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List Mgmt. 2025 AFL Draft - The Final Countdown

What Is Your Preferred Combination At Picks 3 & 4?


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Sharp should not be ruled out for our picks

He is a bloody good player that has elevated his game at every level he has played and is a ball pig with quick hands and hits his targets and a very very good leader with a good footy I.Q,.

People making alot about his pace but there are 2 things about speed and dont get me wrong i love players with speed
But the ball moves faster in the air than in peoples hands when running and when a player like Sharp can get it to a player in space then he has done his job and its upto the outside runners.

Also he is not turtle slow and if the rumours are correct about the 3.20 20mtrs are true its really not that much difference to Jagga and smillie - Also burst speed and tank can be improved as many players have done ( Bont / Cripps)

He is a 250+ game player and a leader that will be in his prime when Hopper/Taranto are finished and will be that Rock like Cripps , Brayshaw , Green , Neal for the next 15 years. Eagles would be mad not to take him with #2 and we would as well with the next pick.

Sharp is being extremely under rated on these boards but every clubs supporter wants him at a pick between 5-10
#4 is not a reach

Lalor - Smillie - Hotton - Robey - Sharp - Campbell thats a bloody good 6 midfield mix
Lets get the outside speed either as free agents or next year
 
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Taylor is much much more than just a half back flanker/ back pocket and would absolutely justify a top 5 pick.

He’s more a Josh Weddle type than anything else, and a 2022 re-draft would see Weddle a top 5 pick; and 2022 is also a vastly stronger draft that 2025.

We need to get out of the mindset that we draft a position. We draft a player. One who is good in the air, aggressive on the ground, with good agility and speed. He has attributes that would allow him to play multiple positions and multiple roles at AFL level.

He’s shown a glimpse of midfield potential, although the strength of Eastern was their midfield so didn’t get much an expansive run.

Not ahead of Duursma, CDT or Robey in the open pool. But he’d be close to the next highest talent ahead of Cumming and Sharp in my view.
Interesting.

Hope you’re right, although from what I have seen, he barely justifies a top 10 pick. More around 12-20. As others have said, you would need to show elite level’s and a big difference to our side from year 1 in that type of position. I just don’t think he even makes our team currently and for a top 5 pick, especially given our ladder position you would want a top 5 pick to slot straight in and basically do a Lalor - from game 1 you could already tell he’s going to be special.

To me, a broad replacement isn’t top 5 pick material. If we do select him, I hope I’m wrong and he becomes one of our most important players. After all that’s the minimum I’d expect from a pick 3 or 4.
 
If you think that then what of the VM and VC players who hardly fired a shot in the champs against SA?
I was referring to the fact that I don’t believe he made a successful transition to senior football (SAFL). He was ordinary. I’m not rubbishing his champs form, however, I doubt his credentials to become an excellent AFL player. He can’t bully his way through like he does in underage football. I think cumming showed better form in his couple of senior games.
 
If I were to go off Blair saying we want people who can stand up in big games, then I have a feeling we will pick Sharp. Especially with the supposed interest we have in him. Maybe our interest in CDT is a smokescreen, or perhaps it is genuine in the off-chance WC take Sharp and CDT falls to us. But I feel like if Essendon offer something good (and if it was a smokescreen), we will use that as an opportunity to fall back a bit and grab Grlj + Robey (or Taylor I guess).

Or if Essendon really want Robey, maybe they offer the same and we can take Sharp + Grlj while sliding back. If no offer comes, we may just take Sharp and Grlj anyway, with Robey less likely instead of Grlj. Not sure where Taylor fits into it since we are apparently strong on him, Grlj, Sharp and CDT. At least from what I've read on here lol.

Sharp + Grlj is my feeling of what might happen, hopefully with Essendon trading with us.

Of course I'll be totally wrong in the end. You'd think we take Robey since everyone considers him top 3, but no one's uncle's brother's friend's sister's boss who is friends with Hartley has said anything about our interest in him.
What is this supposed interest we have in sharp that you mentioned? I’ve heard no such thing. The club is very tight lipped and as far as leaking interest in Sharp goes, I think this is BS.
 

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What is this supposed interest we have in sharp that you mentioned? I’ve heard no such thing. The club is very tight lipped and as far as leaking interest in Sharp goes, I think this is BS.
It might be but been mentioned on other forums as well

I hope we do have interest
 
What is this supposed interest we have in sharp that you mentioned? I’ve heard no such thing. The club is very tight lipped and as far as leaking interest in Sharp goes, I think this is BS.
Tigerbob with the good oil on that one the other day.

As a rule of thumb, if tigerbob says something, it’s worth while listening.
 
I was referring to the fact that I don’t believe he made a successful transition to senior football (SAFL). He was ordinary. I’m not rubbishing his champs form, however, I doubt his credentials to become an excellent AFL player. He can’t bully his way through like he does in underage football. I think cumming showed better form in his couple of senior games.
Could not disagree more. Sharp will be a very very good player at AFL level. We’d be mad not to select him if he’s available.
Don’t get the love for Sam Cumming either, his kicking doesn’t look great. Much rather Sharp but each to their own. Guess we will find out what the recruiting team think in a few weeks time.
 
If we do actually intend on taking Taylor then a bid on Dean with pick #3 should be a must
We need to put them under pressure to match bids on Walker

I can see Essendon trading their picks in the 20's for Gold Coasts pick 15. (21 & 27)

I reckon Eagles aren't bluffing and will bid on Uwland at 2, Paterson at 3 and Dean at 4. Then wait to see if Essendon make the call for their pick, if not then pick Sharp.

We dangle the pick 5 CDT carrot in front of Essendon and end up trading that pick for bombers 1st pick and pick 15 (what ever it ends up being at the time)

We then bid on Annable, Lions match pick 6. We then take Robey & Taylor with picks 7 & 8.

We then have pick 15 and 38 (or what ever they are now with all the matched bids). With 4 spots left on our list and 2 now taken I can see us using our last pick on Kellaway irrespective of whether a bid comes because we will take an extra player that might fall early with Essendons pick they gave us from Gold Coast.
 
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I can see Essendon trading their picks in the 20's for Gold Coasts pick 15.

I reckon Eagles aren't bluffing and will bid on Uwland at 2, Paterson at 3 and Dean at 4. Then wait to see if Essendon make the call for their pick, if not then pick Sharp.

We dangle the pick 5 CDT carrot in front of Essendon and end up trading that pick for bombers 1st pick and pick 15 (what ever it ends up being at the time)

We then bid on Annable, Lions match pick 6. We then take Robey & Taylor with picks 7 & 8.

We then have pick 15 and 38 (or what ever they are now with all the matched bids). With 4 spots left on our list and 2 now taken I can see us using our last pick on Kellaway irrespective of whether a bid comes because we will take an extra player that might fall early with Essendons pick they gave us from Gold Coast.
Essendon would have an issue then to pickup their academy kids if they trade out the picks in the 20's
I think they would be looking to move up 5 with pick #27 or #21 but not both
But if CDT is available at #4 then would be fine to move back 1 spot for a Pick in the 27 range
 
Should make it so we can change our Votes.

I am on the CDT & Robey train now.

Robey & Taylor would be my 2nd choice.

I am off Grlj not because I don't think he will be a good player, but I don't think he warrants getting picked at our picks + speed & run can be addressed later, through trading... We are still early into the rebuild still think we need to go best talent available.
 
Should make it so we can change our Votes.

I am on the CDT & Robey train now.

Robey & Taylor would be my 2nd choice.

I am off Grlj not because I don't think he will be a good player, but I don't think he warrants getting picked at our picks + speed & run can be addressed later, through trading... We are still early into the rebuild still think we need to go best talent available.
agree, if we want someone like Grlj can and should get later in build, might be better and makes the build more productive. furthermore later we will know better what we want in terms of connection/synergy players

I think Hawks stuffed their build getting smalls too early in their semi build and are in no mans land even though they think the are in contention
 

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Sharp should not be ruled out for our picks

He is a bloody good player that has elevated his game at every level he has played and is a ball pig with quick hands and hits his targets and a very very good leader with a good footy I.Q,.

People making alot about his pace but there are 2 things about speed and dont get me wrong i love players with speed
But the ball moves faster in the air than in peoples hands when running and when a player like Sharp can get it to a player in space then he has done his job and its upto the outside runners.

Also he is not turtle slow and if the rumours are correct about the 3.20 20mtrs are true its really not that much difference to Jagga and smillie - Also burst speed and tank can be improved as many players have done ( Bont / Cripps)

He is a 250+ game player and a leader that will be in his prime when Hopper/Taranto are finished and will be that Rock like Cripps , Brayshaw , Green , Neal for the next 15 years. Eagles would be mad not to take him with #2 and we would as well with the next pick.

Sharp is being extremely under rated on these boards but every clubs supporter wants him at a pick between 5-10
#4 is not a reach

Lalor - Smillie - Hotton - Robey - Sharp - Campbell thats a bloody good 6 midfield mix
Lets get the outside speed either as free agents or next year
I agree. Menadue was quick, Hunt had leg speed, Markov had elite speed across the deck, Butler was quick etc… These were some of the most criticised players on this forum.

Some of my favourite Tigers weren’t quick across the turf: Tuck, Jackson, Lambert

If you haven’t got leg speed, you need to be a quick decision maker, need to make the right decision with ball in hand and need solid skills. Another feature of being an elite an athlete, is that you need to be mentally resilient and a good teammate.

From what we hear, Sharp has many of these qualities. His old man was also a very solid local footballer. I’d be curious to know whether his Dad lifted any premiership cups
 
Exactly, and he’s been the dominant junior for two years. Always take best available and Sharp has been the best.
This time last year he was all the rage.Hadn't changed during this year.Kept his form and dominated in the champs.
I think W/C are mad not taking Duursma and Sharp TBH.
 
Tigerbob with the good oil on that one the other day.

As a rule of thumb, if tigerbob says something, it’s worth while listening.
Except for that time he wanted Dimma sacked and disappeared for two years.
 
Also, just a question I have. What is Blair's drafting history? I know he is worshiped here and that's made me love him too, but what's his actual track record? I'm interested to know
Obviously your not a fan.
Otherwise you'd know he's not the one calling the shots on draft night.
 

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I was referring to the fact that I don’t believe he made a successful transition to senior football (SAFL). He was ordinary. I’m not rubbishing his champs form, however, I doubt his credentials to become an excellent AFL player. He can’t bully his way through like he does in underage football. I think cumming showed better form in his couple of senior games.
SANFL form won't have any bearing.
Recruiters would have all they need too know over the past 3yrs.
I'd be happy if we take both Sharp & Cumming.
 
Couple of things with Sharp and SANFL.

1. His team play a very direct low possession brand of footy.
2. He plays mostly half forward and has been trying to showcase/develop an outside game this year. He hasn't been out there trying to get 30+ in an inside role to show what everyone knows he can do.
 
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