List Mgmt. 2025 Draft & Trade Thread - Picks 31, 32, 42, 60 and 71

[Ticky009]

 

[Bloods86]

So we payed unders for Curnow vs market value. That’s a wrap

Roos may not have been in the market.

 

[dosser]

I think we all forget that the reason an AFL club exists is to qualify for and retain good draft picks. We only play out the season to see who gets which picks. If you are premiers then you actually lose because you get the worst draft pick.

Honestly, draft picks are there to help you win a premiership. If you choose to spend them all on one player then who cares, if it helps you win?

 

[Kiama Chris]

We did draft Logan McDonald, or is he excluded?

Good point. No, definitely not.
Almost by accident mind you.
Going back that little further.

 

[SwansLifer]

I disagreed strongly with the pick based on having passed over KPFs and picking what seemed to be a speculative X factor option for medium fwd, over some more powerful, prolific types... but he needs to be given time before we can judge him as a player and whether the recruiters misjudged him, not just the type we needed more.

Agreed. I didn't like the pick but you can't be judged off 1 season. I don't have much faith in him TBH, but let's see. Sometimes all it takes is a bit of time finding your feet in a new situation and a fresh pre season without anything else going on.

 

[SwansLifer]

It's not the dumbest strategy by North to try and swoop in at the last moment.

Only 1 problem. Did anyone ask Charlie.

 

[Neverwas]

I enjoy reading your posts, but this is ridiculously (offensively) harsh!

He is calling a spade a spade. This administration is showing signs of decay and it needs to be called out.

 

[Neverwas]

As a result of the Wilbur and Ollie move, a female friend of mine who is a passionate 30 year Swans supporter, is pulling the plug on the Swans. She is outraged.

Absolutely loved Wilbur. I think that she is not alone. Their would be a lot of young female supporters who loved him, and a fair few older ones too. He presented a good image for the club. I wonder if the club considered this.

 

[SwansLifer]

As a result of the Wilbur and Ollie move, a female friend of mine who is a passionate 30 year Swans supporter, is pulling the plug on the Swans. She is outraged.

Absolutely loved Wilbur. I think that she is not alone. Their would be a lot of young female supporters who loved him, and a fair few older ones too. He presented a good image for the club. I wonder if the club considered this.

Yes. The club should 100% consulted your friend on whether or not to trade players. And because she is offended it was the wrong thing to do.

Did you ever consider we just gained 10x the supporters than we lost due to feelings.

 

[tombomb]

Only 1 problem. Did anyone ask Charlie.

He might have preferred North than going back to his current club. Same with Merrett.

No harm in trying.

 

[SwansLifer]

He might have preferred North than going back to his current club. Same with Merrett.

No harm in trying.

There were 2 main reasons of him getting out of Carlton though.
1 - Contending
2 - Out of Melbourne's footy bubble.

That's why it was GC, Geelong, Sydney.

 

[liz]

He is calling a spade a spade. This administration is showing signs of decay and it needs to be called out.

What is “this administration”? We have a newish senior coach, our long term head of recruiting is moving out (and we parted ways with the 2IC a year ago) and we have a brand new CEO.

 

[dosser]

What is “this administration”? We have a newish senior coach, our long term head of recruiting is moving out (and we parted ways with the 2IC a year ago) and we have a brand new CEO.

Come on Liz, let him be angry about something.

 

[liz]

As a result of the Wilbur and Ollie move, a female friend of mine who is a passionate 30 year Swans supporter, is pulling the plug on the Swans. She is outraged.

Absolutely loved Wilbur. I think that she is not alone. Their would be a lot of young female supporters who loved him, and a fair few older ones too. He presented a good image for the club. I wonder if the club considered this.

I liked Will too. I would prefer we’d not lost him. But he was hardly one of the faces of the club. And he never finished in our B&F top ten, reflecting the gap between his most and least impactful games.

 

[SwansProudly]

Thanks everyone for your comments. I am in the middle of a small skin cancer op and the debate has helped me pass the time.

And for the record - I am on the Cox train. I’m not 100% confident but I respect his right to make his mark on the team and look forward to seeing how it goes.

Hope all is on the improve.

 

[Dan87]

If the Tigers had taken Dattoli at 21, we would have taken Trainor at 22

If the Tigers had taken Jesse Dattoli, who was also under high consideration, the Swans would have grabbed Trainor. But Sydney had ranked the small forward Dattoli ahead of the taller Trainor and was glad he was available to them, having already tried to get in earlier to secure him.

Here's the whole article: https://www.afl.com.au/news/1260258...hind-the-scenes-at-the-2024-telstra-afl-draft

We didn't decide against taking Trainor (which is what you said) we didn't have a chance at picking him.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Agreed. I didn't like the pick but you can't be judged off 1 season. I don't have much faith in him TBH, but let's see. Sometimes all it takes is a bit of time finding your feet in a new situation and a fresh pre season without anything else going on.

I hate that we used this pick on him but Bowman seems a good kid, a decent player and a good clubman. Give him the best development and opportunities.

 

[tombomb]

There were 2 main reasons of him getting out of Carlton though.
1 - Contending
2 - Out of Melbourne's footy bubble.

That's why it was GC, Geelong, Sydney.

I understand Curnow probably wouldn't have any interest in going to North.

That wasn't the point.

 

[rustycrate]

Updated list.

• nine players traded and delisted
• 3 players traded in
• updated 2025 draft picks
• list of 2026 draft picks
• list of 2027 draft picks
• 3 main list spots
• 2 rookie A list spots
• 1 rookie B list spot

 

[wolftone57]

That’s a pretty bizarre take. There is not enough players and too many rucks….

Im not saying Dawson is vfl quality.

Don't you read; I said WITH A FEW TOPPIES (TOP UP PLAYERS)

 

[wolftone57]

Pick 3 is way more valuable than any of the firsts we gave away. We'd probably have to give up the 3 firsts we gave away to get pick 3 and even then it'd depend on who held pick 3 and who they rated in the draft as to whether they'd agree to it.

Who mentioned Pick 3? What the **** do we want pick 3 for? We need the lower pickS, 20 onward for our Academy Boys. I sad; THREE FIRST ROUND PICKS WE GAVE FOR CURNOW, 2025, 2026 AND 2O27 PLUS HAYWARD. We already had a 3rd rounder for Florent in a separate deal.

 

[wolftone57]

Does Adams have anything left in the tank?

I doubt it. He looked banged up every game last year. Far too slow.

 

[liz]

Who mentioned Pick 3? What the **** do we want pick 3 for? We need the lower pickS, 20 onward for our Academy Boys. I sad; THREE FIRST ROUND PICKS WE GAVE FOR CURNOW, 2025, 2026 AND 2O27 PLUS HAYWARD. We already had a 3rd rounder for Florent in a separate deal.

I think you’ve completely missed his/her point.

The term “first rounder” is bandied around as though all first rounders are equal. They are not.

 

[Wheresbuddy]

As a result of the Wilbur and Ollie move, a female friend of mine who is a passionate 30 year Swans supporter, is pulling the plug on the Swans. She is outraged.

Absolutely loved Wilbur. I think that she is not alone. Their would be a lot of young female supporters who loved him, and a fair few older ones too. He presented a good image for the club. I wonder if the club considered this.

As I said in an earlier post, there's plenty of fans hurting over this move. Besides Heeney, Oli and Wilbur are the favourite players of my 13 yo daughter. She is very angry at Cox and would fire him and Chris Keane if she could. I think Pridham acknowledged this by addressing the trade period directly with an open letter on social media.

But I can see what the club is trying to achieve and if Charlie can light it up in 2026, all will be forgiven very quickly. However, if we have another bad season, especially if it coincides with Charlie playing poorly or out with injury, I think pressure will build on Cox and co such that some heads will have to roll.

 

[liz]

Updated list.

• nine players traded and delisted
• 3 players traded in
• updated 2025 draft picks
• list of 2026 draft picks
• list of 2027 draft picks
• 3 main list spots
• 2 rookie A list spots
• 1 rookie B list spot

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We have choices in how we split the senior and rookie list. The last two spots on the list (ex Cat B rookies) can be either. I haven’t looked to see what assumptions you’ve made on the likely split, but a choice remains.

Given I can only think of three players on our rookie list at the moment - Hamling, Hanily and Edwards (B) - I presume you are assuming we’ll carry the maximum senior list. Given we’re obliged to draft at least three in the ND, I guess that’s a valid assumption unless we move some more onto the rookie list.

 

[rustycrate]

We have choices in how we split the senior and rookie list. The last two spots on the list (ex Cat B rookies) can be either. I haven’t looked to see what assumptions you’ve made on the likely split, but a choice remains.

Given I can only think of three players on our rookie list at the moment - Hamling, Hanily and Edwards (B) - I presume you are assuming we’ll carry the maximum senior list. Given we’re obliged to draft at least three in the ND, I guess that’s a valid assumption unless we move some more onto the rookie list.

Yep. I made the assumption.

They have not said Rampe and Lloyd are signed. Maybe because they go to the rookie list.
I dunno yet. I have to publish my list after changes happen so I have to make assumptions.

Thanks Liz.