List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[eaglevision]

Pick 2 confirmed. So according to Jasper’s top 10 which I largely agree with and assuming we get GCS pick 7:

1-Willem Duursma (WCE)
2-Cooper Duff-Tytler (WCE)
3-Dyson Sharp (RICH)
4-Xavier Taylor (RICH)
5-Sullivan Robey (ESS)
6-Sam Grlj (ESS)
7-Sam Cumming (WCE)
8-Aidan Schubert (MELB)
9-Lachy Dovaston (HAW)
10-Josh Lindsay (CARL)

If we can’t find a buyer for pick 2 I’m very happy taking Sharp instead of CDT at 2 and leaving with Duursma, Sharp, Cumming. Brilliant.

 

[RookiePick]

Oscar's best work for the club in a couple of seasons.

Hopefully he finds fitness and form at Brissie and reminds the league who he is.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Pick 2 is banked. Yeh baby

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Okay, now it’s officially official

 

[Altum Volantes]

Oh thank god for that.

Side note: Nice to see it took about 3.5 seconds for confused nuffies to start rambling about assistance from the league and not understanding the difference between Free Agency Compo and 'Free Picks'. The eventual narrative pushed by ill-informed casuals will be that the league 'gave us' Pick 2 when we were shit, therefore all future success is tainted.

Negative Nellie Mode Jokes on them though as we are totally wasting that Pick 2 or at the very least splitting it for a shot at more middling prospects in the Bo Allan mould..

 

[Doashuey]

12 + 14 + 17 = 3,043. Covers the Richmond bids Suns hold other picks.

Suns 6 = 1,690 points

Eagles 12 + 33 = 1,522 points

Eagles trade 12 and 33 for 6. Dont bid on the Suns kids.


And whò said it couldnt be done.

YEah Im not sure that will fly with the AFL. Knowing a team is trading a high pick to get more points for an academy bid but trading for less points with the team that holds 1 and 2 is as blatant as you can get. Not that I mind it and Im sure GCS would be OK with it but I dont think the AFL will allow it.

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Yessssssssssss. Bye to that mopey bloke that has had one borderline key forward worthy season, approaching 27 and didn’t mind jumping ship while captain because he thought he was worth more than we were willing to give (he wasn’t, and good on the club).

Hopefully they can’t repeat their fantastic run and he remains on their list and ends up his career on the slide while we are rising. All the best, now the enemy. Ginbey to bully him

 

[pantskyle]

Huzzah.

 

[eaglevision]

Thanks Oscar. Goodbye and good luck.

 

[Jootube]

Bombers wont bid after they get fiorini for a f3 and don't ruin their draiper compo

That's fair, but if the Tigers bid on the Suns pair it's even worse for them. They will have their entire draft hand wiped out

 

[RookiePick]

YEah Im not sure that will fly with the AFL. Knowing a team is trading a high pick to get more points for an academy bid but trading for less points with the team that holds 1 and 2 is as blatant as you can get. Not that I mind it and Im sure GCS would be OK with it but I dont think the AFL will allow it.

This league ticked off on Jack Bowes going to Geelong and GC also giving Geelong their pick 7 for the pleasure of it.

There's zero integrity, just whatever the prevailing mood of the day is.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Just for those saying the deal was meh.


Herald Sun (who are normally east coast biased and driven to applaud clubs that make moves, whether bad or not) assessing the trade. Eagles A-, Lions B+ and Freo C-.

They report the winner in this three-teamer is West Coast, who get the player and the best draft pick of the deal.

The Eagles moved up the draft order and had to hand over a choice (22) they got given on a silver platter by the AFL for losing games, and only did the deal to make sure they still likely get pick 2 as Oscar Allen

12

Oscar Allen

Age

26

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

compensation.

 

[uncleoatmeal]

The script seems simple from here. Get 7, only split 2 if the second player we want will be available at whatever we split it for. Otherwise just take 1,2 and 7 into the draft, don’t really care who we take, I’m sure they’ll be more talented than 90% of our list.

 

[Obeanie1]

YEah Im not sure that will fly with the AFL. Knowing a team is trading a high pick to get more points for an academy bid but trading for less points with the team that holds 1 and 2 is as blatant as you can get. Not that I mind it and Im sure GCS would be OK with it but I dont think the AFL will allow it.

We throw in a F3rd if needed for "the look".

AFL just signed off on pick 2.

This is nothing more than the botttom team using its ladder position to scrape back lost points it has given up over the years.

 

[darksquare]

12 + 14 + 17 = 3,043. Covers the Richmond bids Suns hold other picks.

Suns 6 = 1,690 points

Eagles 12 + 33 = 1,522 points

Eagles trade 12 and 33 for 6. Dont bid on the Suns kids.

This is good for both clubs, but the AFL wouldn't sign it off because the points deficit makes it obvious we're using bidding as part of the trade. Needs some additional confusing elements to get it over the line, like our 37/Chesser compensation/Ryan compensation + F3 for their F2.

 

[MIKE85]

I don’t recall saying good luck

 

[stinger05]

Bye Oscar you money hungry grub.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Pick 2 confirmed. So according to Jasper’s top 10 which I largely agree with and assuming we get GCS pick 7:

1-Willem Duursma (WCE)
2-Cooper Duff-Tytler (WCE)
3-Dyson Sharp (RICH)
4-Xavier Taylor (RICH)
5-Sullivan Robey (ESS)
6-Sam Grlj (ESS)
7-Sam Cumming (WCE)
8-Aidan Schubert (MELB)
9-Lachy Dovaston (HAW)
10-Josh Lindsay (CARL)

If we can’t find a buyer for pick 2 I’m very happy taking Sharp instead of CDT at 2 and leaving with Duursma, Sharp, Cumming. Brilliant.

It won't be popular here but there's a way to start a bidding frenzy between tigers and bombers.

Take sharp at 1.

Then watch both come for pick 2 with both duursma CDT on the board.

Trade 2 12 for 4 5 20



1-sharp (WCE)

2-Cooper Duff-Tytler/duursma ess

3- CDT/duursma rich

4-Xavier Taylor/grjl (RICH)

Leaves plenty options at 5 6
5-cumming wc

6 Shubert


20 slider.

33 37 57 for Banfield, Williams bids

Bang

 

[TwoStriders]

Assuming that Uwland and Patterson are bid on by the Bombers, the Suns will require MINIMUM 3000 points to match (post-discount).

This will swallow up picks 6, 14, & 17.
Pick 7 will likely be used for the Petracca trade.

I don't think the Suns can trade away any of their top 4 selections without going into serious points deficit, or doing some magic with a F1 trade.

Happy to hear a different opinion.

They would be able to absorb bids at 4 and 5 with 6,14 and 17 (assuming 7 goes for Petracca).

It gets more complicated for them if the bids come at say 2/3 or 2/4. Even with 35 added, they will go into deficit in those situations. It becomes even worse for them if we recieve pick 2 as compo for Allen, because all of their picks get pushed down and are worth less for matching points.

So if anything, they are probably incentivised to trade at least one of those first rounders for a package of later picks that provide a surplus of points.

For example: 6 for our 12/33/37 would give them an additional 160 points. Or 6 for 12/33/37/40 (assuming that's what we get for Chesser) would give them a more comfy 398 point surplus.

Both Melbourne and North Melbourne are pretty well positioned to make a play for 14 with packages of 23/27/41 and 24/25/45 respectively.

EDIT: and there we go, pick 2 as Allen compo pushes their picks down the order.

 

[TerryFilk]

I think we should explore trading our F2 into this draft, would love to keep pick 12 and still move up to the Suns pick 6 - are there teams who’d trade multiple 20’s picks for our F2?

 

[CountryLad]

Pick 2 confirmed. So according to Jasper’s top 10 which I largely agree with and assuming we get GCS pick 7:

1-Willem Duursma (WCE)
2-Cooper Duff-Tytler (WCE)
3-Dyson Sharp (RICH)
4-Xavier Taylor (RICH)
5-Sullivan Robey (ESS)
6-Sam Grlj (ESS)
7-Sam Cumming (WCE)
8-Aidan Schubert (MELB)
9-Lachy Dovaston (HAW)
10-Josh Lindsay (CARL)

If we can’t find a buyer for pick 2 I’m very happy taking Sharp instead of CDT at 2 and leaving with Duursma, Sharp, Cumming. Brilliant.

Personally think we end up with 7 & 8 and the Dees get pick 2 for Petracca.

Trade up with the Blues with Chesser deal and take 1,7,8 & 10 to the draft.

 

[Altum Volantes]

Just for those saying the deal was meh.


Herald Sun (who are normally east coast biased and driven to applaud clubs that make moves, whether bad or not) assessing the trade. Eagles A-, Lions B+ and Freo C-.

They report the winner in this three-teamer is West Coast, who get the player and the best draft pick of the deal.

The Eagles moved up the draft order and had to hand over a choice (22) they got given on a silver platter by the AFL for losing games, and only did the deal to make sure they still likely get pick 2 as Oscar Allen compensation.

Is that last paragraph actually what they wrote?

That's an all-time backhander haha

 

[Jootube]

12 + 14 + 17 = 3,043. Covers the Richmond bids Suns hold other picks.

Suns 6 = 1,690 points

Eagles 12 + 33 = 1,522 points

Eagles trade 12 and 33 for 6. Dont bid on the Suns kids.

Maybe I am dumb, but if Richmond bid on the Suns kids that's 4,140 points (or 3,726 after the 10% discount).
Suns pick 6 is now shuffled back to pick 8 (Oscar compo plus the bid moves them down).
Eagles pick 12 will be pick 14 when the bid comes (at best).
We can assume pick 33 will stay at 33 after bids/matches.

Pick 8 = 1,443
Pick 14 = 1,024
Pick 33 = 382
Total = 2,849 points.

This is a mile off matching the required 3,726 points if the Tigers bid on both Suns boys.

Happy for someone to rebut my workings but people are overestimating the Suns position on points IMO.

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

Wait, wtf? We get pick 2 for Allen? But I was told it wasn't going to happen?

 

[TerryFilk]

It won't be popular here but there's a way to start a bidding frenzy between tigers and bombers.

Take sharp at 1.

Then watch both come for pick 2 with both duursma CDT on the board.

Trade 2 12 for 4 5 20



1-sharp (WCE)

2-Cooper Duff-Tytler/duursma ess

3- CDT/duursma rich

4-Xavier Taylor/grjl (RICH)

Leaves plenty options at 5 6
5-cumming wc

6 Shubert


20 slider.

33 37 57 for Banfield, Williams bids

Bang

That’s quite possibly the most stupid suggestion I’ve ever heard

So we miss out on the best two prospects in the open pool, reach on Sharp - who I’m very confident will be there at the Suns pick we can trade up for and we don’t even get THAT much for pick 2 despite apparently creating a crazy bidding war?

Oh and pick 6 on a tall forward, just what we need.