Mega Thread Port Forum General AFL Thread Part 31

[VineValerian]

Collingwood wanted to keep their two byes without having to make arduous trip from Melbourne to Sydney. And St Kilda provided a bit of an excuse.

For Collingwood it's an arduous trip from the MCG to Docklands stadium.

Apparently some of them lose their way. In the 2 Km trek across town without help from Google Maps.

A few have even been known to get motion sickness.

 

[Grave Danger]

For Collingwood it's an arduous trip from the MCG to Docklands stadium.

Apparently some of them lose their way. In the 2 Km trek across town without help from Google Maps.

A few have even been known to get motion sickness.

Spare a thought for those poor Collingwood boys - at this time of year when players are jetting off around the world they have far less frequent flyer points to use than their colleagues at other clubs, especially those lucky 'interstate' buggers.

 

[Buget]

Just couldn’t help themselves.

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Watch Port get Collingwood at the MCG in Round 1 and get done by 100 points again.

The AFL finding another way to destroy football.

 

[raptalia]

AFLW Finals:

North Melbourne 5.12 (42)
Hawthorn 0.3 (3)

A score of 0.3 in a final in any Aussie Rules competition is a sign that the competition still has a long way to go. North are a very good side but a side in the top half of the comp should do better than three scoring shots.

Hawthorn's best win was back in round 1 when they beat Brisbane by 4 points. Since then their wins have mainly been against the bottom half of the competition. If the comp had gone another five rounds Hawthorn might not have even been in the finals let alone playing for a spot in a Prelim Final.

The AFLW does not yet have the same credibility that other women's sport such as Cricket, Rugby League and Soccer have and playing for quarters to amass just three scoring shots in a final is testimony to that. It is time for the AFL to come up with a solution to fit 17 AFLW games into the calendar. It may not lift the standard but it will enure that the best sides play finals.

I don't blame the girls or those running the teams , I put the responsibility on the AFL. It is time to get serious about a women's competition if you are going to have one it has to be the real deal and not some mickey mouse 12 round comp.

 

[malcheski]

Izak Rankine being less homophobic?

Was walking in the Pageant today - assuming part of his community service

 

[chiwigi]

AFLW Finals:

North Melbourne 5.12 (42)
Hawthorn 0.3 (3)

A score of 0.3 in a final in any Aussie Rules competition is a sign that the competition still has a long way to go. North are a very good side but a side in the top half of the comp should do better than three scoring shots.

Hawthorn's best win was back in round 1 when they beat Brisbane by 4 points. Since then their wins have mainly been against the bottom half of the competition. If the comp had gone another five rounds Hawthorn might not have even been in the finals let alone playing for a spot in a Prelim Final.

The AFLW does not yet have the same credibility that other women's sport such as Cricket, Rugby League and Soccer have and playing for quarters to amass just three scoring shots in a final is testimony to that. It is time for the AFL to come up with a solution to fit 17 AFLW games into the calendar. It may not lift the standard but it will enure that the best sides play finals.

I don't blame the girls or those running the teams , I put the responsibility on the AFL. It is time to get serious about a women's competition if you are going to have one it has to be the real deal and not some mickey mouse 12 round comp.

The players in this scenario also need to accept that they will play during the summer (night games of course) and negotiate from there. Shorter quarters, more subs etc. to battle the heat.

If AFLW was a summer evening sport it would sky rocket. I’d be at nearly every game. The overlap with the men’s season and the race and draft stuff just takes all the wind out of their sales as footy fatigue is real!

 

[gbear]

Was walking in the Pageant today - assuming part of his community service

I booed him at the basketball last Sunday. The guy is an absolute **** head!

 

[Andre]

AFLW Finals:

North Melbourne 5.12 (42)
Hawthorn 0.3 (3)

A score of 0.3 in a final in any Aussie Rules competition is a sign that the competition still has a long way to go. North are a very good side but a side in the top half of the comp should do better than three scoring shots.

Hawthorn's best win was back in round 1 when they beat Brisbane by 4 points. Since then their wins have mainly been against the bottom half of the competition. If the comp had gone another five rounds Hawthorn might not have even been in the finals let alone playing for a spot in a Prelim Final.

The AFLW does not yet have the same credibility that other women's sport such as Cricket, Rugby League and Soccer have and playing for quarters to amass just three scoring shots in a final is testimony to that. It is time for the AFL to come up with a solution to fit 17 AFLW games into the calendar. It may not lift the standard but it will enure that the best sides play finals.

I don't blame the girls or those running the teams , I put the responsibility on the AFL. It is time to get serious about a women's competition if you are going to have one it has to be the real deal and not some mickey mouse 12 round comp.

If we aren't getting AFL reserves anytime soon, then since there's AFLW teams for all now, play them as the curtain raisers to the AFL games each round.

 

[chiwigi]

If we aren't getting AFL reserves anytime soon, then since there's AFLW teams for all now, play them as the curtain raisers to the AFL games each round.

I hate that as I will never watch a game. I can’t be arsed watching 2 games with a big break between them on the same day.
And if it’s a home game I will be travelling to the game, so won’t watch on telly.

 

[raptalia]

If we aren't getting AFL reserves anytime soon, then since there's AFLW teams for all now, play them as the curtain raisers to the AFL games each round.

I would go along with that suggestion but it probably would not suit the female mafia within the AFL. They would see that as the women's game playing second fiddle to the men's game. A couple of months back I read an ABC news item in which AFL sources were expressing concern in an apparent drop in AFLW interest. The feminist lobby in the AFL wants the AFLW to have the same status as the AFL.

 

[Festerz]

If we aren't getting AFL reserves anytime soon, then since there's AFLW teams for all now, play them as the curtain raisers to the AFL games each round.

I would go along with that suggestion but it probably would not suit the female mafia within the AFL. They would see that as the women's game playing second fiddle to the men's game.

The 'female mafia', whoever the feck they are, would be 100% correct in thinking this of course.

Regardless of what you think of the current state of the game and the way to improve individual and competitive performance across the competition to attract greater crowds.

I'm not an avid follower of the AFLW. But my personal view is that the AFLW games have a totally different composition to AFL or even SANFL crowds. AFLW game crowds compose a far greater number of girls and young women who want to become engaged in the game in a way that was never opened up to them via the traditional competition.

To shift their games as pre-game warm up for the men's competition would totally kill that imho.

AFLW has come from nowhere to a game that has huge interest and engagement in a matter of a few short years. It's up to AFL House to build on what they have to make it as a stand alone competition work. Failure is totally on them.

Looking forward to receiving my 'female mafia' membership form.

 

[Grave Danger]

I booed him at the basketball last Sunday. The guy is an absolute **** head!

That would have been a blushing Crow, I'm sure.

 

[Jonts]

Collingwood was refusing to travel?
Or what they were going to forfeit? Miss out on revenue and be fined by the league?

**** me this is a backyard comp

 

[Festerz]

Pre season trial games from games from 1971. One SA team stood out against their interstate competitors.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

For Collingwood it's an arduous trip from the MCG to Docklands stadium.

Apparently some of them lose their way. In the 2 Km trek across town without help from Google Maps.

A few have even been known to get motion sickness.

I think you'll find that as of last year, St Kilda have requested an MCG home game against a cerain large drawing club.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Pre season trial games from games from 1971. One SA team stood out against their interstate competitors.

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March 20 Woodville vs West. Umpires namesake became the Bulldogs greatest strength.

Also why do the SANFL keep saying they are the better league lol.

 

[raptalia]

AFLW has come from nowhere to a game that has huge interest and engagement in a matter of a few short years. It's up to AFL House to build on what they have to make it as a stand alone competition work. Failure is totally on them.

Looking forward to receiving my 'female mafia' membership form.

The point is the initial interest in AFLW is not being sustained as attendances are falling as you will see if you read the link below and a score of 0.3 in a final will not help.

If the trend continues the AFLW is in real danger of becoming what we do not want- a sideshow. The general consensus seems to be that the timing is a problem and as suggested by another poster running the AFLW during the AFL season seems to be one possible solution. The NRL manage it but of course it is a different code. The NRL stage the NRLW Grand Final as a curtain raiser to the NRL Grand Final and this year over 46,000 saw the women play. The majority of that crowd came to watch the Broncos men play but the fact is it still exposed the women's game to more people and gave the girls the chance to play in front of a large crowd. That can only enhance their competition.

Lauren Arnell makes some interesting observations in the article. Lauren went about as far as she could but raised a question or two about the season's timing.

'Footy fatigue' leaves AFLW struggling for attention after men's season

One of the biggest challenges the AFLW faces is end-of-year "footy fatigue", according to diehard fans and industry insiders.

www.abc.net.au

The post I was replying to included a very good point, until the AFL sorts out the AFLW season format we have no hope of getting an AFL Reserves competition.

 

[Amarula]

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The post I was replying to included a very good point, until the AFL sorts out the AFLW season format we have no hope of getting an AFL Reserves competition.

Does the NRL have a Reserves competition? Whatever they’re doing, they seem to be doing it much more effectively.

 

[Festerz]

The post I was replying to included a very good point, until the AFL sorts out the AFLW season format we have no hope of getting an AFL Reserves competition.

I still don't get how the fact the AFLW is losing money hand over fist in the past two years should have anything to do with us entering a national AFL Reserves competition. They are two totally separate issues and shouldn't be conflated.

The AFL is swimming in money largely due to its broadcast deal. But having loads of cash in the bank shouldn't abrogate its responsibility to manage all aspects of the game in a responsible manner with an eye on the future. But sadly that's exactly what seems to be happening.

The AFLW has been spectacularly successful in getting girls and young women to participate in the game at the grass roots level. It's exactly the sort of thing that Dillon references when he talks about the mens game in Queensland when he is questioned about the continual poor attendances and interest in the Gold Coast Suns. Why is it not the measure of success when it comes to the AFLW across Australia? Probably because he is full of shit and picks his points that best suit the narrative he wants to spin.

Despite huge growth in engagement in the game from the target audience - young girls and women - we are seeing falling viewer interest in a compromised competition played over a limited number of rounds post the men's season with questionable huge rises in player payments for that short season. That is solely down to the poor management by the AFL.

The buck stops with Dillon. Again. But this is a guy who imo only likes the spotlight to tell the good stories and goes missing when things aren't running to script.

On that point. How surprising that it's largely the women in the media (the female mafia? ) who are highlighting this issue in depth and demanding accountability from the AFL on this as opposed to the traditional AFL media sycophants.

 

[Powerade 08]

Tampons? ova eere

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I still don't get how the fact the AFLW is losing money hand over fist in the past two years should have anything to do with us entering a national AFL Reserves competition. They are two totally separate issues and shouldn't be conflated.

The AFL is swimming in money largely due to its broadcast deal. But having loads of cash in the bank shouldn't abrogate its responsibility to manage all aspects of the game in a responsible manner with an eye on the future. But sadly that's exactly what seems to be happening.

The AFLW has been spectacularly successful in getting girls and young women to participate in the game at the grass roots level. It's exactly the sort of thing that Dillon references when he talks about the mens game in Queensland when he is questioned about the continual poor attendances and interest in the Gold Coast Suns. Why is it not the measure of success when it comes to the AFLW across Australia? Probably because he is full of shit and picks his points that best suit the narrative he wants to spin.

Despite huge growth in engagement in the game from the target audience - young girls and women - we are seeing falling viewer interest in a compromised competition played over a limited number of rounds post the men's season with questionable huge rises in player payments for that short season. That is solely down to the poor management by the AFL.

The buck stops with Dillon. Again. But this is a guy who imo only likes the spotlight to tell the good stories and goes missing when things aren't running to script.

On that point. How surprising that it's largely the women in the media (the female mafia? ) who are highlighting this issue in depth and demanding accountability from the AFL on this as opposed to the traditional AFL media sycophants.

Agree with a lot of this but a lot of responsibility has to lie with the fans as well. Even if things arent perfect, if you want something to succeed you make the time to show up and support it. Attendance numbers would show there are a lot of people who are making a lot of noise about the AFLW being the future but arent actually showing up on game day.

I mean there are games between two Vic teams played in good time slots with not much more than 1k in attendance. No excuses for that.

 

[chiwigi]

Does the NRL have a Reserves competition? Whatever they’re doing, they seem to be doing it much more effectively.

Not really, it’s still state comps with NSWRL being like the VFL, but they also have club juniors playing instead of draftees.

 

[It Just Is]

A fixture that has more teams than games means you aren’t a serious comp.

18 teams is too many for the men’s. It’s madness for the women.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Agree with a lot of this but a lot of responsibility has to lie with the fans as well. Even if things arent perfect, if you want something to succeed you make the time to show up and support it. Attendance numbers would show there are a lot of people who are making a lot of noise about the AFLW being the future but arent actually showing up on game day.

I mean there are games between two Vic teams played in good time slots with not much more than 1k in attendance. No excuses for that.

I'm one of those fans who wants the competition to succeed and since Port's entry I have taken a strong interest in the competition. I've seen the improvement in our W game and I think the women represent the spirit of Port Adelaide better than the men did under Hinkley. I accept the skill level is not professional standard but I even enjoy that because it adds an element of anticipation/excitement that a passage of play going one way can suddenly turn around. Tilda, Gemma and Indy are great to watch play football.

But I didn't go to a single game this year. It was all TV for me and I even missed a couple of games that way. It is mostly down to football fatigue. Going to/watching Port games Under Hinkley - this year especially - became nothing more than a chore. And it does require you to reorganise all manner of aspects of your life to get to some games.

By the end of the AFL season, I was over it. There were some W timeslots it was just too hard to reorganise or to find the motivation, especially with the bad start to the W season. I don't blame North Melbourne for being amazingly good, they were not a factor in any of my decision making.

Then before you know it the season is over. As was posted, it is hard to take a 12 round season seriously, especially when teams make the finals thanks to a soft draw. It really matters in a short season.

And the umpiring is a horror show. You can't describe the levels of exasperation. The Geelong free kick broke me, how could an umpire be so tone deaf to the spirit and rules of the game to make that decision? I read a social media quote where someone said it was like the AFL collected a group of people who had never seen or heard of AFL football and said, Here umpire this game.

I'm hoping Josh's Port Adelaide will reinvigorate the men's team and this will spread to the club as a whole. I will commit to getting to W games next season.

PS this general malaise applied to the sanfl too. I've barely bothered with that lately because Hinkley didn't give a shit and the club treated it like a training exercise. I think the changes Josh has already implemented will see improvement there too.

 

[chiwigi]

I'm one of those fans who wants the competition to succeed and since Port's entry I have taken a strong interest in the competition. I've seen the improvement in our W game and I think the women represent the spirit of Port Adelaide better than the men did under Hinkley. I accept the skill level is not professional standard but I even enjoy that because it adds an element of anticipation/excitement that a passage of play going one way can suddenly turn around. Tilda, Gemma and Indy are great to watch play football.

But I didn't go to a single game this year. It was all TV for me and I even missed a couple of games that way. It is mostly down to football fatigue. Going to/watching Port games Under Hinkley - this year especially - became nothing more than a chore. And it does require you to reorganise all manner of aspects of your life to get to some games.

By the end of the AFL season, I was over it. There were some W timeslots it was just too hard to reorganise or to find the motivation, especially with the bad start to the W season. I don't blame North Melbourne for being amazingly good, they were not a factor in any of my decision making.

Then before you know it the season is over. As was posted, it is hard to take a 12 round season seriously, especially when teams make the finals thanks to a soft draw. It really matters in a short season.

And the umpiring is a horror show. You can't describe the levels of exasperation. The Geelong free kick broke me, how could an umpire be so tone deaf to the spirit and rules of the game to make that decision? I read a social media quote where someone said it was like the AFL collected a group of people who had never seen or heard of AFL football and said, Here umpire this game.

I'm hoping Josh's Port Adelaide will reinvigorate the men's team and this will spread to the club as a whole. I will commit to getting to W games next season.

PS this general malaise applied to the sanfl too. I've barely bothered with that lately because Hinkley didn't give a shit and the club treated it like a training exercise. I think the changes Josh has already implemented will see improvement there too.

This is 100% my thinking. Going to the Hinkeyball games was hard work in and of itself, I had no Ports energy for the others except on TV.