Rumour Bluemour Discussion XL - ‘Silly Season’ in full swing 😱

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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Thanks all!

 

[norway blue]

The thing about Geelongs offer that’s so poor is they’ve clearly courted him for ages, got the news out etc and haven’t even bothered to try and turn those picks into anything. They could have been shifting them trying to add value but they’ve arrogantly gone… here’s what we got, take it or leave it type deal.

Our forward line will be interesting.I’m backing in Kemp to contribute . Harry down the line and drifting fwd. Centre forward to small /bigg . Read the game and know your teammates. I’m excited about next year .Go Blues.

 

[Garters]

Great news, we lose nothing by trailing him and at his best or to his potential is a better small forward than almost all on our list!

Smart move!

Agree, sometimes a few life lessons and a couple of years of maturity can do wonders.

Coming from a long way back so chance of him pulling it off is low, but has the ability no doubt.

Low risk, high potential pay-off. Most likely outcome not much. I like the thinking.

 

[Shambolic]

Near on 20 years for me and my username brings me nothing but pain...

My username used to mean simply ridiculous, although was used a lot more in 25 given our forward entries

 

[blue healer]

Won’t happen, if Charlie continues to be disruptive and uncooperative, unfortunately the club has very little choice but to trade him.
Otherwise we run the risk to dilute the value of a prime asse.

Is this deliberate?

 

[djw1952]

The thing about Geelongs offer that’s so poor is they’ve clearly courted him for ages, got the news out etc and haven’t even bothered to try and turn those picks into anything. They could have been shifting them trying to add value but they’ve arrogantly gone… here’s what we got, take it or leave it type deal.

I would tell the "salary cap sponsor cheating" Cats to stick that offer and "Cotton Off", unles they at least made it 2 picks and a real good player, because with Charlie in their side they would be playing off in the GF for the next 3 seasons and the picks would all be very late first rounders. Carlton will be hoping that this offer from Geel stirs the Swans into action I would imagine as I think that Carlton would rather that Charlie does not get his dream move to the Cats unless a player is definately involved, as he really has let the club down.........I wonder what Ed thinks about all this?!!

 

[Beyond Blue]

Not really stressing about CC. It'll get done in a multi team trade and we'll do well from it.

No more cringing every time he jumps at the ball expecting his knee to blow out.

Ad no more cringing watch in him pretend to chase his opponent…

 

[Garters]

Cerra who went for pick 6 + F3 ?

Saad who went for pick 8 + 87?

Flanders who went for pick 8?

Dangerfield who went for 9 + 28 + Dean Gore?

Treloar who went for 7 + 8 with a 2nd coming back?



How are these in any way better than Sydneys 2025 1st, 2026 1st, Hayward and a pick for Florent/Ainsworth?

The irrepressible Dean Gore.... Adelaide really made out like bandits on that one.

 

[NavySteel]

I don't know why.

But I don't think Tanner Bruhn is a long term AFL player.

Just a feeling

If it was any other club, the media would be feasting. But for some reason geelong gets a pass.

 

[GoBlues!]

But the media...

No club has ever offered 3 first rounds like this

What a joke.

Is Cal Twomey a Geelong supporter?

 

[alfo]

Is Cal Twomey a Geelong supporter?

* supporter

 

[Red_man2008]

I mean he'll be on a one year deal, but due diligence will be done.

Can you tell me of a player with a longer existing contract?

Best way to rate in this instance is more in the context of the draft as prospect - where I'd probably have him in the 30-40 range - then consider his immediate value and remaining career against a probable draftee, which probably pushes him up a tad, so mid-to-late 2nd.

We need more.

The AFL is hitting the reset button on rules regarding required first round pick selections across a 4 year window for a team: the minimum remains 2, but nothing before 2025 is being considered for any team as of this trade period.

It's being done to help deal with the Tasmanian concessions. Geelong would need to find another first round pick at some point and take it to a draft night.

Pick 3 or 4 gets Butters? We have the cash.

But honestly I see him as a weaker version of Murphy that we'd be getting in his prime, just a case of what that's worth to us versus turning his head next year in an open market, even if PA match the offer.

If we don't rate a prospect such as Robey, Sharp or Duff-Tytler ahead of him:

1. Why would Port?
2. Why not try and grab another top prospect alongside Walker in 2026 instead?

You weren't asking a rhetorical question, but fair point on the full exchange details, wasn't made clear.

That still doesn't resolve what GWS are doing up forward, which would be top heavy and aging.

The Swans would umm and ahh about it but they'd definitely accept the offer

Mostly because we already have pick 9

We don’t have pick 9. We have pick 11.

 

[Foucault1989]

I don't believe we need WC involved. Just make sure the deal includes Sydney's 1st this year and next year.
Then use our pick 11 and Sydney's 10 to move up to pick 2 and Chesser from WC.

But if we put it on Geelong or Sydney to get pick 2 as a precondition of the trade, we can keep the TDK pick and use it to trade into next year for a future 1st. 3 future 1st round picks should be the goal.

 

[bluebunz]

I did see one of the journos suggesting Humphries, Ollie Henry, 1st rounder and future 1st rounder. I don't mind it.

Getting there. Better mix of picks and (quality) players.

 

[Bee Vee]

I have a question, what does the club want in return. do we know what we want

I'd suggest certainty from the AFL on what will be required to acquire Cody Walker. Until then, we're trading for picks that have unknown value and if rumours are correct, may well be directly unusable in the deal.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

 

[Treesloth]

But the media...

No club has ever offered 3 first rounds like this

What a joke.

I mean it is a monster offer, in a sense.

It’s just made by a club that expects, and probably will, finish top four/eight in the next few years.

If it was accepted and they slide the next two years (or if he gets injured) then they probably would’ve paid major overs for him.

Not saying we take it and it obviously falls short of our expectation for an established senior player to be involved, but let’s not pretend that it’s not without its risks or its not a ballsy move…

 

[AndyLucimitis]

But the media...

No club has ever offered 3 first rounds like this

What a joke.

We should be changing to term “First Round pick” to Top 18 Pick.

That is really what a first round pick is.

That then puts the Cats offer as three 2nd round picks.

 

[Rosscoe 17]

If 2027 picks are allowed to be traded. Couldn’t we use it for a 2026 pick we could use for Cody.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

 

[Ninja Worrier]

If 2027 picks are allowed to be traded. Couldn’t we use it for a 2026 pick we could use for Cody.

Will be difficult to do in practice, next year's draft looks strong and 2027 is impacted by Tassie concessions...only likelihood is teams that need 2027 picks to match FS or academy bids

 

[GoBlues!]

If 2027 picks are allowed to be traded. Couldn’t we use it for a 2026 pick we could use for Cody.

There will be 25 round one picks in 2027 when the Devils join, not including F/S selections etc. How would you determine the value of an unknown 2027 pick in a 2026 pick trade?

Geelong’s 2027 R1 might be in the mid/late 20s.

 

[hoops2fev]

Let's not forget Charlie was on track for a third Coleman in a row till he got injured in 2024, how many games in a row he kicked bags of goals and won us games, but saying that I'm not a fan of someone disrespecting my club and I'm sure guys like Weiters cripps and Walsh wouldn't either

 

[Rustica]

So Cats will be focusing their attention on Charlie now

However, if there isnt any A grade players on the table they will be going back down the highway missing out on both Charlie and Marshall

 

[juzza316]

Geelong will go hard now, there is no way they are getting better with worpel only. Lions and suns already streets ahead in terms of their off season trades and draft haul

 

[Blue__Balls]

We should be changing to term “First Round pick” to Top 18 Pick.

That is really what a first round pick is.

That then puts the Cats offer as three 2nd round picks.

Not any more, it's not. A first round pick can quite easily end up in the early to mid 20s.