List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part IV

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 4

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[Stan_Darsh72]

wtf!

I feel like every second year we get randomly linked to De Goey

 

[Hayes4PM]

Freo just doing a shit 3 way trade to help out .... let me check my notes... the WEagles??? Why the **** would they do that?

 

[DT_35]

Jack hanging out with a lot of the scum players…..and Hugo.

Carlton perhaps interested in Steele?

 

[bird_man]

Freo just doing a shit 3 way trade to help out .... let me check my notes... the WEagles??? Why the **** would they do that?

Makes sense for Freo. Pick 12 is gonna end up a fair way back in a fairly even draft. Might as well turn that into two decent picks I guess.

 

[TheJackal]

Calculating Cal Two-bats is of the opinion that the Marshall deal will go through. So that means we need another serious half-decent ruck option

Its exactly why I really hope SDK can come to us, the ruck security he'd provide if both Tom and Dodson go down would be invaluable. I love Keels but he's a bit part ruck at best.

 

[Off Stump 89]

One only assume the way this off-season is going Nick and Jordan will both nominate the Saints whether the clubs likes it or not. Thanks but no thanks lads, should have got in earlier

 

[Hayes4PM]

Makes sense for Freo. Pick 12 is gonna end up a fair way back in a fairly even draft. Might as well turn that into two decent picks I guess.

Downgraded their 1st round pick to the last pick of the 1st round but bumped up 2 later picks... Dunno if that's worth it in an ordinary draft. Surely you take the punt on there maybe being someone in the first round you rate and then trade out all your later picks for players or future picks..?

 

[bird_man]

Downgraded their 1st round pick to the last pick of the 1st round but bumped up 2 later picks... Dunno if that's worth it in an ordinary draft. Surely you take the punt on there maybe being someone in the first round you rate and then trade out all your later picks for players or future picks..?

They moved from 33 to 23 though, that's a decent jump that high in the draft.

And it looks like they are going to use 23 on Judd McVee, which I think is good value.

I presume that was the reasoning behind it. Their pick in the 30's didn't seem like enough and 12 was probably too high.

 

[Hayes4PM]

They moved from 33 to 23 though, that's a decent jump that high in the draft.

And it looks like they are going to use 23 on Judd McVee, which I think is good value.

I presume that was the reasoning behind it. Their pick in the 30's didn't seem like enough and 12 was probably too high.

23 for Judd McVee is probably a decent outcome. Will blow out to pick 30 or so, and he looked pretty good last year.

 

[TheJackal]

They moved from 33 to 23 though, that's a decent jump that high in the draft.

And it looks like they are going to use 23 on Judd McVee, which I think is good value.

I presume that was the reasoning behind it. Their pick in the 30's didn't seem like enough and 12 was probably too high.

Uncontracted McVee worth 23 but pick 18 is in the same conversation as a contracted Marshall.

Geelong can gagf

 

[inntheno]

Well of course, there is the other “Brett Voss

Brett Voss

Age

47

Ht

181cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.7

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

6.2

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

0.8

3star

” scenario…

 

[littlecreatures]

Lol especially the last 30 seconds.

'Who are you?'

'Well see you later in the week Gubb'

'No you won't'

Leaves cackling.

Never been in safer hands lads.

The trade week pressa will go down in Saints folklore get Gubby out more often I reckon

 

[Palantine]

On Boyd - I think there were plenty that liked his physicality and attack around the ball. It really wasn’t until after Round 1 that people turned on him. I know I did from training attendance, albeit I didn’t particularly see much match practice post-Xmas.

And Hall was such a low key acquisition with a non-descript end to ‘24 that he wouldn’t have been in many people’s 23, even up until Round 1.

Hall was starting to get noticed post Christmas in training, and I even posted in an early report he reminded me of Daniel Kerr zipping about, and others were noticing too before me, but you’re right for general supporters he was pretty much unknown until the season went on. Incredible story

 

[stavro#4]

 

[westernsainter]

23 for Judd McVee is probably a decent outcome. Will blow out to pick 30 or so, and he looked pretty good last year.

23 for McVee is an absolute steal for the Dockers

 

[Verdun]

Would love it to be next year just to track the fortunes (hopefully mis fortunes) of the Cats

 

[TheJackal]

Can't always have it our own way, but I'm getting a pretty bad feeling about this Marshall trade.

 

[SaintyMcSaintface]

Can't always have it our own way, but I'm getting a pretty bad feeling about this Marshall trade.

At worst, sounds like we get this year's first

 

[bird_man]

23 for McVee is an absolute steal for the Dockers

I agree, I thought they were a chance to give up 13 for considering the draft.

They have done very well.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

My theory is that we are playing silly buggers and pretending we have a heap of cash to splash on DeGoey and the likes in the hope we bluff the cats

Yep, this thought came to my head. With these things, it’s always coming out for a reason, whether real or not.

 

[SainterinSydney]

At worst, sounds like we get this year's first

Kane Cornes said we should be getting a second lol

 

[Armoooo]

I agree, I thought they were a chance to give up 13 for considering the draft.

They have done very well.

Yep, nice piece of work for Freo.

Their first for McVee would have been a good deal. but to be able to hang on to a late first rounder AND help West Coast shoot themselves in the foot by wasting trade capital on a bloke that is one head knock away from retirement is next level.

I feel like they have the best placed list to compete with Brisbane, but it seems maybe the coach is the weak link?

 

[_Maximus_12]

Kane Cornes said we should be getting a second lol

Honestly don’t think he’s too far wrong. Ro will be 30 next year and his body and form has been below his best the last 12 months. If we were offering a first for ruckman with a similar profile I’d be flat. The fact we’re potentially getting a first is great for us.

 

[SaintBenny]

"You're TDK!"
"Yes,"
"You play Ruck.
"Yes,"
"I play Ruck too."
"So?"
"Well, are you better than me?"
"Well, I've never met you, but... yes"

 

[Tommy Wigs]

It's also been under the radar, this is at least 4 years in the planning (NWM may have brought it forward a year).

There's a shock factor to this in that it hasn't been done before and no "reporter" saw it coming.

The lack of financial acumen from the football media at this time of year is astounding, but they can get away with almost anything because of the hidden nature of football contracts. Most 'reporting' is parroting sources, no investigative journalism is occurring.

It may or may not turn out, but it's a bold strategy and needs to be admired (once understood).

It’s utterly amazing to me that - even with the financials becoming huge news this year - these muppets still haven’t gone and educated themselves on how it works. It’s extraordinary when you get paid in this space.