Analysis 2025 Draft watch

[Aphrodite]

 

[Skull Face]

Keen to hear people's thoughts on potentially pushing one of our firsts back to next year instead of grabbing another player this year (this assumes we can still land Dean and Ison, plus another academy kid late)?

This will give us more flexibility to in a year that a) we still aren't completely clear on what the matching process for Cody will be and b) gives us a better hand for the trade / fa period (eg Butters or Humphries etc).

Who would even be interested, doubt you could get a north to offer up 25 + 26 + f1 for 9+11, essendon 21 + 30 + f1?

Just not a draft people are keen to get into, the bombers are the only trade up option as well but they dont have the points coming back

 

[Sipahi]

Regardless of how it works out, we should be able to get a top-end talent + Dean, Ison, and Gresham right?

I think Josh Lindsay would be a great get. Adam Sweid is a player to watch out for aswell. Bombers will get him but would love to have him.

 

[katmanblue]

Regardless of how it works out, we should be able to get a top-end talent + Dean, Ison, and Gresham right?

I think Josh Lindsay would be a great get. Adam Sweid is a player to watch out for aswell. Bombers will get him but would love to have him.

Are the concerns about Lindsay's workrate a worry?

 

[Sipahi]

Are the concerns about Lindsay's workrate a worry?

Yeah I would say so, especially because we don't have a plethora of hard-working defensive players but his attacking capabilities by foot are tantalising. We have an excess of mids and there aren't too many great forwards in this draft. Archie Ludowyke is a not a bad option if they target a replacement key forward. But if they are looking to add a half-back, Lindsay would be my first choice.

 

[Stamos]

Regardless of how it works out, we should be able to get a top-end talent + Dean, Ison, and Gresham right?

I doubt we’ll be getting Gresham

 

[Bletch]

I doubt we’ll be getting Gresham

Agree. Unfortunately for Gresham, we now have an excess of small forwards. We're likely to be cutting both White and F Young, who could both be considered unlucky. If we've got a free spot after the national draft it would likely go to one of these two as a re-rookie ahead of Gresham.

 

[reubsblues]

Id much rather try and get wc melb north or ess
26 first Than trade up this yr, next yrs draft is way better

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Are the concerns about Lindsay's workrate a worry?

Definitely not. One of the most dedicated kids in the draft and works his ass off to get open. He's got a defensive tag most games he plays.

He'd be a great get if we can't sort out a way of trading ahead of Dean into the 4-6 range.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Are the concerns about Lindsay's workrate a worry?

The concerns are around his ability to win the contest, he doesn't tackle much. He's a pure outside prospect with really good kicking skills, vision and decision making. Not the quickest player but I wouldn't call him slow.

 

[V23]

The concerns are around his ability to win the contest, he doesn't tackle much. He's a pure outside prospect with really good kicking skills, vision and decision making. Not the quickest player but I wouldn't call him slow.

Sounds like exactly what we need. Can take over from Newman eventually.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Sounds like exactly what we need. Can take over from Newman eventually.

Pretty good comparison but Newy has a bit of an inner crazy man to his game in terms of competitiveness. Lindsay reminds me a lot of Mitch Duncan. Just a lovely outside user who can play on any line but never going to have the power or speed to his game to be a genuine superstar type talent such as Danger, Dusty etc.

Robey has the traits where he could end up at that sort of level but is also far more likely to end up a bust than someone like Lindsay who's good a very high floor to his game.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Sounds like exactly what we need. Can take over from Newman eventually.

Can't see him getting past Melbourne's picks.

If we were going to trade up, like most believe we will want to do, we'd be looking at Robey.

I like the kid, he has certainly caught fire and a massive bolter this year. Played finals series with a cracked collarbone and still stood out including kicking 4 goals in the grand final... Richmond won't let him get past them though imo...

 

[ctwenty1]

I like your thinking BF.

Putting aside the 27F1 and F2 swaps. if we traded 9 and 11 to WCE for picks 2, 34, 53, WCE gains 2,560 points and loses 2,869 points, ie. a net loss of around 300 points.

Not sure how keen WCE would be trading down for two Carlton picks and ending up with a nett loss of points especially after last year.

Points are somewhat irrelevant depending on who they want to pick up - not sure if they need points for academy kids.

They may prefer 3 early picks as opposed to two very early picks- idk

Depends on what we want- is be happy to trade for points and picks next year if we only want the two kids this yeat

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Points are somewhat irrelevant depending on who they want to pick up - not sure if they need points for academy kids.

They may prefer 3 early picks as opposed to two very early picks- idk

Depends on what we want- is be happy to trade for points and picks next year if we only want the two kids this yeat

Sorry ctwenty1 but why is it always implied around here that it's the first round or bust in regards to the possibility of adding a draftee to our obvious two targets? It gets my goat a bit because It comes across as a bit minimalist and reductive given what we've coughed up.

In regards to potentially shuffling our picks, why must the aim be singular?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Interesting to hear Robey in a recent interview saying that during a recent medical he was told his growth plates indicate he's still got another 2-3cm of growth left in him.

If that's true and he ends up 195cm he is going to be a genuine freak. Basically be Cripps size with explosive speed and power.

 

[Benaly28]

Watched Isons highlights very smooth left footer gives me Pendlebury vibes.

 

[Zlatan]

What position does Ison play and is he likely to get any starting games next season or a lot of development to go?

 

[V23]

Admittedly, I don’t know much about Robey, but trading three first-round picks for him seems… unwise. At least to me.

 

[LegendaryBlues]

Admittedly, I don’t know much about Robey, but trading three first-round picks for him seems… unwise. At least to me.

The reason the trade works is because even though Dean will be a first-round pick, his price can be made up with a bunch of somewhat later picks. Under normal circumstances you likely wouldnt consider it, but as long as you get enough points, the trade essentially becomes 9 and F1 for 2. The tough part is selling that to WCE, who currently need a lot of everything.

 

[Ninja Worrier]

The reason the trade works is because even though Dean will be a first-round pick, his price can be made up with a bunch of somewhat later picks. Under normal circumstances you likely wouldnt consider it, but as long as you get enough points, the trade essentially becomes 9 and F1 for 2. The tough part is selling that to WCE, who currently need a lot of everything.

The last interview I saw with Matt Clarke he seemed pretty intent on bringing in elite talent (using 1 and 2). The obvious money would be on Duursma and CDT

 

[Stamos]

Admittedly, I don’t know much about Robey, but trading three first-round picks for him seems… unwise. At least to me.

Assuming we’d be getting points back to cover Dean (which would be necessary for us to consider a trade), it would really be 2 first-round picks for Robey.
Still a lot to pay though.

 

[CoachB]

Question: If Dean is not Bid on before our Pick 9 or Pick 11, what's the scenario if we use those picks on other players and Dean is bid on at say 13? Do we have enough points to match? Would we even risk not picking him by 11?

TBH, I think Richmond at Pick 4 looms as our greatest risk, or WCE at 13.

sorry for your loss.

 

[katmanblue]

Sorry ctwenty1 but why is it always implied around here that it's the first round or bust in regards to the possibility of adding a draftee to our obvious two targets? It gets my goat a bit because It comes across as a bit minimalist and reductive given what we've coughed up.

In regards to potentially shuffling our picks, why must the aim be singular?

I think one of the reasons is the lack of list spots. We'd be less likely to make room for a speculative selection rather than a top rated talent.

If we were going in with 5 or 6 spots open, then I'd agree that looking later in the draft might produce a good return. But we are not.

 

[bradfisher14]

What position does Ison play and is he likely to get any starting games next season or a lot of development to go?

He's a very versatile player. I think he settles as an inside/outside mid, but he could play half-back, half-forward or wing.

I think he could debut quite early. His tank is not an issue.

 

[ESKIE]

He's a very versatile player. I think he settles as an inside/outside mid, but he could play half-back, half-forward or wing.

I think he could debut quite early. His tank is not an issue.

From the vids I've seen he looks in good nick, well built