List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[stallon]

With Ryan leaving, I think it’s time to end the Maric to defence experiment.

Move him back to the forward line as a leading 3rd tall. He can use his great field kick, hitting up targets in the F50.

He looks lost in defence. Tries to play like Hurn but has nowhere near his defensive ability and we have Starcevich for that role now.

Id rather play Hutch in f50 as a defensive hff/3rd tall

Along with Waterman/Shanahan/A.Reid(or CDT) and 2 smalls + a mid to make 7

 

[WCE777]

An outside mid Ultility type and two speculative picks is going to help our midfield woes? We need a grade midfield talent the type you get in top5 /10

Totally agree.
Cumming is probably the best balanced mid after Annable, he should also be in our mix of top 3-5 talents.
The season highlights package put up today by noobermench is worthy of a watch.
Sharp is by far the best inside mid, Cumming is the best balanced mid available in the open pool of players.
Duursma, Sharp, Cumming would be a dream draft.

 

[Barrybran]

Hutchinson in that forward role for mine, Hutchinson in the midfield experiment needs to end for good

Hutchinson was alright as a CBA mid. He was just very raw in that role.

 

[InTheWings]

Hutchinson was alright as a CBA mid. He was just very raw in that role.

And he lost a lot of confidence last year, which resulted in him often second-guessing himself and making errors, I suspect he wouldn't usually make.

 

[Elite Pete]

Fact is, for the vast majority of the list we really don't know what we have yet.

Some posters here like to make bold statements about the ability/ceiling of players like Hewett, Allan, Dewar, Brockman, Hough, Maric, Hall and so on.

I don't even think the coaches would be 100% confident in making calls on what these players can become and where they play their best footy, yet we have so many here who think they can see the future and are better positioned to make definitive statements than the people who spend every day mentoring them.

I feel the reason for all the anxiety around here regarding where the list is headed, is down to the fact that its largely a developing list and there are just so many unknowns...particularly with our midfield. With a little more time and further development, we will know more but I think its important not to fall into the trap of dismissing what we have and wanting to keep piling mids on mids until we've overcorrected.

We have Duursma (outside leaning who we would hope transitions inside too), Banfield (balanced) and Evans (inside/fwd) who are near certanties to join our midfield next year. We also have Dev and 3 more extra rookie spots to fill, likely at least one more mid from those 3 spots too. ON TOP of who we already have developing. McCarthy as a midfielder next year. There are only so many spots to fill in the middle.

I can see why the club would be wanting to take the two best talents in this draft with one & two, instead of reaching for another inside mid. Now having said that, if we do end up taking Sharp the club clearly rates him and I trust them to make the right call. I will trust them if they don't take him too.

Just remember though, we don't know what we have yet. Maybe pumping the breaks and taking a breath is the best thing for now.

The thing is we don’t have those pure mid players to even over correct.

Hewett, Harley, McCarthy clearly can play in other positions so drafting mids won’t really effect them and if it does it’s likely a good thing these blokes are able to play a percentage forward or off half back flank.

Duursma has shown the play all over the ground if he is an Eagles next year.

IMO Hall and Kelly are the only two on the list that if they are playing they pretty much have to play in the midfield or they don’t play. Hall is a question mark to even make the level and Kelly’s likely in his last two years.

If we went 4 x Dyson Sharp types in this draft that would be over correcting but it’s not the case. We ‘might’ take 1 that most would see struggle playing anywhere else at an high level in the afl. Even Cumming has an outside game that could be damaging around the ground and in front of goal

 

[Peptide Pig]

This thread has started to turn to sh1t - ever since the contracts thread was closed. It was rightfully closed as all the trades and contracting has been done and we are now only drafting or signing. No complaints to our Mods.

When I first asked Keys to seperate the threads, it was to avoid Briskent and a bunch of eaglekents tediously going on and on with a point somehow believing multi quoting over and over again the same old crap believing another 10 pages will convince others or prove a point.

The draft only thread was informative and I received a load of thanks that it had made a huge difference.


What is it like this last week? My analogy is that someone wants to take Sydney Bernice Sweeney on a date but others put her down because she is blond. Meanwhile there are those wanting to take Ana Celia de Armas Caso on a date and are ridiculed because she is Cuban. All these input yet very few here bother going to games, very few talk to their U18 development coached and very few have been involved in drafting or U18 coaching.


The emotion on the board is odd - neither Massey or Clarke are going to take our input no matter how many times it is multi quoted and played back time and time again. This is meant to be fun not combative. . Maybe we could be more civil to each other. It has been a bloody long and difficult 3 years. We have a great draft hand. Like the Melbourne Cup, we all think we know how to pick a winner.


As Guru Bob once said
“You can pick your friends
You can pick your nose.
But you cannot pick your friend’s nose”
Courtesy of the Could of been champions

So when there’s page after page of obsessed Sharp fanatics circle jerking it’s all good, but as soon as a couple of posters add some logic and balance to the equation by pointing out the flawed thinking in taking Sharp at pick 2, then ‘the thread has turned to sh1t’.

Give us a spell. You have a blinkers on for Sharp just as much as anyone on here. And your suggestion for others to be civil, you get snarky just as quickly as anyone if your view is not agreed with. As another poster, pointed out- pot, meet kettle.

It’s been refreshing to see the Sharp lovers get called out for their narrow-minded takes. Even Robey has finally got a couple of mentions, a guy who posters like yourself have refused to acknowledge despite him being rated right around our hitting zone. Instead banging on about a guy who is barely rated inside the top 10.

CDT at 2 looks like the way it will go, but if not him then Robey is next up. If we want Sharp we will split and grab him later where he is actually rated and will still be available. If he slides and we can get him at our third pick then great.

The club would need to dislocate every bone in its body to reach so far to take Sharp at pick 2.

 

[txbyhull]

So when there’s page after page of obsessed Sharp fanatics circle jerking it’s all good, but as soon as a couple of posters add some logic and balance to the equation by pointing out the flawed thinking in taking Sharp at pick 2, then ‘the thread has turned to sh1t’.

Give us a spell. You have a blinkers on for Sharp just as much as anyone on here. And your suggestion for others to be civil, you get snarky just as quickly as anyone if your view is not agreed with. As another poster, pointed out- pot, meet kettle.

It’s been refreshing to see the Sharp lovers get called out for their narrow-minded takes. Even Robey has finally got a couple of mentions, a guy who posters like yourself have refused to acknowledge despite him being rated right around our hitting zone. Instead banging on about a guy who is barely rated inside the top 10.

CDT at 2 looks like the way it will go, but if not him then Robey is next up. If we want Sharp we will split and grab him later where he is actually rated and will still be available. If he slides and we can get him at our third pick then great.

The club would need to dislocate every bone in its body to reach so far to take Sharp at pick 2.

I’d like to point out that if I replaced every CDT with Sharp and every Sharp with CDT that it sounds exactly the same way. You’re not really breaking any new ground here brother. My main issue with the people that bemoan a Sharp pick and champion a CDT pick is that they’re A). Usually completely off base with some takes, mainly saying he’s a shit kick (little bit the speed but that’s whatever, it’s not a trait he’s great with so fair game). And B). Got a superiority complex that just because it’s what the club is probably going to do means then suggesting they should look elsewhere is seen as ridiculous to even suggest.

It’s not a reach for anyone that’s actually watched him. The people that yell Sharp is rated in the 6-10 range are ignoring that in a fair couple of form guides and mocks CDT is also slipping lately. You can find a source for almost every opinion, so I personally hate this argument point. Form your opinions

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

The thing is we don’t have those pure mid players to even over correct.

Hewett, Harley, McCarthy clearly can play in other positions so drafting mids won’t really effect them and if it does it’s likely a good thing these blokes are able to play a percentage forward or off half back flank.

Duursma has shown the play all over the ground if he is an Eagles next year.

IMO Hall and Kelly are the only two on the list that if they are playing they pretty much have to play in the midfield or they don’t play. Hall is a question mark to even make the level and Kelly’s likely in his last two years.

If we went 4 x Dyson Sharp types in this draft that would be over correcting but it’s not the case. We ‘might’ take 1 that most would see struggle playing anywhere else at an high level in the afl. Even Cumming has an outside game that could be damaging around the ground and in front of goal

My take on it is that if there was a pure mid in this draft that absolutely demanded to be taken with picks 1 or 2, then by all means take him. I would not be opposed to that whatsoever.

What I'm less sure on (and I mean less sure, not staunchly against as I don't claim to have absolute knowledge on the way players will develop) is taking a player like Sharp with pick 2 in this draft. I'm the type of person who values someone like a CDT or even a Robey for that matter, if push comes to shove, more than a meat and potatoes mid like Sharp with such a high pick.

It's also my belief that we're at a stage that we can't really tell who among our list is going to step up and fill the contested mid void yet. That doesn't mean that we don't already have that player on our list, just that we're not far along enough to have the answer. If I had to put my nads on the line, I'd say McCarthy and whoever we take on as a rookie will surprise a few posters. Our midfield mix in 2026 is going to look a lot different to 2025 and I would take that to the bank.

I just don't think Sharp or no Sharp is going to be the lynch pin on which the entirety of our list build is reliant upon. Agree with me or don't. Differing opinions are what makes BigFooty an interesting place to chat footy.

 

[Underdog]

The thing is we don’t have those pure mid players to even over correct.

Hewett, Harley, McCarthy clearly can play in other positions so drafting mids won’t really effect them and if it does it’s likely a good thing these blokes are able to play a percentage forward or off half back flank.

Duursma has shown the play all over the ground if he is an Eagles next year.

IMO Hall and Kelly are the only two on the list that if they are playing they pretty much have to play in the midfield or they don’t play. Hall is a question mark to even make the level and Kelly’s likely in his last two years.

If we went 4 x Dyson Sharp types in this draft that would be over correcting but it’s not the case. We ‘might’ take 1 that most would see struggle playing anywhere else at an high level in the afl. Even Cumming has an outside game that could be damaging around the ground and in front of goal

Our only two A-grade mids in our 2018 premiership team were Yeo and Shuey. Neither were pure mids. Redden was, but he wasn't an A-grader.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

People also need to stop arbitrarily grading midfielders with letters of the alphabet as it adds nothing to your argument and only contributes to the circular arguments on this thread.

 

[paran]

Doesn’t this fly against what Sharp has said publicly? These kinds of “whispers” carry no weight with me.

Probably Harley Reid's uncle again, that bloke gets around...

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

You don’t build a tank during the season, that’s what pre-seasons are for.

Can't remember who the interview was with on SEN recently, but they said exactly what you posted.

Because the modern game is so physically taxing, the week during the season is spent largely on recovery. Most players lose conditioning as the season goes on because they just can't do the work during the week AND get up for the game on the weekend.

Add to that how short the actual off-season is, and any player who has an interrupted pre-season will struggle throughout the year to get up to the standard required. The interviewee went on to say that those players who let their hair down during their down time and don't maintain a strick fitness schedule likewise struggle to see out the year in top condition. I.e. Football is now a 12 month a year job!

Explains not only Hewett struggling to play out games, but also why Harley never really hit the form we were all hoping to see. One had an interrupted pre-season, the other enjoyed his off-season a bit too much.

 

[BeornJ]

You serious?

That midfield is atrocious and would be steamrolled week in, week out.

Add Dev to that and it's dynasty level

 

[Astro7]

From memory, according to Phil we were going to pick Harvey Langford with our first pick.

It's too early to say how Allen is tracking IMO.
Just haven't seen enough of him yet.

Agree, but at a guess, there's more upside than downside...

 

[Astro7]

My take on this whole shootin' match is that none of this has any influence on the outcome, and the selectors will take what they can get, and that's what we'll end up with at the end of the day, like it or lump it! A looong train in vain.

 

[WCEswift]

Can't remember who the interview was with on SEN recently, but they said exactly what you posted.

Because the modern game is so physically taxing, the week during the season is spent largely on recovery. Most players lose conditioning as the season goes on because they just can't do the work during the week AND get up for the game on the weekend.

Add to that how short the actual off-season is, and any player who has an interrupted pre-season will struggle throughout the year to get up to the standard required. The interviewee went on to say that those players who let their hair down during their down time and don't maintain a strick fitness schedule likewise struggle to see out the year in top condition. I.e. Football is now a 12 month a year job!

Explains not only Hewett struggling to play out games, but also why Harley never really hit the form we were all hoping to see. One had an interrupted pre-season, the other enjoyed his off-season a bit too much.

Harley didnt look jacked at the caravan and camping show today, but he did look like he had much much lower body fat compared to any time ive seen

 

[Shazzman]

Chatgpt says Eagles ideally should pick up Cumming at 2 closely followed by Farrow and Sharp (after giving it quite a few tweaks haha)

 

[Selurs]

Chatgpt says Eagles ideally should pick up Cumming at 2 closely followed by Farrow and Sharp (after giving it quite a few tweaks haha)

Sure, but it also told me the Dogs and Pies played to a crowd of 68k in round 9 of next year when I was using it to try to make some kind of point about Melbourne crowds being soft as butter, so...maybe don't believe everything it says?

 

[Shazzman]

Sure, but it also told me the Dogs and Pies played to a crowd of 68k in round 9 of next year when I was using it to try to make some kind of point about Melbourne crowds being soft as butter, so...maybe don't believe everything it says?

Yeah it makes mistakes that's why you gotta tell it when it's wrong so it can correct itself. I guess they do that to make it more humanlike

 

[Elite Pete]

My take on it is that if there was a pure mid in this draft that absolutely demanded to be taken with picks 1 or 2, then by all means take him. I would not be opposed to that whatsoever.

What I'm less sure on (and I mean less sure, not staunchly against as I don't claim to have absolute knowledge on the way players will develop) is taking a player like Sharp with pick 2 in this draft. I'm the type of person who values someone like a CDT or even a Robey for that matter, if push comes to shove, more than a meat and potatoes mid like Sharp with such a high pick.

It's also my belief that we're at a stage that we can't really tell who among our list is going to step up and fill the contested mid void yet. That doesn't mean that we don't already have that player on our list, just that we're not far along enough to have the answer. If I had to put my nads on the line, I'd say McCarthy and whoever we take on as a rookie will surprise a few posters. Our midfield mix in 2026 is going to look a lot different to 2025 and I would take that to the bank.

I just don't think Sharp or no Sharp is going to be the lynch pin on which the entirety of our list build is reliant upon. Agree with me or don't. Differing opinions are what makes BigFooty an interesting place to chat footy.

Of course taking Sharp or not isn’t going to be the thing that will make or break the list build.

The thing about just piling on mids is the thing I question about your post. It’s just not going to happen in that positional area where we are over correcting and position where we are so short in depth because we take a player or two some prefer not to get.

If we go down the CDT path it could 100% happen in the key forward position but they might think is upside is too good to say no to and they could also like the midfield throw some magnets around. Just like a large majority of our list that will create more unknowns but while 2025 was a season of trial and error so will be 2026 but hopefully a bit more settled

 

[Elite Pete]

Our only two A-grade mids in our 2018 premiership team were Yeo and Shuey. Neither were pure mids. Redden was, but he wasn't an A-grader.

And? Not sure where you are coming from with this.

If it’s to say we don’t need a pure mid? Youre right every contending and premiership list is build a bit different But getting more afl quality mids wouldn’t hurt because anyone who watched our games or can look at stats can see that’s the area that needs the most work.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

With the addition of Starcevich and Young, it’s quite a challenge to name our starting back 6, the pressure will be seriously on for starting positions, flankers, back pockets include, Ginbey, Hough, McCarthy, Duggan, Cole, Starcevich, Baker, Maric.
It’s great to see.

 

[eaglevision]

Another HUN article today linking:

13,34 for 9 WCE/BLUES
F1 for 11 CROWS/BLUES (assume extras)
18,36 for 21,27 GCS/ESS

 

[FKASC]

Another HUN article today linking:

13,34 for 9 WCE/BLUES
F1 for 11 CROWS/BLUES (assume extras)
18,36 for 21,27 GCS/ESS

Please, get this irrelevant commentary out of this thread and stay on topic please.

 

[Shueygod]

Allan and Gross showed better signs than pick 3 last year

txbyhull how could you disagree with this? He spent the entire season on the sideline