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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025
In:
  • Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
  • Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
  • Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane
Out:
  • Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
  • Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
  • Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
  • Jayden Hunt announces retirement
  • Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
  • Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)
  • Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR
 
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West Coast offered their second round pick.

West Coast made their offer first. We the put in a counter offer.
Which is fine but the Eagles would be mad to give up a first round pick for Starc.

That’s what’s holding the deal up. Not the other stuff you wrote over a few paragraphs.

Lions can only stall the Allen FA submission for so long. They really are two separate issues and we will see that towards the end of the week, the Eagles really don’t need to do anything at this point, they will trade for Starc when happy with the deal.
 
No idea.

Why didn’t West Coast offer the compensation pick in the initial negotiations?

It should be an easy trade.

But both clubs are posturing for what ever reason.
complete bias, I think it’s Brisbane trying to be greasy and take advantage of Clarke the absolute flop and get 16 thinking he’ll cave. Given Clarke’s track record, and how obnoxious Dom sounded with Twomey yesterday, it’s definitely posturing coming from one side. Offering a 2nd rounder is reasonable considering the medical concerns, there’s not really much reason to ask for 16 except to be slimy imo.
 
If Allen’s compo is band 2 then what’s stopping us from saying “we are only going to offer a pick in the 50s for Starcevich, it’s take it or we walk him to the PSD”?
We get Starcevich for free and still have pick 1, Haw R1, Allen compo and the PP before the second round. We don’t get pick 2 but can easily move inside top 10 using some of these picks. This doesn’t sound too bad but obviously getting pick 2 for Allen is better.
 

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Brisbane’s concern is if we lodge the Allen paperwork first, West Coast can the turn around, wait for the compensation to be granted, then say, “we are only going to offer pick 37 for Starcevich, it’s take it or we walk him to the PSD”.
Situation can be reversed. We are worried that if we cough up the pick you want you will lodge band 2 compensation after receiving it. Although as other's have said these things by the letter of the law should not be intrinsically linked.
 
No idea.

Why didn’t West Coast offer the compensation pick in the initial negotiations?

It should be an easy trade.

But both clubs are posturing for what ever reason.

One club is chasing a couple of hundred more points.

The other club is desperately trying to improve its list and draft hand.

Lions are acting like entitled brats. And everyone knows it.

Stupid thing is Brisbane can hold out and be dcks all they like. If they really piss off the Eagles they bid early and the Lions lose due to being smart arses.

And give the Eagles reason to bid early this year and next.

It's a strange stand off. Very strange.
 
Cal sort of saying he wasn’t sure the Eagles would do 1 + 23 for 4 + 5.

Said the move up would be for Duursma who has put a gap between him and the rest. Why would they be after Richmond’s pick 3 then? Duursma too 2 at worst? If they get it dies Will then change his tune to a flight risk.

Picks 2,5,6,7

1- Duursma (ESS)
2- CDT (WC)
3- Robey (Rich)
4- X Taylor (Rich)
5- Sharp (WC)
6- Grlj/Farrow/Lindsay (WC)
7- Cumming/Schubert (WC)
No CDT please. Crazy pick.

Imagine CDT being our top pick. How deflating. Consigns us to the bottom for a long time.
 
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Guys, it's all posturing and opening positions.

Brisbane would accept the compo pick or our second rounder, they know we want to give the Hawks second, so they say they want 16, in the hope that we drop and offer what they want, and they move up from 16.
 
Cal sort of saying he wasn’t sure the Eagles would do 1 + 23 for 4 + 5.

Said the move up would be for Duursma who has put a gap between him and the rest. Why would they be after Richmond’s pick 3 then? Duursma too 2 at worst? If they get it dies Will then change his tune to a flight risk.

Picks 2,5,6,7

1- Duursma (ESS)
2- CDT (WC)
3- Robey (Rich)
4- X Taylor (Rich)
5- Sharp (WC)
6- Grlj/Farrow/Lindsay (WC)
7- Cumming/Schubert (WC)
We lack A grade talent on our list, Pick 1 we have to keep for mine. Duursma needs to be on our list.

Pick 2 on the other hand is up for sale, happy to deal with the Bombers for CDT pick.
 
We lack A grade talent on our list, Pick 1 we have to keep for mine. Duursma needs to be on our list.

Pick 2 on the other hand is up for sale, happy to deal with the Bombers for CDT pick.
I think Duursma is great and will end up an A grader, but I’m in no rush for us to be gunning for finals with an undercooked list. Build the talent and wait. I say we trade it. Trade into a TAS mini draft and pick up Walsh. Gun for BVR next year. CDT is not needed even slightly, and we need to improve the engine room before the outside so Duursma is BPA but not the best fit
 
No idea.

Why didn’t West Coast offer the compensation pick in the initial negotiations?

It should be an easy trade.

But both clubs are posturing for what ever reason.
Trade negotiations are fine. But if Brisbane are using the FA compensation for Allen as a bargaining chip for a separate trade, that's really scummy.

If you're ok with your club being scummy, I guess that's up to you.
 
I think Duursma is great and will end up an A grader, but I’m in no rush for us to be gunning for finals with an undercooked list. Build the talent and wait. I say we trade it. Trade into a TAS mini draft and pick up Walsh. Gun for BVR next year. CDT is not needed even slightly, and we need to improve the engine room before the outside so Duursma is BPA but not the best fit
Draft for A Graders and trade for list holes.
 

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If Allen only nets Band 2 compensation after the entire industry has basically taken it as fait accompli for weeks that it will be band 1 (pick 2), there’ll be some massive fallout.
I know there's more to it than salary but Silvagni's contract was more that the rumoured Allen contract and he was only band 2.
 
No idea.

Why didn’t West Coast offer the compensation pick in the initial negotiations?

It should be an easy trade.

But both clubs are posturing for what ever reason.

Clarke said yesterday pick 23 is around the mark and Twomey has said 23 has been "tabled"

Indicates to me its been offered. Why are you saying it hasn't?
 

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No idea.

Why didn’t West Coast offer the compensation pick in the initial negotiations?

It should be an easy trade.

But both clubs are posturing for what ever reason.
It's not compulsory to trade it, and we have the pick immediately after it. Also we need to do what it takes to improve our position more than Brisbane do. You get that right?
 
I know there's more to it than salary but Silvagni's contract was more that the rumoured Allen contract and he was only band 2.
100% that when we finally have a FA compo it has to be to stingey Brisbane and we have other issues muddy the waters
 
Correct me if I’m wrong briztoon but trying to force a trade diluting your points pool is surely net loss for Brisbane if this goes pear shaped
We aren’t forcing a trade.

West Coast “need” to trade for Starcevich so as not to dilute the Oscar Allen compensation.

Brisbane are using this situation to our advantage to increase our points pool this draft (and in next year’s draft).

West Coast made their first offer, and we made a counter offer.

Neither club is being a d!ck, both clubs are trying to get the best deal for their club.

One theory on our board is that West Coast’s list manager asked us to start at pick 16, so that when we settle on the compo pick, West Coast fans feel like they got a “win” over the Lions.
 
One theory on our board is that West Coast’s list manager asked us to start at pick 16, so that when we settle on the compo pick, West Coast fans feel like they got a “win” over the Lions.

That would imply that West Coast give a shit what their fans feel like.
 
With Reidy now finding his way to Carlton, I’m once again thumping the table for Pittonet to make his way to WCE as a cheap stop gap. Can guarantee you best 22 footy the rest of the way, bridges the gap until Reid or whoever else is ready.

Would be getting in his ear given he’s been trapped behind TDK and as soon as the air clears up again they go and trade for a younger ruck.
 
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