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Delisted Callum Ah Chee - Joins Adelaide via the PSD

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mighty_lions said:
The points system isn’t just about academies and father sons, it’s a way of valuing what a pick is worth and then used to determine the value of a player trade ie

If player is valued at pick 20 but said club doesn’t have the pick, the points system determines what should happen, if you go back through trades from years ago clubs would just have to accept whatever the club has, this is not the case anymore
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No it’s not.

The points system has absolutely no relevance except for when dealing with academy or F/S selections.
 
mighty_lions said:
ah chee is a better play than Neal bullen and a year younger
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That's very arguable that Ah Chee is better than ANB. Dees let him go for being a good servant of the club, they probably took slight unders for ANB who was CONTRACTED and your club couldn't take a fair deal for an OUT OF CONTRACT player.
 
Doggy Dan said:
And there it is. The crux of this conversation - arrogance borne through winning, which was borne through handouts.

Plantation owners were also winners, sh*t blokes who took advantage of people, but winners👍
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I know we're all sad sacks posting here, but it probably being just a touch dramatic to be comparing AFL trading to American Slavery.
 
Br0ckyy said:
Imagine trying to flex when the afl has held your dick for the better half of 2 decades. Must be nice being able to pick up father sons with 100 games experience while also tapping into afl funded academies.
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Yes, it's been rather enjoyable
 

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Soggy2112 said:
No it’s not.

The points system has absolutely no relevance except for when dealing with academy or F/S selections.
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It’s also used to rubber stamp pick-only trades, or it was (I think the AFL likes to pretend that rule doesn’t exist at the moment, but they could crack down again in future).

As soon as a player is involved it goes out the window though, which makes it irrelevant to Callum Ah Chee
 
NeverEddie said:
You're suggesting northern clubs should be blocked from F/S? Seriously, what a ridiculous argument! It's not our fault the rules allow F/S and we happen to have had a few goods ones come through at about the same time. But I guess we were supposed to just "do the right thing" and ???? turn them away or something, because . . .unfair to the rest of the comp!!!

That's what your club would have done, right?

Anyway, I'm sure Tex has been spraying it around a bit though so you probably just need to wait a while.
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Wrong thread for it but there’s no reason with regard to competitive balance for teams not to have access to whatever players (academy/father-son) at any given point. The DVI is supposed to take care of that and it seems that it has with the latest changes. Teams that finish higher on the ladder simply don’t have the capital to raid contracted players and take father-sons and take academy players. They are having to choose and the remainder land elsewhere.
 
Moist Biscuit said:
That's very arguable that Ah Chee is better than ANB. Dees let him go for being a good servant of the club, they probably took slight unders for ANB who was CONTRACTED and your club couldn't take a fair deal for an OUT OF CONTRACT player.
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Make no mistake, Ah Chee would have already re-signed with Brisbane long ago if we were offering the same money as Adelaide... yes Ah Chee has connections in Adelaide, but that is not the reason he's leaving and missing out on the chance of a 3-peat.
 
Dom PC said:
Make no mistake, Ah Chee would have already re-signed with Brisbane long ago if we were offering the same money as Adelaide... yes Ah Chee has connections in Adelaide, but that is not the reason he's leaving and missing out on the chance of a 3-peat.
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You've spoken to Callum I take it and he told you?
 

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Kane McGoodwin said:
You think Ah Chee doesn't care that he is already on Adelaide's list with a life changing contract?

Sure he will get a good pay day, but the Lions have now made where he will be moving his young family uncertain for the next month. Great way to treat a 2x premiership hero, because the Lions wanted to get greedy over picks, because picks are worth less to you given you get so many cheap academy & father son talent.

He likely gets to the Crows, but in the eyes of most of the footy world, the Lions treatment of Ah Chee is awful to put him through a month of uncertainty.

He's uncontracted & was never staying despite the delusion of your list manager & many of your supporters who have failed to come to terms that he wanted to move on for his next challenge.

Lions are the big loser, because not only did they throw away a pick in the 20's or a future 2nd & 3rd rounder, they have damaged their reputation.
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What a load of rubbish! Ah Chee doesn't know where he's playing next year right now because Justin Reid refused to pay a fair price for him despite courting him for months before the season ended.
 
WalshistheGOAT said:
What a load of rubbish! Ah Chee doesn't know where he's playing next year right now because Justin Reid refused to pay a fair price for him despite courting him for months before the season ended.
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1st rounder isn't fair price.

Simples
 

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WalshistheGOAT said:
Uhh... yeah? As I said... Fair price.
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No, you said they wanted just a slide. They wanted more. Far more than market value, so getting greedy they lose him through the PSD.

Simples.
 
WalshistheGOAT said:
They asked for a pick slide not a first rounder outright. Stop fibbing.
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You are correct.

However, I have posted about 10 previous trades involving players of comparable age, ability and experience to Ah Chee, and not one of them involved a club giving up or moving their first round pick back in the order.

Based on precedent set, that would have been a big over pay from our end.
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
No, you said they wanted just a slide. They wanted more. Far more than market value, so getting greedy they lose him through the PSD.

Simples.
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Hmmm... I'm not seeing where I used this word. Either way, a 2nd rounder and a favourable pick slide is more than fair for a bloke who almost won a Norm Smith medal last year.

The Dogs were asking for a similar price for Buku Khamis ffs. Ah Chee is a class player.
 
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