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Delisted Callum Ah Chee - Joins Adelaide via the PSD
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- Dec 22, 2006
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For a PSD pick i would run the gauntlet and select him anyway. He can then choose to sit out the year unpaid or swallow his pride and be the professional footballer and turn up to Alberton for 1st week of training.
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Its not about fair price, but by allowing/trading one of your better players to another rival who is competing for the flag you are making it harder on yourself to achieve success. In such a competitive environment I find it odd that clubs are prepared to do this so often.
Glad the club didnt budge on the ridiculous Brisbane demands.
Its the PSD and we get him for nothing. For those thinking he won't get to the Crows, go watch Cals video about the situation. He said 100% gets to Adelaide, they will structure the contract to where no other club will take it on, and CAC won't even talk to any other club.
Thanks for the free hit Brisbane. Thats three now. Keays, Hinge and CAC.
Brisbane are our most productive trading team, and we haven't done a trade with them since we let them have a contracted, best 22 small forward in CC when we didnt have to.
Its the PSD and we get him for nothing. For those thinking he won't get to the Crows, go watch Cals video about the situation. He said 100% gets to Adelaide, they will structure the contract to where no other club will take it on, and CAC won't even talk to any other club.
Thanks for the free hit Brisbane. Thats three now. Keays, Hinge and CAC.
Brisbane are our most productive trading team, and we haven't done a trade with them since we let them have a contracted, best 22 small forward in CC when we didnt have to.
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It can't be "unpaid", he will write this in his contract and the club who pick him will need to pay whether he sit out for the year or not. I think he will structure his contract at 2 years $1M which is what Twomey mentioned.
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Elixuh
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You realise if you had agreed to the pick slide of 16 back to 23 (7 spots), once GC and Bris and the other clubs start matching bids in the first round and using the first rounders to do it, those picks disappear and you move forward in the draft.
23 probably would have become 21 at worst.
Getting a natural pick 20-25 would have cost the Crows far more than just doing a slide and f2.
LukeParkerno1
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A pick slide and a future second is hardly asking for the world, that is more than fair and reasonable.
Don't want to give it that is fine, I look forward to the next time round when the shoe is on the other foot
Elixuh
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The embodiment of the Crom trading spirit, ladies and gentlemen.
7 picks swap is quite massive for a 1st rounder and then asking for F2 on top of that. Maybe we would have done the pick swap with their F2 coming back given they don't even value 2nd rounders.
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Fair enough, I have no faith in the AFL but if they want to ensure the inegrity of the whole process they need to make it transparent, and they sign an AFL contract and like all employment contracts there are contractual obligations and turning up to training would be one. West Coast, North, Port will all have enough room in their cap to take the gamble and if he still wants to leave at the end of 2026, the Crows can trade for him.
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A number of slides were proposed. I don't know what you want Brisbane to do other than accept a junk offer. You have already admitted your offer was not fair. They won't use the third so lets take that out, you recon a pick near 35 is fair? So far it's all Brisbane's fault, what about the other club who didn't at any time propose anything that was near even fair.
He was never worth pick 16. That's unreasonable. But also think the onus was on Adelaide to find a middle ground rather than just sticking to their offer.
Will be a fascinating test for the pre-season draft and player movement in general. Alot of possible picks before Adelaide in the PSD. If he gets to them, it really says, that clubs simply won't take players that don't want to play for them, no matter what and probably tips the balance more towards the players in the future.
I wonder if Port have a crack? Same city. Position of need for them. They've got the cap space. And most importantly they can pick ahead of Adelaide.
Will be a fascinating test for the pre-season draft and player movement in general. Alot of possible picks before Adelaide in the PSD. If he gets to them, it really says, that clubs simply won't take players that don't want to play for them, no matter what and probably tips the balance more towards the players in the future.
I wonder if Port have a crack? Same city. Position of need for them. They've got the cap space. And most importantly they can pick ahead of Adelaide.
That's the point I was making, Its Win / Loss no matter which way it fell.
Alternatively, if WCE take him in the PSD it becomes Loss / Loss / Win
Elixuh
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Most clubs accept this is just part of the game and it’s kind of swings and roundabouts.
One season you’re losing and player and the next you’re gaining one.
So most clubs will work out fair value and get a deal done.
There is really only 2 clubs who seem to operate differently and that’s Essendon and Adelaide (post Gibbs).
Stop talking sense
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I don't know if the crows could of embarrased themselves more over the last 2 months. They certainly aren't carrying themselves like a professional team that will attract good people to their organisation moving forward. Their fans are pretty feral too which makes them an even shittier proposition to deal with.
Again, F2 was fair (had we offer F3 then the media would be giving us shit for not getting the trade done). A contracted ANB went for pick 28 just last year (his stats this year has been better than Ah Chee and we finished minor premiers), an uncontracted Ah Che is worth pick 30-35 which is the value of our F2.
He wants to be there for starters.
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Pick 30-35 next year is fair.
He is not going to sit out of the competition if he doesn't get to Adelaide. He is a pro.
Then he will front end the 1st year to $1.5M and 2nd to $500K, no club is going to pay a player $1.5M to be there for just one year. He will get to us if he still wants to.
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But why do they accept this, clubs are far too friendly.. If you had a player like Ah Chee I would just say we are not trading you to a top 8 side and that you either stay or negotiate a deal with a bottom 8 team.
This post clearly demonstrates that you have no understanding of the new dvi, let alone the new bid matching rules that come in to effect in 2026.
Your F2 & F3 isn’t worth close to 500 points.
Using this years current draft order, where compensation picks have been handed out, and for arguments sake you finished 6th, so have the 13 pick in the second round, that pick falls at pick 36, worth 317 points.
Your third round pick would fall at pick 56 and be worth 0 points.
And that’s before fathers son or academy bids start impacting the draft order.
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Why not, a club like West Coast who are they paying, an extra $500k means fck all and would take that into consideration when trading the following year.
