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I would imagine the agent of these players have a big say in where these bids land.
Top agents will have signed up these kids and would be warning the likes of west coast and Richmond not to put their futures at their aligned academy clubs in jeopardy by getting smart at the draft and bidding too soon.
Particularly this year where there’s some (very slight) chance the clubs (GC & Bris) won’t have the points to match.
Mark my words - Uwland, Annable and Patterson will not be bid on before picks 4-9. Probably later to be honest.
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We will be. McVee is way better than you think and is class with ball in hands. Many non Freo or Melbourne fans think he is worth a late first.
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I agree he is a class act, has shown a pretty high ceiling and would be worth a late first. Unfortunately for Melbourne there is a recency bias in trades and McVee's value drops because 2025 did not go well. So his value is somewhere between top 10 in the Melbourne BnF and a player who plays half a season and doesn't reach his best form. I think our 2nd and change gets it across the line.
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His form this year was still very good he just played in a negating role and his form was effected by being injured for most of the preseason. I think 'tell them their dreaming' will be the response t just a second'. Not a ton more but either a future pick or one of the thirds this year highly likely to be part of the trade. Most supporters from rival clubs not Melbourne seem to think he's worth a late 1st rounder.
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Rather than first round or second round with the draft so compromised and so many compensation picks being handed out I prefer a draft pick number (ie range). My range of around 25-30 reflects early (close to start of second round). If we had pick 27/28 like Adelaide had for Neale-Bullen then that would prob get the deal done but we don’t so as you say we need to sweeten it. A straight out F3 or swap of picks should get the deal done with 34.
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Theres a difference between what a player is worth, and what you can get for them.
On talent hes absolutely worth quite a bit more than our second. But McVee being out of contract and WC having pick 1 in PSD means Dees have to accept what we offer or they get nothing.
If that happened we lose nothing - we are still a top 8 team and have our second rounder. Dees would lose a b22 player for zero return, which is especially dire in a rebuild.
The risk for them playing hardball is greater, which means the leverage is ours. Shoe on other foot from Langdon trade. Dees fans wont be quite as smug this time around im sure.
Theres no world it even approaches our first round pick. Pick 29 (or whatever it ends up as) and a pick swap of some sort should tick this off comfortably imo
On talent hes absolutely worth quite a bit more than our second. But McVee being out of contract and WC having pick 1 in PSD means Dees have to accept what we offer or they get nothing.
If that happened we lose nothing - we are still a top 8 team and have our second rounder. Dees would lose a b22 player for zero return, which is especially dire in a rebuild.
The risk for them playing hardball is greater, which means the leverage is ours. Shoe on other foot from Langdon trade. Dees fans wont be quite as smug this time around im sure.
Theres no world it even approaches our first round pick. Pick 29 (or whatever it ends up as) and a pick swap of some sort should tick this off comfortably imo
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I'm really high on our list going into 2026. We re-signed Neil. We're not losing any best 22 players to other clubs. Probably gaining one. We don't have to gift our departing legend Fyfe any more games. Our Rising Star winner will have a full pre-season to attain beast mode, along with Dudley who will come back svelte and ripped having dumped the keg for a six-pack. Let's Fing Go.
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Nek Minute he has a farm in Geelong
Think the difference isn't as big as a lot of people think though tbh.
If he's actually worth a pick in the early 20s and was in contract Melbourne just tell us to get ****ed if we don't offer the equivalent or more.
In a lot of cases trades for out of contract players end up very similar to the player's actual value.
FWIW though Langdon was traded for a pick swap in the early 20s and a future second of a club that finished 17th (but were expected to improve).
Offering less than our second rounder will see Melbourne walk away early next week until we make a serious offer later in trade period because we actually value the improvement Judd McVee will make to our list.
Tbf though there isn't many on here that think we should be offering less. It'll be our starting point and we'll give slightly more.
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I tell ya what, Richmond are in a great spot here.
Loaded up last year.
I’d be on the phone with Port right, now, “3 and 4 how about it?”
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Who suggested offering less than our second rounder?
Pretty sure Port Adelaide will stay firm this year.
Reckon he's pretty much good as gone next year. Might see a free agency offer matched next year unless Port are bottom six next year.
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Yeah, maybe. But who is getting picks 3 and 4 or even 5 and 6 from Essendon?
Not you I'm pretty sure but there's been a few posters over the last week or so.
Don't think this is a case of offering pick 35 or whatever it ends up being after the FA compensation picks and simply saying take or leave it.
We might be in the position to take certain assets off the table though (i.e. first round picks).
Melbourne tried to take their second rounder off the table in Langdon negotiations. We wanted that that pick and they wanted to give us a future second. This might start somewhere similar.
I want to keep our first rounders and next year's second rounder. Any other combination of picks within reason (up to the value of an early 20s pick) I'm happy to give up for McVee.
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Which is why Richmond should be on the phone now.
If Butters is OK with Richmond, Port will never get a better deal than one of #3 or #4 this year
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If I’m Essendon. 5 and 6. I’d even look at adding a future second, or take 6 out and add a future first.
Trade Zach Merret now
Trade Zach Merret now
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One of? You jest. It’s taking both plus a bit
If Richmond is his club of choice they're getting more than one of those for him next year if they match the free agency bid.
If they got both though... Don't reckon they'll consider it this year but they should.
They'll get unders for Butters next year even if they match - Yes, a top three pick and later picks is still unders for one of the best players in the league.
