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Alright, sorry for clogging up the thread, I'm just dumbfounded people dont see the issue or dont think its worth caring about if the club gives up a 2nd round pick for nothing. However, I've taken names, if any of you who think it's irrelevant dare to complain about Academies and teams getting players for free, then you'll be getting as many bin-reacts as I can muster

I'll go touch grass
I don't necessarily disagree with you but I also am not going to get myself worked up about it until the WHOLE trade is FULLY confirmed
 
Nothing is separate though. These things don’t occur in a vacuum.

Maybe west coast were making moves on McVee behind the scenes, and leaned on Freo, so Walls had to go.

Maybe there were no other good opportunities to generate a pick 20s for McVee, so walls went with what he had. Walls isn’t a campaigner who brinksmanships the 33.

The trade for me highlights how much the club rates McVee and doesn’t rate the draft.

That said, I appreciate what you are saying and remain hopeful a F3 is missing.

Judd nominated Freo though

He was always going to Freo. It just depended at what price which Freo were prepared to pay.
 

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Nothing is separate though. These things don’t occur in a vacuum.

Maybe west coast were making moves on McVee behind the scenes, and leaned on Freo, so Walls had to go.

Maybe there were no other good opportunities to generate a pick 20s for McVee, so walls went with what he had. Walls isn’t a campaigner who brinksmanships the 33.

The trade for me highlights how much the club rates McVee and doesn’t rate the draft.

That said, I appreciate what you are saying and remain hopeful a F3 is missing.
I am very very confident with the Academy players in this years draft that another pick in the 20s will be available. It has to be treated separately nut I will transfer all my rage to Twomey if there's a WC F3 attached
 
Alright, sorry for clogging up the thread, I'm just dumbfounded people dont see the issue or dont think its worth caring about if the club gives up a 2nd round pick for nothing. However, I've taken names, if any of you who think it's irrelevant dare to complain about Academies and teams getting players for free, then you'll be getting as many bin-reacts as I can muster

I'll go touch grass
We are skating on thin ice as it is trying to compete with the trust fund clubs

Our only chance is to get good value from our resources

Maybe Judge McVee is a gun for us but it’s still a crap-Ola trade
 
I don't necessarily disagree with you but I also am not going to get myself worked up about it until the WHOLE trade is FULLY confirmed
Perfectly fair. A fair bit of my working myself up is now directed at people not thinking it matters. I just fundamentally dont understand that opinion (doesnt help being Dunning-Krugered and told to touch grass). I think it's being accountant that gets me so angry at this stuff
 
I’m sorry but most of you are straight dumb. 12 to 19 is fine. Outside of the top 5 this draft is horrid.To get a known commodity with pick 23.. which will blow out to probably 30 is fine. Freo didn’t have the pick to get him otherwise . Freo already said they ain’t gonna be too active and will just get whan, and stab at a few other. Calm down shit sippers
 

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Nothing is separate though. These things don’t occur in a vacuum.

Maybe west coast were making moves on McVee behind the scenes, and leaned on Freo, so Walls had to go.

Maybe there were no other good opportunities to generate a pick 20s for McVee, so walls went with what he had. Walls isn’t a campaigner who brinksmanships the 33.

The trade for me highlights how much the club rates McVee and doesn’t rate the draft.

That said, I appreciate what you are saying and remain hopeful a F3 is missing.
Most third party supporters (eg Not Melbourne or Freo supporters) seem to think we got a bargain. I agree with them. McVee is absolutely a potential gun. His second year was elite for a young player in a top team and I think if he can get back to full fitness he'll be one of the better recruits next year.
 
This draft may be rated poorly, but the pick isn’t even about the quality of the player. It’s about the order of preference for the spud you take.

I don’t mind 23 for McVee, but moving 7 places down limits who we will take UNLESS we are very specifically targeting one or two guys and they don’t feature in most top 20s.

That’s the only way this is remotely justifiable and even then I’d argue we still could’ve got more in this deal.

There’s a reason this ended up being done quickly because someone got shafted. Looks like that’s us.
 
I wonder with Fred sliding so much and knowing he and his family being in discussion with Freo a fair bit has helped orchestrate this trade.

Whan is going to Freo anyway and we have the picks to do this without trading in next years picks

I'm not saying it's a done deal but Freo really rate Rodriguez and known what is a fair pick for him
 
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I’m sorry but most of you are straight dumb. 12 to 19 is fine. Outside of the top 5 this draft is horrid.To get a known commodity with pick 23.. which will blow out to probably 30 is fine. Freo didn’t have the pick to get him otherwise . Freo already said they ain’t gonna be too active and will just get whan, and stab at a few other. Calm down shit sippers
That's fine but you don't help a team get a possibly better player than you are getting and pick 12 as well
 
I’m sorry but most of you are straight dumb. 12 to 19 is fine. Outside of the top 5 this draft is horrid.To get a known commodity with pick 23.. which will blow out to probably 30 is fine. Freo didn’t have the pick to get him otherwise . Freo already said they ain’t gonna be too active and will just get whan, and stab at a few other. Calm down shit sippers
You need to actually read what people are complaining about before comment with shit that doesn’t make sense
 
This draft may be rated poorly, but the pick isn’t even about the quality of the player. It’s about the order of preference for the spud you take.

I don’t mind 23 for McVee, but moving 7 places down limits who we will take UNLESS we are very specifically targeting one or two guys and they don’t feature in most top 20s.

That’s the only way this is remotely justifiable and even then I’d argue we still could’ve got more in this deal.

There’s a reason this ended up being done quickly because someone got shafted. Looks like that’s us.
We got a bargain according to most non Dockers or Melbourne supporters. Make no mistake McVee will be an absolute gun playing further up the field than he did in 2025.

Im already nominating myself to be his 2026 buddy.

Absolutely wrapt to have him onboard. I would have preferred to keep 12 but still happy with this trade.
 
I wonder with Fred sliding so much and nothing he and his family being in discussion with Freo a fair bit has helped orchestrate this trade.

Whan is going to Freo anyway and we have the picks to do this without trading in next years picks

I'm not saying it's a done deal but Freo really rate Rodriguez and known what is a fair pick for him
Just hope WC don't really like him at 12
 
This draft may be rated poorly, but the pick isn’t even about the quality of the player. It’s about the order of preference for the spud you take.

I don’t mind 23 for McVee, but moving 7 places down limits who we will take UNLESS we are very specifically targeting one or two guys and they don’t feature in most top 20s.

That’s the only way this is remotely justifiable and even then I’d argue we still could’ve got more in this deal.

There’s a reason this ended up being done quickly because someone got shafted. Looks like that’s us.
Or maybe everyone outside the top 5 is shithouse, so it doesn’t matter. Freo didn’t have a pick to get mcvee now they do. Was a gun until melb used him as a lockdown def because they have too many half backs
 
Stay out of this Walls! It’s about you, so let us hammer you on the internet with no recompense

I actually went to high school with Wallsy (he was a year above me loll

He is a quality lad.

Also being so called easy/flexible at the trade table will make it easier for agents to recommend their star free agent players to join your club btw, Essendon for example only recruited one big name star to their club during Dodoro's reign (Brendan Goddard) and that was because he was a free agent.

Being reasonable at the trade table will result in more big names be willingly traded to Freo (although granted, i understand your angst given Freo's previous trading history)

You have to give up quality to get quality in today's AFL (especially if you are in the premiership window like Freo)

Didn't Wallsy also engineer the fleecing of Geelong for Jordan Clark (which imo was low key one of the best value bargain trades in the last 10 years) ?

No recruiting manager is flawless or perfect, but I honestly happen to believe Wallsy's record in the last 5 years stacks up as well as a anyone else in the AFL, especially given your club's finishing position and lack of father son and academy picks.

I'll see myself out now, but i genuinely wish Freo all the best and think you guys should be very.excited/optimistic for 2026 and the future.

I am honestly jelly of your club's current list compared to mine
 

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