Rumour Bluemour Discussion XL - ‘Silly Season’ in full swing 😱

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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Thanks all!

 

[Lukeblueboy]

EB is usually pretty spot on, so for him having said NO, I’d be hesitant in getting excited.

Until wick has said no.
I will live in hope!

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Valid points but Humphrey has done nothing and is all potential. Hill is a proven and reliable A grade small forward who is 26 next year he is worth a first round draft pick in a trade

Harley Reid is all potential too, still got offers of 20 million over 11 years.

 

[Wickzki]

Until wick has said no.
I will live in hope!

I haven't heard anything since nor anything at all from our side.

EB was spot on with his intel the first time and I have no reason to not believe him now.

The club (I believe GW) was in his ear previously.

As for this media report... Collingwood don't have enough to satisfy them. I would imagine Melbourne are a genuine threat.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

EB is usually pretty spot on, so for him having said NO, I’d be hesitant in getting excited.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Humphrey Walter and F1 sounds good to me.

Won’t get that, but add TDK compo to Charlie and we might. And I would absolutely do that in a heartbeat
GC could use the TDK compo to get in Petracca to take Humphrey’s spot and they keep their other firsts for Academy

 

[DangerousD]

Valid points but Humphrey has done nothing and is all potential. Hill is a proven and reliable A grade small forward who is 26 next year he is worth a first round draft pick in a trade

A grade is a stretch

Hill averages 1.15 goals per game across his career and 9.75 touches.

This year Humphrey averaged over 15 touches and just over 1 goal a game

 

[carlton_99]

I haven't heard anything since nor anything at all from our side.

EB was spot on with his intel the first time and I have no reason to not believe him now.

The club (I believe GW) was in his ear previously.

As for this media report... Collingwood don't have enough to satisfy them. I would imagine Melbourne are a genuine threat.

So do you think he rejected our advances specifically or Suns just wouldn't even entertain it?

 

[DangerousD]

If Melbourne lose Trac and Oliver. They are looking at bottom 4 finish next year

They finished bottom 5 with them, may as well get new talent in

 

[Dominator_7]

Ok, breath and say it to yourself
You will not get your hopes up this time.
You will not get your hopes up this time.
You will not get your hopes up this time.

 

[Opium]

I think the issue is clubs know that we need Charlie gone in order to get Cody next year. Swans won't give up more than they need to get the deal done

 

[Wickzki]

So do you think he rejected our advances or Suns just wouldn't even entertain it?

I believe it's the latter rather than the former but I don't have that info.

Honestly, I think our chances of getting Humphrey were contingent on a Charlie trade to GC and it's clear they've prioritized a different direction.

 

[carlton_99]

I believe it's the latter rather than the former but I don't have that info.

Honestly, I think our chances of getting Humphrey were contingent on a Charlie trade to GC and it's clear they've prioritized a different direction.

Yeh that makes sense

 

[Wickzki]

I think the issue is clubs know that we need Charlie gone in order to get Cody next year. Swans won't give up more than they need to get the deal done

We don't have to trade Charlie this year for that to happen.

 

[Coops93]

Clarko pushed him out because he thought he was soft. Fell out of favour at Port for the same reason. Pass.

Wingard requesting a trade was what ended his time with Hawthorn

 

[DangerousD]

Could of said the exact same thing when gws got hogan

Not really, Hogan had already shown he was a gun, was homesick, his dad died, he got cancer and he went off the rails.

That’s not the same as what’s happening with JUH

 

[DangerousD]

Why are people saying JUH will be cheap? He has a big contract

 

[GT619]

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

If he was out of contract but he has a pretty hefty 4 year deal, so 40-50 is pretty close.

Is it true that that whoever draft's a player like this has to honour his existing contract, or is it voided and the new club sets conditions that are suitable?

 

[teagueyubeauty]

I think the issue is clubs know that we need Charlie gone in order to get Cody next year. Swans won't give up more than they need to get the deal done

I don’t reckon we do, we trade out second and third round next year and our next pick is 2027 first round so you go into deficit.
There will be ways around the AFLs rules you can bet your house on it

 

[Crippa#9]

We don't have to trade Charlie this year for that to happen.

Correct. We’ll also use our 2027 first round pick to trade into the first round in 2026 if need be.

 

[Tazblue]

I would be banking future first round picks IF we can't land any significant A graders this year. Do the deal I mentioned to cover Walker and use those banked picks to go for a high level point of difference player or two next year. I think we still need to be all about our next uprising being 2027, there's a couple of years work to do for us.

Keep our 2026 1st, get Sydney's F1st and another F1st Sydney have to get. Next year trade our future 1st (2027) and current 2nd for another sides first. Go for Sydney's future 2nd as well.

Gives us 4 first round picks in 2026.

Use a salary dump player or two for next year to cover salary hole left by departing players. Open the cap space right up at the end of 2026 with the departures of Curnow, DeKoning, Silvagni, McGovern, Fantasia, Docherty, Hollands etc. this year and the departures of Saad, Durdin, Boyd, Acres, Binns, Fogarty maybe Haynes and Newman end of next year.

Take Walker with one or two of those 1st. If Sydney bomb it may be just one. Take Butters as a FA. Use the other 2 or 3 first rounders to fill other needs.

Plenty of situations where we come away really strong from losing Curnow and trading strategically. A lot to play out, it all has to be doable and agreed upon.

I think the timing is probably right to let Curnow go and the club probably know that and he can be used to fix a lot of what is wrong with the list. I think if it's not done this year then the ship has sailed.

For what it's worth I feel comfortable with first round picks attached to Sydney. Happy not to have to go to the draft this year and wait to get high end senior talent next year. Get the feeling the Swans had their crack at it last year and have crashed, could be mini-rebuild time for them like it is for us and perhaps Horse realised that and the current coach hasn't.

Like everyone feeling sad when we’re about to get a first Round pick in Dean

 

[Doro]

You'd think that Trac potentially takes Humphreys spot at GC as they are similar types. He's well worth it Humphrey if gettable, particularly If Charlie gets to Sydney.

 

[DangerousD]

Is it true that that whoever draft's a player like this has to honour his existing contract, or is it voided and the new club sets conditions that are suitable?

he has a contract and he’s entitled to that money, if they trade him, they are on the hook for that amount or whatever they negotiate with the new buyer.

If he wanted to leave and others didn’t wants him due to his contract, he can renegotiate any deal he wants.

Reference Bowes to Geelong and why GC gave a crazy pick to the Cats

Reference Grundy to Melb for stuff all

Treloar to the Dogs for not much

The Demons offering to pay over half of Oliver’s salary to get buyers interested

 

[Wickzki]

Wingard requesting a trade was what ended his time with Hawthorn

There wasn't much push back from Hawthorn at the request despite his popularity among Hawks supporters.

 

[Wickzki]

Dimma believes in his ego.

I think their players feel a bit differently.

I was asked to expand on this privately so I'll do so here.

I think Dimma is leaning on his history of working with players who came with issues. People point to examples like Dusty, Brandon Ellis, among others.

For me, there’s a big difference between those guys and JUH. Dusty and Ellis might have had their problems, but they were competitive beasts. They were self-motivated. Dimma gave them the space to be themselves, and in return they gave everything when it mattered most.

JUH has shown the opposite so far in his career. He’s always been the most talented in his age group and has been able to coast on that. Turning it around would be a complete shift for him.

I believe that once you get to this level you are either self-motivated or you’re not.