List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[Avalor]

Jesus Christ, presumably

CJ out of Hawthorn - been told to explore options. Yes, would love him in the

 

[Barrybran]

Jesus Christ, presumably

Blasphemy! It's Jamie Cripps.

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

Put it this way, if Connors was managing Aleer, he’d be at the Saints. Geish also has Harley.

Even if it was a minnow agent, we’re the nice guys remember?

If you want to be pissed at someone, be pissed and Pyke. Hes the one that said last year that West Coast dont use the preseason draft, thats not how we are going to do business.
In my opinion Clarkes hands are tied

 

[Barrybran]

Looking at the Young highlights, he looks kinda quick for a tall.

 

[amazingjoshy]

This is along with paying over half his contract

They really want him gone

 

[Elite Pete]

i doubt it. They will come under the Afl salary cap not the Wafl salary cap if they are on the Afl list.
We also will not have any restrictions oh who plays Wafl league games unlike Peel who can play some of their younger players in the Wafl reserves unlike us who don't have a Wafl reserves side.
Four extra players will improve but even i would be surprised if they make the finals.
Also Barnett will have to play league for the Beagles.The whole point of having players in a stand alone team and not palmed off to another team.

Issue is if we have a good injury run we could have 49 players on our list (if they introduce the extra rookie spot) they will be juggling the emergency I’m sure but that’s still hard to get minutes into everyone

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

Agree with this. Some posters set themselves up to melt by setting the expectation bar in the win the trade setting.

It’s already happening with the bid on the suns kids at pick one and get Patterson. It’s not happening, no club has bid on a player at pick one yet and that includes Dacios, the Ashcroft’s and Sam Darcy. All more worthy of pick one status than the Academy kids this year.
It’s not happening but you watch posters in here convince themselves.

Adelaide did it with Jamara

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Issue is if we have a good injury run we could have 49 players on our list (if they introduce the extra rookie spot) they will be juggling the emergency I’m sure but that’s still hard to get minutes into everyone

A good injury run is absolute minimum 5 at any stage of the year. If you look at most teams they have 6-8 weekly. The more impacted up to 10, crisis above 10

 

[Wce17]

If we did split 2 for say 5 & 6 would we then go to GC & trade 13 for there F1 as that would get them the points they needed this year to match bids.

Another F1 would be good with the bidding system changes & 13 blows out to around 17/18 anyway with bids. It's also looking like a stronger draft.

 

[Scotland]

I reckon Naitanui being such the Clearance beast was a good part on why we neglected proper midfielders in drafts/trading. (Took the position for granted)

We had 3 strengths: JK/JD + decent smalls, JMc/TB + decent smalls, Naitanui/Yeo/Shuey in the middle. NicNat's first use to Shuey and Yeo at pace gave us hitouts to advantage and centre clearances that were worth 5 or 10 repeat stoppage clearances around the ground. And on top of that he hunted the contest at ground level if he didn't win it. We saw even last year how much of a difference it made having Yeo and Reid together in the middle. Sure NN wasn't a good endurance athlete by AFL standards so couldn't ruck 90% of game time like Gawn or Grundy but which other rucks were roving their own taps and running away from Paddy Ryder taking bounces?

There were periods in 2019/20/21 where we weren't very good, but also were very good because we were efficient. A good quarter or a good half, or just turning a low number of inside 50s into enough of a score to win. And now we're at the opposite end of the spectrum. We have games where the clearances and/or inside 50s are about even, but a bad quarter means a 10 goal loss. We only lost the clearances by 4 against Sydney in Rd 23 but lost the game by 11 goals. Was 83-9 after half time and a procession out of the middle. Means nothing beating up on the team that is stone motherless but it's still the aim of the game to win the ball from the centre bounce and get it forward to create shots on goal.

Barely getting to see any NicNat + Yeo/Shuey/Kelly together in combination is pretty bullshit.

 

[amazingjoshy]

WAFL flag incoming. Will be interesting to see if the WAFL put any extra restrictions on our wafl team now we have the 4 extra players. Might need to find a reserves alignment for Barnett ect

5 spoons in a row to premiers because of a couple of extra players would be quite something

 

[element]

With the Tylar trade now done, the only thing left would be looking at trading up.

Although not terrible, the player trades haven't really felt like outright 'wins' (bar that one brief, glorious moment in the Starc trade before the full details were released).
I also get the feeling that other clubs won't budge because they know WC are desperate.

Coming off a 1-win season there is a need to show some improvement; both for the supporters and to retain guys like Harley. Richmond and Brissie would've known we'd have to do whatever it took to get senior players in when so very few were willing to come to us. Not much of a negotiating position.

Hopefully a decent deal is made to move up the draft, but I'm also wary of there being any unexpected bids on our academy kids and therefore a need to keep later pick or two.

 

[Scotland]

If we did split 2 for say 5 & 6 would we then go to GC & trade 13 for there F1 as that would get them the points they needed this year to match bids.

Another F1 would be good with the bidding system changes & 13 blows out to around 17/18 anyway with bids. It's also looking like a stronger draft.

Not sure I want Gold Coast's future first if they are adding Petracca and Ugle-Hagan + two top 10 picks.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Some seem keen to trade picks just for the sake of it

Pretty happy to go with 1,2 and 13 and enough points to match any bids on Williams and Banfield.

 

[squashface]

Essentially doing Chesser + 38 for Young + 41 is not worth melting over but it would be nice to one day see Clarke not pay slight overs/accept slight unders in every single trade he does.

 

[juice568]

Some seem keen to trade picks just for the sake of it

Pretty happy to go with 1,2 and 13 and enough points to match any bids on Williams and Banfield.

If we can trade pick 2 for 2 top 10 picks we need to look at it

 

[new breed]

The big guy ....M Clarke knows draft night is the time to trade pick 2 and not before , Better value !!

 

[chaddy22]

Who is JC ?

Julius Ceaser

 

[BartBart]

Blasphemy! It's Jamie Cripps.

Po-ta-to, Pot-a-to

 

[amazingjoshy]

If we can trade pick 2 for 2 top 10 picks we need to look at it

If we know for sure we can get who want with whatever we trade down to then sure, its a no brainer if we get a free top 10 pick. But its doubtful we wont be sacrificing who we want to move down

But 1,2 and 13 is a pretty bloody good hand. There's no need to do anything

 

[PremiershipNo4]

We need to go after melbournes F1 based on that. They will be shocking without Tracc and Oliver and with viney and gawn a year older struggling to win them games.

Yep an injury to Gawn and they’re Gawn

 

[Wet Toast Rule]

I suspect we’ve also learnt to not dig our heels in for the sake of it. Whilst the Barrass trade was ok (even better if we take Carlton’s picks) we did get stung for not taking pick 12 or whatever the Hawks were initially offering. We would have still had pick 3.

This year, we seem to be more efficient at getting deals done and not squabbling over minor differences - and thus losing time / opportunity cost

Clarke could have totally messed things up and stuck it up Brissie thus screwing up our pick 2 compo.

So whilst it hasn’t been a groundbreaking trade period, it’s been the absence of **** ups that has been a positive.

Now we just wait for the bids for pick 1 or 2 and hopefully it’s a bidding war so we extract maximum value.

 

[Wce17]

Some seem keen to trade picks just for the sake of it

Pretty happy to go with 1,2 and 13 and enough points to match any bids on Williams and Banfield.

IF Duursma & CDT are seen as the clear top 2 & we don't think CDT is the right fit for us & then after that we have a big group who are all rated similarly then it makes perfect sense to split it and have 2 goes at picking players who we feel are better fits. Don't reach with 2 & then still have plenty of options at 5 & 6.

It all really depends on with the internal rankings are which we will never likely know.

 

[BartBart]

We had 3 strengths: JK/JD + decent smalls, JMc/TB + decent smalls, Naitanui/Yeo/Shuey in the middle. NicNat's first use to Shuey and Yeo at pace gave us hitouts to advantage and centre clearances that were worth 5 or 10 repeat stoppage clearances around the ground. And on top of that he hunted the contest at ground level if he didn't win it. We saw even last year how much of a difference it made having Yeo and Reid together in the middle. Sure NN wasn't a good endurance athlete by AFL standards so couldn't ruck 90% of game time like Gawn or Grundy but which other rucks were roving their own taps and running away from Paddy Ryder taking bounces?

There were periods in 2019/20/21 where we weren't very good, but also were very good because we were efficient. A good quarter or a good half, or just turning a low number of inside 50s into enough of a score to win. And now we're at the opposite end of the spectrum. We have games where the clearances and/or inside 50s are about even, but a bad quarter means a 10 goal loss. We only lost the clearances by 4 against Sydney in Rd 23 but lost the game by 11 goals. Was 83-9 after half time and a procession out of the middle. Means nothing beating up on the team that is stone motherless but it's still the aim of the game to win the ball from the centre bounce and get it forward to create shots on goal.

Barely getting to see any NicNat + Yeo/Shuey/Kelly together in combination is pretty bullshit.

I reckon a 4th - a game style that worked with the rules that existed (zone defence, shortish pass/marking that leant on guys like Redden & Gaff finding the space to be kicked to, Cripps sprinting into square at bounce to make a bounce 5 on 4).

These were killed off by ... Stand Rule (zone defence), 6-6-6 (not possible to sprint into square at bounce), change in ruck rules/Natanui being injured/retired.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

This is along with paying over half his contract

They really want him gone

I’d like to see Clayton paired with Toby, the two most punchable heads in the AFL on the same team, you beauty!