Carroll's reluctance to sit on the backbench will render this prediction inaccurate.
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Jacinta Allan - Leading a zombie government
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But he did put his hand up when Andrews retired, and he wasn't on back bench. There's no rule that says you can only challenge from back bench
There's a rule that says you end up there if you challenge and lose. My intel is he is risk averse and won't challenge unless he has it locked up. He does not, and there is less chance of a successful challenge now than there was in April.
So who would be brave enough to take Jacinta Allen on in a leadership challenge within the Labor Party?
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No one while the polling remains as it currently is. Both The Age and the H-Sun ran with "everyone is unhappy with Brad Battin" stories this morning. Jacinta has little to worry about right now.
At the moment, Jacinta has little to worry about. But it will take one shooting spree by an indivdual or major stabbings by gangs in the CBD on a weekend night for the heat to go back to Allen and talk of a leadership challenge against Allen by unhappy Labor MPs, especially those whose seats are in the northern and western suburbs of Melbourne that is ground zero of the crime wave to go from a whisper to a roar.
There is no crime in Melbourne, Jacinta will tell you that.
Now, if someone stole her hard hat and orange vest, then her tune might change and she’ll unleash all the might of Victoria Police on the culprit.
Now, if someone stole her hard hat and orange vest, then her tune might change and she’ll unleash all the might of Victoria Police on the culprit.
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As bad as people claim it is under Labor, it would be worse under the Vic Liberals.
Look how poorly they handle everything. Look at the messes they keep making.
Imagine if they'd been in power at all over the last decade.
Complain all you like, lie even. But be honest with yourselves on how much worse everything would have been handled under the Liberal party.
Unless any of you think it would have actually been better?
Look how poorly they handle everything. Look at the messes they keep making.
Imagine if they'd been in power at all over the last decade.
Complain all you like, lie even. But be honest with yourselves on how much worse everything would have been handled under the Liberal party.
Unless any of you think it would have actually been better?
The CFMEU would not have been allowed into government construction sites, so any infrastructure that would have been built would have been built for less. As a result, government debt would be lower. There would not have been a massive expansion of upper and middle management in the public service.
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laughable to think that it wouldn't just be a different group profiteering off any contracts
of course corporate greed good, union greed bad
yes I know actual crime figures were involved but if corporate crime was treated the same as bikie crime there would be a lot of people from board rooms in jail
they get a fine and are allowed to keep most of the illegally gained profits though so its all good
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Because the contractor would never ever charge more? Seems your a bit nieve on the real world there Punter.
70 million each year to have a treaty in Victoria, this state is beyond a joke. Labor is genuinely out of control
The most hilarious aspect to me of the entire treaty discussion is this idea that "Victorians didn't vote for it", as the Sky News types point to the 46-54 Voice referendum result in Victoria.
Labor took their commitment to a treaty to the 2022 State Election. You're damn right Victorians voted for it.
Labor took their commitment to a treaty to the 2022 State Election. You're damn right Victorians voted for it.
Love to hear your break down of how a treaty requires 70 million a year to operate?
It’s a joke it was even done.
Government is spiraling in debt, every project is costing 10x more than we thought and crime is rising.
Which part are you struggling with?
They’ve had basically exclusive control of the state for decades
Debt
Crime
Costs
All spiralling out of control.
Now a treaty will cost another 70 million a year and for what?
Haha, no substance.
Point me towards where I’m wrong..
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You're the one that complained about Australian's booing the US national anthem at a fake wrestling event, right?
70 million each year to have a treaty in Victoria, this state is beyond a joke. Labor is genuinely out of control
But you draw the line at Aboriginal representation in Australia...
You didn't even read the article you posted.
I read the article and they declared it will cost around 70 million annually.
Which part is confusing you?
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This year?
Next year?
Why are you asking what it's being spent on, when it mentions plenty of it in the article you linked?
Why don't you want Aboriginal people to have representation in Australia?
It’s costing over 70 million annually risings over 2% yearly.
Its very broad of where the money actually goes.
Regardless it’ll again achieve nothing, cost a bomb and just be another step towards keeping division going.
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It isn't costing that much this year, or next year.
Not even this financial year or next financial year.
You'd know that if you'd read what you linked.
See, it's not the cost you have an issue with. It's the cause.
It could be $2 billion, or $2 thousand, and you'd still find an excuse to oppose it.
Even if it was $70 million this year. That's what, $1000 per First Nations people in Victoria?
You don't care. You're just pushing hateful rhetoric against groups of people you hate.