Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

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[10571z]

Two things you'd never be capable of. But somehow you still view yourself above any 'black' or 'brown' person who has done so... because of your white supremacy ideology.

Would absolutely love to know how you came to that conclusion.

 

[Cyg1992]

Would absolutely love to know how you came to that conclusion.

The fact that you parrot every News corp talking point word for word, on every current issue seems to point exclusively to that conclusion.

A critical thinker, you ain't.

 

[10571z]

The fact that you parrot every News corp talking point word for word, on every current issue seems to point exclusively to that conclusion.

A critical thinker, you ain't.

Oh yeah? You think the bail was justified?

 

[Gralin]

Oh yeah? You think the bail was justified?

Are you basing this on what bail was granted for or what she did when released?

 

[GrayRanga]

Oh yeah? You think the bail was justified?

This thread is about Sudanese gangs

The attacker in this case, from my reading anyway. was a Caucasian female, living rough, with mental health issues who was on bail.

She attacked an Asian Woman, whose skin colour was closer to White than the average person whose racial origins are from the Sudan

So you believe that people with mental health issues shoudn't be released on bail? How long do you lock them up for?

Given your interest in bail for people only charged with a crime. you obviously have answers.

Have you costed these answers, checked whether they are in accordance with Victorian Law, Commonwealth Law. the Constitution or the even the basis of our legal system; Common Law.

I would believe that you have a fully reasoned treatise on changes to the Bail Laws that you have taken to your local member, or if you live in a non Labor seat, to the shadow Attorney General.

Possibly even both?

I await a precis to be presented so we can have a considered discussion about this isssue

In the interiem, I will continue to consider you to be a third rate troll who uses right wing racist and sexist comments to attempt get a rise out of people and which we can safely continue to ignore

 

[10571z]

This thread is about Sudanese gangs

The attacker in this case, from my reading anyway. was a Caucasian female, living rough, with mental health issues who was on bail.

She attacked an Asian Woman, whose skin colour was closer to White than the average person whose racial origins are from the Sudan

So you believe that people with mental health issues shoudn't be released on bail? How long do you lock them up for?

Given your interest in bail for people only charged with a crime. you obviously have answers.

Have you costed these answers, checked whether they are in accordance with Victorian Law, Commonwealth Law. the Constitution or the even the basis of our legal system; Common Law.

I would believe that you have a fully reasoned treatise on changes to the Bail Laws that you have taken to your local member, or if you live in a non Labor seat, to the shadow Attorney General.

Possibly even both?

I await a precis to be presented so we can have a considered discussion about this isssue

In the interiem, I will continue to consider you to be a third rate troll who uses right wing racist and sexist comments to attempt get a rise out of people and which we can safely continue to ignore

The race, gender, or background of offenders shouldn’t distract from a key issue, people who are charged with serious or violent offences regardless of who they are being released on bail and constantly reoffending at the expense of the INNOCENT PUBLIC. The public has a right to ask whether the current thresholds for denying bail are working as intended because any reasonable human would say they aren’t.

This isn't about locking up people with mental health issues indiscriminately, nor about ignoring the principles of presumption of innocence. It’s about addressing a very real and growing concern….people who pose a demonstrated risk to the community are being released, only to reoffend over and over while on bail. That undermines public trust in the justice system and why wouldn’t it?

Tighter bail laws don’t mean abolishing bail. It means setting firmer thresholds for high-risk individuals including repeat violent offenders or those already on bail for other offences to prove why they should be released, rather than automatically getting bail unless the prosecution can prove extreme risk.

The Victorian government has already acknowledged issues with our bail laws. Any law can be changed and even in extreme cases the constitution.

Ultimately, public safety must be the primary concern. If someone reoffends while on bail it means your system is broken. Because ultimately it’s there to not release highly dangerous criminals to do more damage.

 

[Gralin]

The race, gender, or background of offenders shouldn’t distract from a key issue, people who are charged with serious or violent offences regardless of who they are being released on bail and constantly reoffending at the expense of the INNOCENT PUBLIC. The public has a right to ask whether the current thresholds for denying bail are working as intended because any reasonable human would say they aren’t.

This isn't about locking up people with mental health issues indiscriminately, nor about ignoring the principles of presumption of innocence. It’s about addressing a very real and growing concern….people who pose a demonstrated risk to the community are being released, only to reoffend over and over while on bail. That undermines public trust in the justice system and why wouldn’t it?

Tighter bail laws don’t mean abolishing bail. It means setting firmer thresholds for high-risk individuals including repeat violent offenders or those already on bail for other offences to prove why they should be released, rather than automatically getting bail unless the prosecution can prove extreme risk.

The Victorian government has already acknowledged issues with our bail laws. Any law can be changed and even in extreme cases the constitution.

Ultimately, public safety must be the primary concern. If someone reoffends while on bail it means your system is broken. Because ultimately it’s there to not release highly dangerous criminals to do more damage.

What was she on bail for?

 

[CM86]

Would absolutely love to know how you came to that conclusion.

I mean I could go on for thousands of words.

 

[Gralin]

Oh yeah? You think the bail was justified?

What was she on bail for?

 

[10571z]

What was she on bail for?

It’s yet to be released. She is applying for bail again for this incident, she’ll probably get it

 

[Gralin]

It’s yet to be released. She is applying for bail again for this incident, she’ll probably get it

so you're complaining about the bail she was already on based on what she did after right?

 

[10571z]

so you're complaining about the bail she was already on based on what she did after right?

Yes.

 

[Gralin]

Yes.

Right so if you got picked up for vagrancy or public drunkenness or unpaid parking tickets you'd be happy to be held without bail?

 

[10571z]

Right so if you got picked up for vagrancy or public drunkenness or unpaid parking tickets you'd be happy to be held without bail?

Well of course she may have had a minor infringement and without knowing it’s not smart to jump to conclusions so you are correct but judging by previous Melbourne bail story’s we think the worst.

 

[Gralin]

Well of course she may have had a minor infringement and without knowing it’s not smart to jump to conclusions so you are correct but judging by previous Melbourne bail story’s we think the worst.

Everything before the but is meaningless

Maybe you should think about what you're pushing for

 

[10571z]

Everything before the but is meaningless

Maybe you should think about what you're pushing for

Oh yeah, what am i pushing for?

 

[Grin]

I went out for dinner last night, then to a bar and didn't get attacked by a single Sudanese gang. Not even once
I'm going into the city today. If the Liberal party and Sky After Dark are to be believed, and why would they lie about this, I'm bound to be bashed and stabbed before I get off the tram.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I went out for dinner last night, then to a bar and didn't get attacked by a single Sudanese gang. Not even once
I'm going into the city today. If the Liberal party and Sky After Dark are to be believed, and why would they lie about this, I'm bound to be bashed and stabbed before I get off the tram.

Rubbish. You were bashed by African gangs the minute you popped your head out like everyone else. I myself have been killed 6 or 7 times by African gangs and have had my organs harvested by the Chinese Communist Party and subsequently have been left as a brain in a jar communicating with the outside world through Elon's powerful brainwave-to-text AI.

Do not believe the multiculturalist social marxism lefty nonsense about us all being people. Their skin is different than yours and is dark. They simply don't belong, do they?

/ENDTRANSMISSION

 

[10571z]

I went out for dinner last night, then to a bar and didn't get attacked by a single Sudanese gang. Not even once
I'm going into the city today. If the Liberal party and Sky After Dark are to be believed, and why would they lie about this, I'm bound to be bashed and stabbed before I get off the tram.

Millions of American kids successful don’t get shot in their school everyday as well.

 

[Grin]

Millions of American kids successful don’t get shot in their school everyday as well.

Don't worry mate. I'm scared shitless of people with dark skin or slanty eyes. I agree that they should be treated as less than human. I feel very superior that people of my white race don't commit crimes. Ausie Ausie Ausie......

 

[CM86]

I went out for dinner last night, then to a bar and didn't get attacked by a single Sudanese gang. Not even once
I'm going into the city today. If the Liberal party and Sky After Dark are to be believed, and why would they lie about this, I'm bound to be bashed and stabbed before I get off the tram.

The best part of this entire thread, is that it's undoing the messaging of the Liberal party.

The reason the 'blacks are scary' messaging has worked so well for decades in QLD, NT etc is because of the racist voting bloc.

It's only had traction now in Vic, because they stopped talking about 'race', and actually talked about indiscriminate crime.
We all know they're talking about 'blacks and browns'. But the general public doesn't.
The racist bloc, like 10571z knows they're talking about 'blacks and browns'.
But the majority are just responding to bs disinformation around crime statistics.


Suddenly, the same racist bs talking points that have failed in Victoria for 20 years, are finding targets, because the messaging has worked out how to disguise itself.

 

[CM86]

not a kid or Sudanese but another random stabbing in Melbourne in October.

So, this is the wrong thread, right?

Unless you're giving me a great example of what I just tried to explain in my previous post. In that it's the hidden messaging that has the main support.

 

[Deliverance]

So, when they play for the Boomers or run at the aths world champs, they're Aussies, but when they commit a crime they're Sudanese?

 

[10571z]

Don't worry mate. I'm scared shitless of people with dark skin or slanty eyes. I agree that they should be treated as less than human. I feel very superior that people of my white race don't commit crimes. Ausie Ausie Ausie......

I mean it’s an inarguable fact Sudanese youth are committing crimes at a higher rate than just about every other group in Victoria.

I’m not sure where I’ve mentioned they should be treated less human.

 

[10571z]

The best part of this entire thread, is that it's undoing the messaging of the Liberal party.

The reason the 'blacks are scary' messaging has worked so well for decades in QLD, NT etc is because of the racist voting bloc.

It's only had traction now in Vic, because they stopped talking about 'race', and actually talked about indiscriminate crime.
We all know they're talking about 'blacks and browns'. But the general public doesn't.
The racist bloc, like 10571z knows they're talking about 'blacks and browns'.
But the majority are just responding to bs disinformation around crime statistics.


Suddenly, the same racist bs talking points that have failed in Victoria for 20 years, are finding targets, because the messaging has worked out how to disguise itself.

Wanting appropriate and effective action on Sudanese youth crime is now racist..

No wonder the left is being pushed out worldwide.