Rumour Bluemour Discussion XLI

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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[Dramoth]

Haywood + 3 Firsts
Curnow + 31, 42 and F27 2nd.

Picks #31 and #42 not worth a whole lot.

So if we back ourselves to be performing well in 27 i think it's a really good trade. Suspect we'll need to swap a pick for some points for Dean this year.

I think that we'll be looking at trading one of our two firsts this year for 2 later picks in the first round. GC17 needs another 1000 points, so we could look at trading pick 11 (1205) for pick 15 and 37 (1270)

 

[AB_Blue]

If we play this out over the the 4 seasons;

Last year 3
This year now sitting on 9+11
Next year 2 firsts
2027 2 first.

Which will/has given us a position to get Dean (best defender in draft), third best player in the draft this yeae, Walker next year.

We are getting 3 years of good youth, BEFORE tassie comes in (imagine if we needed this when Tassie had all the picks) & we have 2 first in the year Tassie enters.

All by moving picks & the only really player of note Charlie.

I think that’s a job well done by Austin

Short term pain for a long term gain (we hope) similar to the 2015-2018 era hopefully with a better result…

 

[Warsaw]

The package for Curnow is reasonable, and I was pretty negative towards what had been reported prior.

Don't have a read on how they'll fair next year. Instinct is to say they will be much worse, but there's potential there with what's coming in for them to make some noise. Fraser has a huge job ahead of him.

Ultimately though it's more likely a reset year. They're clearly gearing up for a major splash + take care of the F/S. It's close to a two-timeline scenario which is insanely difficult to pull off, especially when the coach is in the last year of his contract.

Ordering those Etsy witches to put a curse on Sydney as we speak...

 

[ctwenty1]

Also interested in this...

reckon you shoudl keep for posterity

 

[bluebaggerjuls]

First time in 30 years I feel we have a serious Football Department

the irrational emotional move would have been to knock back that deal by the swans

 

[The Fantom]

I didn’t check my phone for the last 90mins, did we get Humphrey and will he be wearing number 30?

 

[StaggerLee]

The middle nutsack on The Agenda Setters just summarised it well. Blues got dealt a bad hand - TDK leaving as FA, JSOS leaving as FA and Charlie says he wants out…. to wind up with a slew of experienced - but still young enough - dynamic types (Florent, Ainsworth, Hayward) and 6 first rounders in the next 3 years is a solid outcome I reckon.

If you look at what it cost to buy all three and what we sold them for we have done pretty well.

 

[YeoShuey]

Anyone know how to change a username

Pay up for Premium.

I'd be changing mine too, but not paying the price.

 

[Blue Ratts]

This was Wrights trade period

Think it was both, with good guidance

 

[Blue Doormat]

Charlie’s manager
- Charlie is a big personality in the room… is that short for Charlie has been a pr1ck this year?

Haven’t heard any culturally questionable comments about Hayward, Florent, Ainsworth etc…

Happy with the adjustment

 

[raymagoo]

Icing on cake will be getting at least one pick in before Dawn, either by trading up or no one bidding

Will have two before dawn if still split over two nights

 

[gandaal]

Best one in a weak draft potentially swallowed.

Next year they'll be a top four team and will be used on Cody.

2027 draft heavily compromised.

Weak trade for a 2x Coleman medalistA

How many top 4 teams will there be next year?

Apparently Sydney, Geelong, Collingwood, Hawthorn, Adelaide, Brisbane, Gold Coast and St Kilda are dead certainties.

 

[circusdevil]

We will very likely trade up ahead of a Dean bid. Almost certain of it.

I get that ... none of them really inspire me.
I would have liked to have held Charlie and told a team next year to get us 2 first rounders in the 2026 draft.
But hey, i'm just some dude on the internet.

 

[passmark]

Good. Their list looks very short on mids now with Worpell moving on and big question marks over Day's body.

They had a heck of a lot riding on that Merrett deal.

They'll probably find some bush league no name who turns out to be a 250 game player.

 

[Coona Blues]

3 FIRSTS???

Yep and added two quality small forwards.

The words are “sorry Nick”

 

[gbatman]

First time in 30 years I feel we have a serious Football Department

X2

 

[Faz 2000]

I'm happy to see a dissenting player leave.
But this off-season has seen us unequivocally weaker. The players we lose are well in excess of the players we gain. And we have some high draft picks this year, in a crap draft. And then we get Walker next year, and 2027 is a right-off. How are we not weaker?

Initially, yes, it looks like a step back. But the path we were on was not working. So maybe this gives us the assets and flexibility to take good steps forward. I’m bullish.

In the grand scheme of things… who cares whether we’re better in 2026 in isolation? We have to get on a pathway that is consistently good, sustainably competitive. I think that’s what the new regime is trying to address, and this forced reset trade/FA period arguably accelerates it.

Charlie leaving might be hard to swallow, but might be what we need in the long run. Weaker tonight for Round 1 2026? Yes. Weaker for the long term? No, I think stronger.

 

[Lace_Out]

This was Wrights trade period

Yep, he had boss written all over him in that room. The reason Swans buckled and not us again.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

think we will try to move up the draft to take three this year, or we try to trade something into next year

We can try to move up by using one of our 1sts and a 2027 F1 maybe.

 

[RPCB]

whats with all the losers saying we caved ? We killed it!

Yep.

Three first round picks and a very good player in Hayward (who a very good club in Sydney gave a four year contract to last year) for a 29 year old with ****ed knees is not caving. Curnow is two years removed with winning his last Coleman medal. One of the first rounders is Pick 11.

In comparison, GWS traded Jeremy Cameron (won the Coleman the year before) at 27 for three first round picks. Picks 13, 15 and 20.

 

[Blue since 72]

Panelist of Foxtel absolutely sh*tcanning the players we've brought in.

Said panelist obviously has no insight into our list and what we need to be better then.

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

They will, cos Swans will be at pointy end. But it’s not a bad position to hold two+ first rounders for the next three drafts, right? Maybe the Swans win flags, they’re still good assets.

With Cox at the helm, I’m confident they won’t be top 4.

 

[Brezsa]

I feel sorry for him. Keeps racking up B&Fs. Was sold a line and they stuffed it up. Now he is 30, wants to experience success, and they begrudge him because he's their only A grader. He will probably relinquish the captaincy and try again next year. Straight to the bottom Bombers.

100% I don’t think he could do much more for them, given everything for 12 years & now had the chance to deliver the club a significant amount of picks prior to Tassie entering & they still won’t let him go

 

[Bringbackeddie]

Perspective: Melbourne traded a 28 yo Clayton Oliver

10

Clayton Oliver

Age

28

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

to GWS for a future 3rd round pick. This is what happens when you hold onto a superstar player with attitude issues and a lack of desire to be at the club a bit too long…

 

[Accidental genius]

First time in 30 years I feel we have a serious Football Department

Looking promising so far