Rumour Bluemour Discussion XL - ‘Silly Season’ in full swing 😱

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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Thanks all!

 

[Blue and Silver]

Where did the Rachele talk come from?

People spitballing where an A grader might come from.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

IMO.. The benefit of giving JUH a chance of a fresh start (has potential to be a top 10 player in the league) outweighs the risks.

Put clauses in his contract, around training and off field standards. Which give a club an out, if he fails to meet them.

If JUH is ready to turn his life around, he would have been a great (free) Curnow replacement.

Since “Fev” Carlton aren’t brave enough to back ourselves in. Hollands a prime example, would rather just get rid of him than do the hard yard and help him.

Good on the suns for potentially giving him a chance at redemption.

If he was ready to turn his life around, he wouldnt have got kicked out of the country GF that he got kicked out of two weeks ago. He's taking the piss.

 

[ferrisb]

You watch yourself young fella, no need for that kind of levity in here.

Young fella? Me?

Oh, bless your cotton socks...

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

They could just ask him

That's not how it works these days apparently...they need to slide into his DMs late one night and see if he's DTF.

Which I'm reliably informed is 'down to football'.

 

[Sam The Doc]

Where did the Rachele talk come from?

Literally my last 2 minutes trying to find anything on it..

 

[ferrisb]

Family dynasties do come to an end

The first generation starts the dynasty

The second generations builds the dynasty

The third generation fritters it all away

 

[Blue and Silver]

The first generation starts the dynasty

The second generations builds the dynasty

The third generation fritters it all away

Check out how many of Britain's richest people are direct descendants of the Normans

 

[TENACIOUS]

If Sydney and us can’t get involved in the:

• Melbourne & Adelaide (Petracca) trade to prise out Rachelle and/or
• West Coast pick 2

I’d be requesting Sydney’s 2025 First, F1 and McInerney.

Florent as steak knives or a separate trade.

 

[ctwenty1]

IMO we tell Sydney it’s not just their 2025 and 2026 1sts, it’s also their 2027 1st. We would need to send them a few 3rds or even a 2nd, but to set ourselves up really well (especially to guarantee we get Cody) and allow flexibility to trade for pieces we need across the next couple of years, I think all 3 of the 1sts is a huge part of the deal.

There is a reason 2 seasons of future trading has been brought in and we may as well take full advantage of it.

more than happy to have as many future firsts as possible, especially if we arent happy with some of the players they are offering

Im also keen to judge the trade on whatever else we do with what we get for Charlie (if we do trade him)

We may be underwhelmed by what we get from any trade but if we can turn what we receive into something else then Id be happy with that

 

[ctwenty1]

Check out how many of Britain's richest people are direct descendants of the Normans

But that reflects a centuries old system built around embedding and protecting that wealth

America I think is a better comparator - simple studies of surnames indicates just how transferable wealth is

 

[Red_man2008]

MY subjective opinion/vibe/feel is -

1. That old adage, 'a bad workman blames his tools' is alive and well at our club.

You could substitute, bad coaches blame their players.

2. Sour grapism is alive and well.
Player x, y or z are leaving. Therefore player x, y or z are shithouse/sook/never get on the park/ will never recover their injury proneness etc. Etc, et- cetera....

3. Shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic.

Shuffle out assistant coach/player hacks and shuffle in top-up with new hacks.

4. Consistently behind the pack in innovation, clever picks, attracting quality, and coaching plan.
Self evident.
If we were a club getting things right on field, and had a program that meant players could flourish, and want to play for each other...not afraid of failing --encouraged to dare...

We do not. We have self-preservation and blaming players. We and Essendon and Melbourne have all failed to transition.

We are a snobby, foolish club with selfish, rich gits fighting for control, locked in the past - apologists - and elitists.
Management blames workers so their own jobs are safe.
Workers ( players) are not listened to. They are labelled as impertinent and sacked or encouraged to move on.
Those that want to move on, have valuable intel that may be the key to our club turning things around.

But are we listening?

Who are we?

I get that I'm in a small minority and that's ok.

I'll keep a little light of hope under a bell jar for 2026.

Am I in despair and envious of those teams that get it right?

Yep.

If we have an atmosphere and program that breeds selfishness instead of team spirit,
Then that is on US.

I think we’ve tried your way before. Many times. Sack the coach. The players control the decision and choose when to play and when to not play. Sounds very familiar.

It’s time to try this different approach. Keep the coach. Build back up and get rid of the players that are pick and choose when they perform or aren’t prepared to put in the work.

So in saying that I totally disagree with your statement.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Riley Beveridge on Gettable:

Carlton out of Flanders race

Positive early talks on Chesser, Reidy. Probably future picks

GC pivoted to JUH and Trac as focus

Has he picked which Gold Coast based outlaw motorcycle club he wants to align with yet?

 

[Manhattanite]

Florent has talent and is a solid role player. Cant judge this year, even their stars had shockers.
2x1sts + Florent + another role player would be enough.

We get the extra first for Cody next year, and we end up with 10, 11 and 20 this year after compo.
Wonder if 10, 11, 20 + Gov could net us pick 2, 22 and Chesser.
Gets us ahead of a Dean bid.

I think it would be cleaner to have the Swans trade their two first rounders plus McDonald to the Eagles for Pick 2 and they send us that Pick 2 plus Florent.

 

[Bluebag13]

If Sydney and us can’t get involved in the:

• Melbourne & Adelaide (Petracca) trade to prise out Rachelle and/or
• West Coast pick 2

I’d be requesting Sydney’s 2025 First, F1 and McInerney.

Florent as steak knives or a separate trade.

give me hayward as well. We need more dynamism in our forwardline

 

[GoBlues!]

Each club will still take picks in the 2027 draft and although TAS will have a huge amount of picks, I still believe having an extra 1st helps us. We either trade it for talent or if we have a fs or zone kid coming to us, it will help immensely.

Of course it’s not ideal, but we can’t just assume another 1st won’t help us

Also Devils must also use some of their 2027 R1 picks for established players.

If they come chasing a Carlton player and cough up a R1, we could end up 3 R1s.

 

[RPCB]

Where did the Rachele talk come from?

The Internet.

 

[Red_man2008]

Charlie probably hasn’t nominated a preferred club because he’s resigned to it not being Geelong.

How does he run his business in Geelong while living in Sydney.

 

[DrTrain]

How does he run his business in Geelong while living in Sydney.

Do you actually think Charlie does work?

 

[yibbida]

Also Devils must also use some of their 2027 R1 picks for established players.

If they come chasing a Carlton player and cough up a R1, we could end up 3 R1s

how is the surf in Tasmania?

 

[ctwenty1]

How does he run his business in Geelong while living in Sydney.

rely on his co -investors

also Id expect he would be travelling regularly...

 

[marcmurphy3]

How does he run his business in Geelong while living in Sydney.

It's an investment. I highly doubt he has much to do with day to day operations. He'd have a manager, plus other investors.

 

[Blues of 77]

If Petracca gets to the Suns, Humphrey may be available in a Curnow deal. Straight swap suggested only. From a close business connection to GC. In response to a suggestion that we'd need more (like Walter), comment was that Walter may also be available for trade if Curnow went across (surplus forwards) but would require serious currency from us to get it done.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Given papley doesn’t want to move, perhaps 2 x 1sts + florent + dattoli? (Imo a better option that papley)

I'd be taking that in a heartbeat, and it's potentially achievable from both sides.

Over on the Swans board, there's a prominent poster who gets some pretty good info. Says that Charlie's management have contacted a number of Swans players about potentially being involved in a trade to Carlton. The issue we have is that these players have to agree to be traded, so we actually need to offer them something attractive.

Florent seems to be on the outer under Cox, so we can offer more game time. Could be a bit of a salary dump for them, so couldn't see them disagreeing. Dattoli signed a contract extension for another year back in May - we could potentially offer him an additional year and more $$ as a lure. He's also a local boy from Ivanhoe which could work in our favour. Whether the Swans are willing to trade him is another matter.

IMO we need to bring in talented youth, not a 30yo Papley for a short term sugar hit.

I also prefer to look at the collective at the end of the trade/draft period. A trade like that means that in 2026, we'll be bringing in the youth of Jagga, Dattoli, Dean and Ison - and you could even throw a 22yo Chesser into that lot. And the additional future 1st of course gives us currency for Cody next year.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

If Petracca gets to the Suns, Humphrey may be available in a Curnow deal. Straight swap suggested only. From a close business connection to GC. In response to a suggestion that we'd need more (like Walter), comment was that Walter may also be available for trade if Curnow went across (surplus forwards) but would require serious currency from us to get it done.

Been reported Suns can’t get Petracca AND Curnow.

 

[Red Bull]

Flanders
Florent

Dodged one bullet
Need to dodge the other

As much as Sydney want to dump Florent, we don’t need any part of him and his 4 year contract in a Curnow trade.

Sydney’s 1st and F1st likely included in the trade along with some sort of Dattoli Hayward Campbell combo …