List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

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Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

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[random260]

Now that draft day is getting closer.

Somebody ITK let us know when you know who we are taking at two. That so I know whether I need to waste my time to tune in or not.

I don't to watch the destruction of this footy club on live TV. I am not an bystander to this...

Last time we were told beforehand that Harley was a lock since we have 1 and 2 it should be the same.

When is the leaking starting????

Surely we are having the convo with the draftees we are going to select like Harley. Will it be leaked out before draft day? I cant imagine the draftees not being told beforehand especially at pick 2

Need to know so I can determine if I should watch or not

 

[txbyhull]

Depends on the club, but you hear of clubs like Richmond last year only 100% confirming with Lalor the day before the draft. Can only imagine its even harder for clubs further down the board to commit

 

[ThePuma #9]

I think we need to look beyond the next couple of years. For me, it comes down to what roles we need to fill and what opportunities we're going to have to fill them.

CDT will be a unicorn. In most drafts, you would take him and figure the rest out later.

But we have three top-5 picks left to figure out a long-term midfield that consists of Reid and maybe Hewett. I say maybe as I think he'll hold his own there but if we find better midfielders, he'll be great rotating off half forward.

If we could guarantee finding a midfielder like Sharp next year, we take CDT this year. If not, Sharp is our guy this year.

I think a high quality transition mid is going to be easier to find over the next couple of drafts than what either CDT or Sharp offer.

Valid points but perhaps we don't need to draft said midfielder. We may end up trading for one or we may very well feel like we don't need a midfielder like Sharp.

Perhaps the club sees Dev and others like him as adequate enough and we are looking for a different type of set up in the middle.

I love Sharp and would be rapt if we select him but i don't think he is the be all and end all of our midfield improving and becoming premiership caliber. It's still going to need additional pieces.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Put Duursma back there, whoever we draft at pick 13, maybe Dewar, maybe Maric gets another go- he might be better at defending after another pre-season learning defence.

We have other players

We need McCarthy even more in the middle

Dewar is a softc*ck, Maric is not a defender.I believe his best footy came early when played forward.
Dursma I agree but huge ask straight up to be the man!

 

[paran]

Addinsall can football and is a pig but he's a smaller low hurt factor type. Very much in that second group of mids.


Matt Rosa gets a statue at Lathlain if he does this.

I think his hurt factor better than Sharp and his disposal cleaner. I'd add escapabiluty as a plus too over Sharp. Sharp needs to develop more strength to power through or better disposal / hurt factor. I see Annable, Uwland, Addinsal as more likely to translate to successful AFL plus mids than Sharp. Guys like Worpel, Jhye Clark, Wade Phillips, Koby Stevens, jake Hopper, Will Brodie, Valente, Dow, Constable, etc are a dominant inside junior mids who didn't translate as expected to AFL. Sharp isn't risk free.

 

[Barrybran]

Valid points but perhaps we don't need to draft said midfielder. We may end up trading for one or we may very well feel like we don't need a midfielder like Sharp.

Perhaps the club sees Dev and others like him as adequate enough and we are looking for a different type of set up in the middle.

I love Sharp and would be rapt if we select him but i don't think he is the be all and end all of our midfield improving and becoming premiership caliber. It's still going to need additional pieces.

Dev is more than likely a stopgap. A bit like Young in that it fills a need and buys us time to draft and develop a replacement player. The problem with trying to trade for someone is we would be relying on a player of need being available and willing to come across at the right time and price. It's pretty unlikely to be honest.

 

[##VICEAGLE##]

went back and watched a few games of last season. fitness big issue , 1st halves of quarters, the run carry , hitting targets, in most games was there. pressure not so much. but besides fitness ,Leadership was the biggest issue . The player who’s stood up and said come with me boys let’s do this come with me? (Reid ,Baker a few times kelly )did this last year but when they were tagged or couldn’t get into the game we struggled big time.

so this draft for mine ,leadership , 1st possession and accumulation should be our goal.my view on drafting is
with current picks
best available 1st pick (Duursma)
2nd pick need. ( Sharp )
3rd speculative or project or next best available (Dovaston) pressure, scoreboard ,impact ,endurance.

Cdt could be a good player but with both williams ,flynn ,a reid and barnett.he is a luxury not a need

if we could spilt 2 + for 5&6 +and 13 + for 9 + and come out of draft with

1)Duursma
5)Sharp
6)Robey /cummings
9)Dovaston / Farrow or trade out for latter picks to secure nga or f/s ,using 5 picks ,or future 1st and only use 4 picks banfield as f/s not matching williams

there,s not many times when you draft 5 players that all 5 make best 22 and are still around in 5 years.


Side note to the person who mentioned beau addinsal. watch some highlights, a lot of lochie Neale in his play . respect good spot could be an option as gold coast would be out of points

 

[Peptide Pig]

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[Obeanie1]

lol

Wow!

Chance Schubert may be off the board already, but we also have no need for a KPF if we draft CDT, or a ruck, and there’s much higher quality KPD of genuine size next year in Stirling and Mathews-Hampton. I don’t see Thredgold as being much more than a C grade AFL third tall if he doesn’t grow. If he was a 197+ then absolutely he’d be a fantastic lock down tall, but he’s not.

You’ve just said the same thing twice mate

I said there’s no one “that good” which I find to be mostly true. A lot of this mid to late teens class would be bonafide second rounders in the last 2 years and next year. I hope that there’s some hidden gems definitely, but at the time of the draft that’s just not how it projects. I’d much rather an F1 and guarantee Williams, Banfield AND Evans / a late slider like a Rodriguez or a Curtin. I think in the aggregate that’s just a better result than some of these guys

Bookmarked.

Nothing worth taking from 13.

No need for another KP forward if we take CDT. When in the draft I posted we didnt take CDT. What exactly is your point here? So we do need another KP forward, Reid may end up elsewhere on the ground not playing forward.

Schubert will likely be gone by 13, would need to tade down to land him potentially.

Players well worth 13 - 16 IMO include Dovaston, Farrow, Marsh, Phillapou, Baker or Theadgold.

Time will tell.

 

[txbyhull]

Bookmarked.

Nothing worth taking from 13.

Not what I said at all. There's no one in my opinion outside of the 3 that I named that would impact for us enough for me to prefer that over an F1.

No need for another KP forward if we take CDT. When in the draft I posted we didnt take CDT. What exactly is your point here? So we do need another KP forward, Reid may end up elsewhere on the ground not playing forward.

I think that if we draft CDT as a Ruck / KPF then the plan long term is to have him and Reid rotate through the Ruck / KPF in 5 years time. In that even we still have a front 3 structure of Reid/CDT, Shanahan, Waterman. Don't think we need Schubert there unless we think he's a CHB long-term. If we do not draft CDT then sure take Schubert, but I think the chances of that being the case are probably slim.

Schubert will likely be gone by 13, would need to tade down to land him potentially.

Would not be wanting that to happen, paying extra for a player thats not any better than the other talent around there.

Players well worth 13 - 16 IMO include Dovaston, Farrow, Marsh, Phillapou, Baker or Theadgold.

I think it just depends on how people view the list. Dov yes, Farrow sure but I am low on his mid transition over Bo, Marsh is great but plays the Waterman role right now (could be a wing), Pou Jr I'd rather take the Saints F1, Barker is great, Thredgold you'd hope he grows a bit as his talent is more so actual defending than the skills that a Weitering or in this class Dean has by foot.

Time will tell.

Totally, as I said previously I'd love for this draft to end up being great.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

 

[ArdentEagle]

This circular debate has been raging and the are those who want to split 2.

I still thing we can move up from 13 and get all 3 of WD, CDT and DS.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Waiting for nxt year to hopefully draft mids faces the fact that we may rise up the ladder and end up with pick 5,6,7,8,9?? Who knows what that gets you?
I hope we get Sharp but if we don’t then we just get behind the club and soldier on!
I was very keen on a Hewett/ Phippipou double back then. We got Ginbey instead. Just got lucky eh??

 

[Barrybran]

This circular debate has been raging and the are those who want to split 2.

I still thing we can move up from 13 and get all 3 of WD, CDT and DS.

How do you see us achieving this?

 

[Obeanie1]

In fairness we haven’t had a lot of success picking and developing mids the last 18 or so years.

Shuey, Reid….. crickets……


We’ve had to poach to get the likes of yeo and redden.

Yet we won more flags than most.

Dont get access to gun academy mids.

Havent been lucky to land gun father son since Cousins.

And havent held too many top 5 picks to use on mids, Naitanui and Gaff.

Jury is out on our recent pick splits.

 

[rise023]

I’m surprised Farrow is so far down everyone’s list even for pick 13

Managed to accumulate a lot of the ball in the wafl stints, great kick and top 10 in agility.

He played a lot of mid time and was probably hurt by the WA team being pretty poor

I think he has a higher ceiling than Sharp due to the athletism. Dawson and Hayden Young

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started as tall penetrating kicking half backs and are now A grade mids.

Plus no 18 year old will come in and be a starting inside mid.

Would be elite If we came out the draft with:
Duursma
CDT
Farrow

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

13 for St Kildas first?! Could very well be swapping 13 for something like 13 with a year of development lost. We can’t keep kicking the can down the road

 

[stallon]

Dewar is a softc*ck, Maric is not a defender.I believe his best footy came early when played forward.
Dursma I agree but huge ask straight up to be the man!

Imo Maric was ok in d50, he just needs to be a bit braver, thats for the club to decide if he can be better.

Dewar I think can do it, but again needs to learn some defensive craft.

Point is we have other players with decent disposal who can bring some of the offensive prowess McCarthy has.

Our offensive defender options are better than our outside/transition mid options.

Agree itd be a huge ask for Duursma to be our d50 rebounder, but ideally we have a transition mid can go to CBAs, McCarthy is the only option really

 

[Astro7]

Yet we won more flags than most.

Dont get access to gun academy mids.

Havent been lucky to land gun father son since Cousins.

And havent held too many top 5 picks to use on mids, Naitanui and Gaff.

Jury is out on our recent pick splits.

Is that jury still out? Not wishing to rip the scab off an old wound here, but we got Baker, Owies and pick 12 - who did we get with pick 12? And who would we have got for Pick 3?

 

[stallon]

You serious?

That midfield is atrocious and would be steamrolled week in, week out.

It might not be good, but its very competent.

Literally the best player in the comp in there, plus at worst a couple of B-graders and role players

 

[stallon]

Yes I think that's the worst midfield in the comp. I also think it's extremely unlikely Harley is still here if that's our midfield.

We are still drafting midfielders.
Duursma, Banfield, Evans add to the mix this year, then who knows what happens in 2026 onwards

 

[stallon]

We need McCarthy where he plays best, delivering the ball out of our backline. Heres a novel idea, how about we leave the very good defenders where they are and just bring in some better midfielders to play in the midfield

Or leave the good midfielders(McCarthy) where they are and bring in some of the abundance of half backs we have to play in defence!

 

[Shueygod]

Is that jury still out? Not wishing to rip the scab off an old wound here, but we got Baker, Owies and pick 12 - who did we get with pick 12? And who would we have got for Pick 3?

Of course the jury’s still out, it was an even draft last year. If one or both of Allan and Gross turn out to be good-great players the trades fine.

 

[stallon]

If Dovaston is gone then I’d do 13 and F4 (WDB) for 50, F1 and F3 although Barker and Lindsay I am 50/50 on as to whether it would be better to take them or the F1.

want the full death ride again?

 

[Proeagle]

Imo Maric was ok in d50, he just needs to be a bit braver, thats for the club to decide if he can be better.

Dewar I think can do it, but again needs to learn some defensive craft.

Point is we have other players with decent disposal who can bring some of the offensive prowess McCarthy has.

Our offensive defender options are better than our outside/transition mid options.

Agree itd be a huge ask for Duursma to be our d50 rebounder, but ideally we have a transition mid can go to CBAs, McCarthy is the only option really

Maric showed zero defensive skills. Sure he had a few decent goal kickouts but needs to improve a lot as far as I am concerned to be considered a defender. And when looking at our team, I wouldnt have him as a starting defender.
Hough, Edwards, Ginbey, then Starc, Young, Baker/Yeo are easily our best defensive lineup.

Dewar had some good games on the wing and went missing a few times but I want to see him persevered with on the wing for a bit longer. We dropped him pretty quickly. McCarthy would make a great winger but I hope we try him more in the middle. Failing that next year, McCarthy would obviously be a great HB. Duursma in his first year would be HF or HB occasionally and hopefully a few minutes in the middle.