHO!

Yeah to me it’s looking like Charlie wants to go to Geelong…

 

[Lukeblueboy]

Yeah to me it’s looking like Charlie wants to go to Geelong…

I still think that when the whips get cracking, the lure of having a 2 x Coleman medalist in there team will make the teams offer some really strong deals for Charlie.(that we’ll be happy with)IMO

 

[BlueLocke]

Swap out Florent for Hayward in that bluemour and I’d do it. Probably need to send a pick back the Swans way though.

Adds, on average, 2 goals and 4 assists to the forward line per game, combined with some genuine pressure and the ability to run through the middle for periods.

 

[Revenant1995]

IMO.. The benefit of giving JUH a chance of a fresh start (has potential to be a top 10 player in the league) outweighs the risks.

Put clauses in his contract, around training and off field standards. Which give a club an out, if he fails to meet them.

If JUH is ready to turn his life around, he would have been a great (free) Curnow replacement.

Since “Fev” Carlton aren’t brave enough to back ourselves in. Hollands a prime example, would rather just get rid of him than do the hard yard and help him.

Good on the suns for potentially giving him a chance at redemption.

I don't think we'd have the resources to manage JUH, given he'd still be around the same associates. I think GC can afford to take the risk, apart from the list place he'd take from some young, developing player...

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Eh? It's not that deep.

We need a small forward who can contribute at AFL level, even if it's for a couple of years. Would rather that as steak knives than a 3rd rounder who will probably play less than half a dozen games.

Why? So we can finish 11th instead of 14th?

A "winning" cultcha Charlie Sheen would be proud of

 

[Ninja Worrier]

I think what we should be focused on first is securing a future first rounder without trading Charlie. Takes any bargaining power away from the buyers

 

[Blue__Balls]

If were going off Cal's list

WC - Duursma
GC - Uwland
Rich - Duff-Tytler
GC - Patterson
Brisbane - Annable
Rich - Robey
Ess - Taylor
Carl - Dean
Ess - Sharp
Stk - Schubert
Hawks - Lindsay

Our pick 9 would come in here, be 2 spots worse again with WC getting pick 2 compo and GC likely trading pick 6 for points

Still a lot to change though.

WC to get the second pick by way of Oscar Allen compo.

St Kilda seem set on sending Pick 7 (8 after the above compo) to GC for Flanders. Pick 7 for GC will be the one that moves up to match the Uwland bid, but a good chunk of Pick 8 will be needed as well so that will move back in the draft, probably into the second round.

Hawks are into Merrett, everything has gone quiet on that front but talk is that it'll heat up again after the Bombers B&F. They'd have to be using our old first rounder to start with, plus futures. If they miss him, do they make a play for Petracca and is he interested?

In terms of live picks, I think this is roughly what ends up unfolding:

Pick 1 - West Coast - Duursma?
Pick 2 - Gold Coast - Uwland - matching bid with 7 and 8
Pick 3 - West Coast (compo) - Duff-Tytler?
Pick 4 - Gold Coast - Patterson - matching bid with 13 and 16
Pick 5 - Brisbane - Annable - matching bid with 18 and 20 (via WC for Starcevich)
Pick 6 - Richmond - ???
Pick 7 - Richmond - ???
Pick 8 - Essendon - ???
Pick 9 - Essendon - ???
Pick 10 - Hawthorn - does this end up with Essendon or Melbourne?
Pick 11 - Carlton (compo) - ???

So the interesting questions will be :

- Do Richmond bid on Dean after already potentially having bid on Patterson and Annable? They might feel that's enough shenanigans, and don't actually stand to benefit by forcing anyone to pay overs given they don't have any picks after their first two.

- Do Essendon bid on Dean given they don't have an actual need for a KPD, and there may have been some discourse with the Blues around managing the Walker/Bewick situation?

- Who holds Pick 10 and what are their intentions?

 

[TENACIOUS]

If we could get involved and turn, Curnow + TDK Pick & maybe a contracted player/s, into:

Sydney > F1 (Walker)
WCE > pick 2 (Robey) & Chesser
Adelaide > Rachelle (Petracca deal)

Dean
Ison

Then it would be a good offseason.

 

[Blue__Balls]

We have not balanced our list. We are too top heavy on the inside and have limited outside run.
We can't keep bringing in inside midfielders who give us little run. We also have BC and Lord developing.
We need to be much smarter and more agile with our selections.
Replacing Hewett with Rowbottom does nothing for our overall team.

You forgot "synergistic" and "aligned". But that's OK, we can circle back later when we have more bandwidth.

 

[Accidental genius]

If Swans are offering 2 first rounders and Florent as per bluemour you take it and run!

florent would fit straight into our best 23.

2x first rounders plus whatever we get for Tdk/Jsos should be more than enough to secure F/Ss coming in this and next year.

If it’s genuine I hope we get the deal done sooner rather later so we can focus on other players/spots in areas of need.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Papley has already said no he’s not moving.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

Papley has already said no he’s not moving.

That could change if we can get the jet up there

 

[Accidental genius]

I still think that when the whips get cracking, the lure of having a 2 x Coleman medalist in there team will make the teams offer some really strong deals for Charlie.(that we’ll be happy with)IMO

Yeah more than likely. Let’s hope we get a good deal done for Charlie and our club.

 

[Juice030103]

I just don’t see Graham Wright accepting picks 9, future first and some fringe players like Florent, Rowbottom or Campbell for Charlie. I think that would be a horrible deal for us.

I look at it a little differently.

Bonuses from that trade would be

• improved depth
• picks for Walker sorted
• package TDK compo and swans first this year to move up the order for a pick before Dean

 

[branedotorg]

Each club will still take picks in the 2027 draft and although TAS will have a huge amount of picks, I still believe having an extra 1st helps us. We either trade it for talent or if we have a fs or zone kid coming to us, it will help immensely.

Of course it’s not ideal, but we can’t just assume another 1st won’t help us

agree, at the very least it could be something essendon need to match a bewick bid.

I think it's fair to say too that by the end of the 2027 trade period tassie won't be holding all those picks anymore

 

[MitchRobinson12]

2 firsts is a good starting point from the Swans, if they get Charlie though youd expect their F1 will be weaker so they have to find another first IMO. Adding in Campbell to that would get pretty close you'd think.

 

[Soapy V]

What do we really want to achieve during the trade period? Do we want to bring in a ‘star’? Or are we better placed bringing in more picks to get Dean and Ison done, trade in Khamis, Chesser and Reidy and another F1 for Cody in 2026? Getting picks and a ‘star’ will be challenging.

Especially considering Tassie will chew up picks in 2027 and 2028, perhaps the time is NOW (2025 and 2026) to hit the draft.

Won’t appease many, but it may be the better and more appropriate option for us longer term.

Consistent message I have been told is we are very happy with our youth and will add Dean Ison maybe Gresham, Clarke late or rookies. Then there is Walker and Jagga. We have more than enough “kids”

Focus is to build depth around this youth. Only way we may get more is if we can upgrade to top 3 pick for real quality and not affect Dean pick

As of weekend that was still the plan

Things change but unless a gun falls on our lap I believe this is what will happen.

 

[Red_man2008]

Swap out Florent for Hayward in that bluemour and I’d do it. Probably need to send a pick back the Swans way though.

Adds, on average, 2 goals and 4 assists to the forward line per game, combined with some genuine pressure and the ability to run through the middle for periods.

Whereas I’d skip on Papley and go florent and buff to no pick going back.

I’d then pick up DFA Ryan Burton (surely our new HOF knows what’s up with his injuries)

Reidy, Chesser and potentially another elite mid with our extra picks before throwing the rest at Cody’s bidding next year.

 

[branedotorg]

Consistent message I have been told is we are very happy with our youth and will add Dean Ison maybe Gresham, Clarke late or rookies. Then there is Walker and Jagga. We have more than enough “kids”

Focus is to build depth around this youth. Only way we may get more is if we can upgrade to top 3 pick for real quality and not affect Dean pick

As of weekend that was still the plan

Things change but unless a gun falls on our lap I believe this is what will happen.

for most of this century our teams have been made up of superstars and rookies, somewhat ignoring that a higher floor is better than a higher ceiling.

if nothing else it's a strategic change that's worth exploring

 

[Its an amigo!]

Papley has already said no he’s not moving.

Regarding the bluemour post, if true that Carlton are asking Swans to include Papley, there must be some indication that Papley is prepared to move.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

I just don’t see Graham Wright accepting picks 9, future first and some fringe players like Florent, Rowbottom or Campbell for Charlie. I think that would be a horrible deal for us.

GC interested in Rowbottom according to Twomey. Might give Sydney another pick?

 

[Bfevola]

Anyone see the interview with Ryan Burton

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Ryan Burton

Age

28

Ht

191cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

277.3

4star

D

16.8

4star

K

12.3

5star

HB

4.5

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

277.3

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.2

4star

from Port Adelaide. Ex actually.

He was reaching out to clubs. Mentioned his mgr reached out to Carlton, but he himself hadnt spoken to Michael Voss.

He has a lot of respect for Chris Davies who he feels was very honest with him when he got delisted.