List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Been watching the footy stuff YouTube channel of his game highlights (only got my view off that) Seen some absolutely terrible kicks in there in terms of field kicking. Goal kicking seems ok. I know he’s a better prospect than Lindsay but I’d rather someone like Lindsay for our list

I think his biggest issue is his spacial awareness/timing more than anything. Clearly not used to playing as a full time mid after coming into the CTL late and starting as a KPF. Frequently runs himself into trouble with his kicking getting smothered frequently and his hands are a way off the best inside mids in comparison. When he's in space though his kicking is normally pretty strong imo.

He gets by through sheer athletic talent and basically being a battering ram but as a raw prospect he's got enormous upside. A pre season with AFL skills coaches instead of a pre season playing local footy for Rowville should make a fair bit of difference to that, or at least that's what we'd be hoping if we selected him.

 

[gbatman]

Walsh is a great centreman. Problem is he's the only threatening one so gets targeted each week. Opposition arent worried about the slow accumulators, they target Walsh. Need to add another quick threat in there to free him up.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Do you have selective amnesia?

Even the last two games this year when he came back. A healthy Walsh is a top line mid.

Just need to keep him healthy over the whole season.

 

[Soapy V]

Do you have selective amnesia?

Doesn’t mean he can’t be a gun wingman

I like it because it’s now a vital role. He can play wider and protect his body better

We have Cripps Hewett Lord Cerra plus Ainsworth etc that can do the mid work

 

[bradfisher14]

Doesn’t mean he can’t be a gun wingman

I like it because it’s now a vital role. He can play wider and protect his body better

We have Cripps Hewett Lord Cerra plus Ainsworth etc that can do the mid work

He could be a gun anything. I was responding to the part about him not being a good centre bounce mid.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Doesn’t mean he can’t be a gun wingman

I like it because it’s now a vital role. He can play wider and protect his body better

We have Cripps Hewett Lord Cerra plus Ainsworth etc that can do the mid work

I have faith a Chesser + Ollie combination would be quite potent in coming years so I'd rather get some game time into the two of them to iron out the kinks of playing a wing tandem.

Keep Walsh around the ball

 

[The Return of the Paf]

I think trading up depends on how well placed we think we are with trade/free agency targets.

If we think we're a realistic shot at Butters/Humphrey next off-season, we have to maintain our assets so that we're ready to make the deal happen.

I like Robey, but I like those two even more.

You don't know, though, do you? You are comparing an 18 year old who hasn't played an AFL game yet to two established players.

 

[No1Suspect]

Massive if we can pull it off. Midfield set for a decade and potentially elite

Walsh Jagga Walker Lord Ben Campo maybe Wilson & Butters

We move up and draft Robey then forget Butters or Humphries

 

[Soapy V]

I have faith a Chesser + Ollie combination would be quite potent in coming years so I'd rather get some game time into the two of them to iron out the kinks of playing a wing tandem.

Keep Walsh around the ball

I’m hopeful Ollie stays HB but who knows. We have Chesser Ollie Wilson Florent Saad Boyd Carroll Lucas Charleson Flynn Cottrell who can all now play that role or even Wing. Let form dictate

I just like that we have genuine options

Ison may be the wildcard and although unlikely some of Ainsworth best footy was at HB under Dew

As for Walsh I’m not a fan of his ball use from contest and I want to protect his back. I also want game time in middle into Lord Jagga BenC Moir maybe Robey next year

That’s just me

 

[bradfisher14]

You don't know, though, do you? You are comparing an 18 year old who hasn't played an AFL game yet to two established players.

Which is why my preference is to go chips in on Humphrey.

 

[The Return of the Paf]

We move up and draft Robey then forget Butters or Humphries

I wouldn't care... at any rate, who's to say we can't do a Tom De Koning for some midfielder?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

We move up and draft Robey then forget Butters or Humphries

Why's that?

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Which is why my preference is to go chips in on Humphrey.

Which is why I'm the opposite... would be cheaper to do and he could be anything.

 

[bradfisher14]

Why's that?

We surely wouldn't have the assets to match Cody/Dean/Ison, trade up for Robey, AND trade for Bear/Butters.

I know Austin is good but gee whiz that's pushing it.

Which is why I'm the opposite... would be cheaper to do and he could be anything.

Oh I see, I thought you were saying we shouldn't go for Robey because he is a less certain proposition.

I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him in, I just have my doubts about him and I don't have doubts on Bear or Butters.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

That's not gonna happen unless WCE are actually ran by muppets unfortunately

So what you’re saying is, it will happen

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I’m hopeful Ollie stays HB but who knows. We have Chesser Ollie Wilson Florent Saad Boyd Carroll Lucas Charleson Flynn Cottrell who can all now play that role or even Wing. Let form dictate

I just like that we have genuine options

Ison may be the wildcard and although unlikely Ainsworth best footy was at HB under Dew

As for Walsh I’m not a fan of his ball use from contest and I want to protect his back

That’s just me

Personally don't think Saad or Boyd have tanks to play wing, not by a long way.

Ainsworth at HB under Dew? That lasted two games and was after Dew had been fired while King was caretaker coach.

To me Ollie is clearly the player to take over from that spot if Acres has another season like he did in 2025. Cowan, Carroll and Wilson/Charleson down back with Florent, Newman and Saad as the senior heads next to them.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

We surely wouldn't have the assets to match Cody/Dean/Ison, trade up for Robey, AND trade for Bear/Butters.

I know Austin is good but gee whiz that's pushing it.

Oh I see, I thought you were saying we shouldn't go for Robey because he is a less certain proposition.

I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him in, I just have my doubts about him and I don't have doubts on Bear or Butters.

All depends on what the AFL do with the DVI changes if they ever bloody announce it.

End of next year we'll have two 2026 firsts, two 2027 firsts and a 2028 first to work some magic. If we were a live chance of getting one of Humphries or Butters we'd definitely be able to try and make something work with those picks + moving players if we had to.

Biggest challenge would to be in the frame to land one of them ahead of the other VIC clubs who will all be chasing just as hard.

 

[No1Suspect]

Why's that?

26s are for Cody, 27s get taken by Robey, so we'd be banking on a solitary 2028 1st rounder to get a deal done.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Personally don't think Saad or Boyd have tanks to play wing, not by a long way.

Tbh, I’m amazed Boyd is still on the list.

Just don’t see it with him.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

26s are for Cody, 27s get taken by Robey, so we'd be banking on a solitary 2028 1st rounder to get a deal done.

We wouldn't need 27s to get Robey. 2025s should be plenty if he goes in his projected range which is 5-8 at the moment.

The bid matching on Dean and Ison would need to get a bit creative but we certainly wouldn't get close to needing two 2027 firsts to get our 2025 business done even if we do trade up for a Robey/Lindsay/Grlj type.

 

[The Return of the Paf]

We surely wouldn't have the assets to match Cody/Dean/Ison, trade up for Robey, AND trade for Bear/Butters.

I know Austin is good but gee whiz that's pushing it.

Oh I see, I thought you were saying we shouldn't go for Robey because he is a less certain proposition.

I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him in, I just have my doubts about him and I don't have doubts on Bear or Butters.

No one has doubts on Butters but I do have some doubt on just how good the 'funny old fellow' is. I'd just prefer we'd back ourselves in for a few years to get ourselves up to speed. You saw just how much GC had to pay to get Petracca, and it wasn't pretty.

 

[Soapy V]

Tbh, I’m amazed Boyd is still on the list.

Just don’t see it with him.

Lloyd giving players that aren’t established 2 plus year deals. Managers walked all over him

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Tbh, I’m amazed Boyd is still on the list.

Just don’t see it with him.

Probably the best kick we have on our list in terms of pure talent, if he puts in the work on the rest of his game this off season I wouldn't be surprised to see him back in our team regularly like we saw in 2023/2024.

Realistically if he wasn't contracted he'd probably be gone though.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Probably the best kick we have on our list in terms of pure talent, if he puts in the work on the rest of his game this off season I wouldn't be surprised to see him back in our team regularly like we saw in 2023/2024.

Realistically if he wasn't contracted he'd probably be gone though.

He’s a nice looking kick, but he ain’t the best kick.

As for his game, he isn’t a lock down defender, doesn’t cover space & isn’t that good overhead either.

28 years old, others should get a chance.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Lloyd giving players that aren’t established 2 plus year deals. Managers walked all over him

Wouldn't that be Austin?