AFL Introduces Wild Card Round

[joe444]

I repeat:

After 23 games in an 18 team competition, should the 10th placed team be granted a remote possibility of winning a 5 week championship series? Should it be given the capacity to indirectly determine other finals?

If the answer is no, you can take your percentages and shine em up real good, bend right over and ...

 

[TheBoss]

Hate this.

May as well go full balls-to-the-wall and change the finals format to top 16 in a bracket format. 1 v 16, 2 v 15 etc. Still get 4 weeks of finals too!

17 v 18 can play each other, winner gets the #1 draft pick.

Now fans of every club have something to cheer for in September!

Call me Dillon, I got more whacky ideas!

 

[Philth]

The Bulldogs won it from 7th in 2016.
Under the current system, the flag can be won from outside the top 4....or 6.
Under the new system, 7th - 10th have to slug it out for an extra round, while the top 6 get a week off. They have no chance.

Just make it a top 10 instead of a top 8?

 

[Dazza the Viking]

The Bulldogs won it from 7th in 2016.
Under the current system, the flag can be won from outside the top 4....or 6.
Under the new system, 7th - 10th have to slug it out for an extra round, while the top 6 get a week off. They have no chance.

Just make it a top 10 instead of a top 8?

You beat me to the punch 7th and 8th have now no chance of winning the flag, you might as well have a top 6

 

[TheBoss]

Should the AFL introduce a post–Wildcard Round bye?

I’m just thinking about situations like if Naicos were to get concussed during the Wildcard Round, he’d automatically miss the Elimination Final the following week. A bye could help ensure star players have enough recovery time and that teams aren’t disadvantaged by bad timing.

 

[Philth]

Should the AFL introduce a post–Wildcard Round bye?

I’m just thinking about situations like if Naicos were to get concussed during the Wildcard Round, he’d automatically miss the Elimination Final the following week. A bye could help ensure star players have enough recovery time and that teams aren’t disadvantaged by bad timing.

Dear god. It wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

Inevitable, but utter shit. Eight is too many, only barely acceptable because the fixture is so screwed.
I really hope this backfires and that by cheapening finals ratings drop because there is no meaning to the early ones any more.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

Should the AFL introduce a post–Wildcard Round bye?

I’m just thinking about situations like if Naicos were to get concussed during the Wildcard Round, he’d automatically miss the Elimination Final the following week. A bye could help ensure star players have enough recovery time and that teams aren’t disadvantaged by bad timing.

Good idea. And to avoid a media free week 11th and 12th can play reorchage finals to stay alive, during the bye week.

 

[bluebob1]

This is just horrible logic and maths. Totally incorrect.

If you are going to use probability you would need to do a like for like statistical analysis of past data. The probability of a team winning from each position on the ladder under our current system will give you a baseline, and then you can start extrapolating about how it will effect the teams in 7-10. 7 and 8 will get worse chances, their probability is diluted by having to play an extra game with no bye. 9 and 10 will have roughly the same chance as 7 and 8. The probability of each ladder position from 6 to 1 will remain unchanged as their finals series won't change at all.

No - 5 and 6 chances has risen as they are now playing a team not having a rest whereas previously everyone had a bye

 

[CCurnow3picks]

Only if you dont believe its actually a top 10 finals series.

Indeed - I think it's more of a top-10 farce.

The AFL are nuking our game, to justify their hefty pay packets.

 

[Seeds]

What's the point.

As long as its not of major consequence, as in this case, then nothing wrong with chasing money.

Chasing money at the expense of a fair draw is far far far more problematic.

 

[Seeds]

Indeed - I think it's more of a top-10 farce.

The AFL are nuking our game, to justify their hefty pay packets.

Why is it a farce?

 

[joe444]

The Bulldogs won it from 7th in 2016.
Under the current system, the flag can be won from outside the top 4....or 6.
Under the new system, 7th - 10th have to slug it out for an extra round, while the top 6 get a week off. They have no chance.

Just make it a top 10 instead of a top 8?

Is that supposed to be a good thing - that a team won it from 7th? I mean, nice romance and all but ...

 

[Purple Suit]

They should ask him what tanking is too since Gil never quite figured it out.

It's either a Wildcard to get into finals or it's a final. How can it be both?

 

[Seeds]

Hate this.

May as well go full balls-to-the-wall and change the finals format to top 16 in a bracket format. 1 v 16, 2 v 15 etc. Still get 4 weeks of finals too!

17 v 18 can play each other, winner gets the #1 draft pick.

Now fans of every club have something to cheer for in September!

Call me Dillon, I got more whacky ideas!

What a ridiculous straw man.

 

[Seeds]

No - 5 and 6 chances has risen as they are now playing a team not having a rest whereas previously everyone had a bye

And this is a positive for finals integrity is it not? Now harder for the mediocre teams.

 

[Seeds]

You beat me to the punch 7th and 8th have now no chance of winning the flag, you might as well have a top 6

Exactly. And this is a good thing.

 

[Seeds]

Dillion by accident has now improved finals integrity.

Must make top 6 to win flag. No flags from 7th or 8th now.

And yet he keeps small false hopes alive for all the medicore teams in the back half of the season. They cant win a flag but they still get to play in potentially a couple of big games to finish the season.

 

[joe444]

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me they support this on the basis that 9th and 10th deserve an equal (minimal) shot at the flag as 7th and 8th...

 

[Seeds]

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me they support this on the basis that 9th and 10th deserve an equal (minimal) shot at the flag as 7th and 8th...

I support it.

 

[SC_Power]

We may be at cross purposes, because I completely agree that the AFL is a master of taking supporter bases for granted.

I wouldn't be surprised, though, if we will see a tipping point where fan dissatisfaction will find a way.

Poorly worded my post, I completely agree with you

 

[Grumpyshades]

comical

 

[Toump Ass]

The Bulldogs won it from 7th in 2016.

Finished 7th but they finished the H&A only a game behind a fourth-placed GWS (who had a % of 140 odd). From memlory they had a few injuries early on too.

I wonder if they make the distance with an extra elimination finals in "Wild Card" round, while GWS get a bye...

 

[Obeanie1]

They should ask him what tanking is too since Gil never quite figured it out.

It's either a Wildcard to get into finals or it's a final. How can it be both?

Its a Wildcard Final.

 

[Pistol Night]

I repeat:

After 23 games in an 18 team competition, should the 10th placed team be granted a remote possibility of winning a 5 week championship series? Should it be given the capacity to indirectly determine other finals?

If the answer is no, you can take your percentages and shine em up real good, bend right over and ...

Shelve a calculator?