List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[Goroyals22]

Jack Williams is only 198cm. Whilst his craft is decent, he will only ever be a pinch hitter at that size. He will need to be primarily a KPF/KPD if he is to make it with us .

I like him tho, his 2024 was awesome. 2025 not so much but it’s good to see him come back leaner.

I still go back to 2024 to when Witt’s (again) was taking Bailey Williams apart on the Gold Coast and Jack went into the ruck and at least Nullified his knocks because he did basic things like taking the front spot at throw ins making Witt’s have to go over him for the knock.

You even look at Jeff whites
Video about stoppages from yesterday and the example of a knockout we won correctly the ruckman was Jack Williams.

He can’t be any worse than what we have so I’d love to see him get first crack at it

 

[new breed]

Maybe but pick 30+ in a shallow and weak draft doesn’t seem like it.

But who knows if these other teams legit have interest that high until draft night.

Fremantle were keen on Leon Kickett , maybe they are more interested in Tylar Williams now , either one will end up at Freo then.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

With Maric not on the list of players upgraded, wonder if there's any chance he is remaining on the rookie list.

 

[WCEswift]

I still go back to 2024 to when Witt’s (again) was taking Bailey Williams apart on the Gold Coast and Jack went into the ruck and at least Nullified his knocks because he did basic things like taking the front spot at throw ins making Witt’s have to go over him for the knock.

You even look at Jeff whites
Video about stoppages from yesterday and the example of a knockout we won correctly the ruckman was Jack Williams.

He can’t be any worse than what we have so I’d love to see him get first crack at it

Its what i teach my undersized rucks, if your smaller get in front, make them reach over you, make the ref make a call every contest. DONT SURRENDER FRONT POSITION

 

[Mr Q]

Jagga Smith is Chris Masten 2.0

A 200+ game premiership player?

You'd take that.

 

[eaglespremiers]

It's almost like the recruiters know more than us fans. Noone has been talking about this guy in the media as being rated near the top dozen. Obviously there are some clubs that have him rated there though so perhaps he is our target and we believe that he will go before our natural 3rd pick?

Rated at 30 by ESPNs latest rankings (only one below Addinsall who we are also reportedly interested in)...

30. Cameron Nairn (32)
Central District/South Australia
FWD, 188cm
National Championships: 4 games, 10.0 disposals, 2.3 goals
SANFL U18s: 13 games, 20.5 disposals, 1.7 goals

Nairn is a quick-thinking forward that kicks goals in a variety of ways. He doesn't have an elite athletic profile but finds space inside 50 and makes his opportunities count, plus showed glimpses further afield late in the year by racking up touches through the midfield.

Traits similar to: Nic Martin

Doesnt really read like someone worth trading up for and taking early/mid first round but if he turns into Nic Martin, Id be happy with him at 13.

As an aside, Dyson Sharp's girlfriend was sitting with Cam Nairn's girlfriend during the game against Vic Country.

 

[WCEswift]

Davo-27 most recent mock draft

Phantom Draft

Pick 1 - WCE - Willem Duursma
Pick 2 - GCS - bid - Zeke Uwland
Pick 3 - WCE - Dyson Sharp
Pick 4 - GCS - bid - Dylan Patterson
Pick 5 - Rich - Sullivan Robey
Pick 6 - Carl - bid - Harry Dean
Pick 7 - Bris - bid - Dan Annable
Pick 8 - Rich - Sam Grlj
Pick 9 - Ess - Cooper Duff-Tytler
Pick 10 - Ess - Xavier Taylor
Pick 11 - Melb - Sam Cumming
Pick 12 - Melb - Latrelle Pickett
Pick 13 - Haw - Josh Lindsay
Pick 14 - GWS - Jacob Farrow
Pick 15 - Carl - Aidan Schubert
Pick 16 - WCE - Lachy Dovaston
Pick 17 - Western - Hugo Mikunda
Pick 18 - Adel - Harley Barker
Pick 19 - Syd - bid - Max King

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

Pick 20 - Geel - Oliver Greeves
Pick 21 - Syd - bid - Lachlan Carmichael
Pick 22 - Frem - Mitch Marsh
Pick 23 - Ess - Blake Thredgold
Pick 24 - Haw - Cam Nairn

 

[txbyhull]

Davo-27 most recent mock draft

Phantom Draft

Pick 1 - WCE - Willem Duursma
Pick 2 - GCS - bid - Zeke Uwland
Pick 3 - WCE - Dyson Sharp
Pick 4 - GCS - bid - Dylan Patterson
Pick 5 - Rich - Sullivan Robey
Pick 6 - Carl - bid - Harry Dean
Pick 7 - Bris - bid - Dan Annable
Pick 8 - Rich - Sam Grlj
Pick 9 - Ess - Cooper Duff-Tytler
Pick 10 - Ess - Xavier Taylor
Pick 11 - Melb - Sam Cumming
Pick 12 - Melb - Latrelle Pickett
Pick 13 - Haw - Josh Lindsay
Pick 14 - GWS - Jacob Farrow
Pick 15 - Carl - Aidan Schubert
Pick 16 - WCE - Lachy Dovaston
Pick 17 - Western - Hugo Mikunda
Pick 18 - Adel - Harley Barker
Pick 19 - Syd - bid - Max King
Pick 20 - Geel - Oliver Greeves
Pick 21 - Syd - bid - Lachlan Carmichael
Pick 22 - Frem - Mitch Marsh
Pick 23 - Ess - Blake Thredgold
Pick 24 - Haw - Cam Nairn

Care to repeat what you said about it over there on here too?

 

[WCEswift]

Care to repeat what you said about it over there on here too?

Absolutely I WCEswift will jerk off every dude (ladies too i guess?) in this thread if we take this draft haul

 

[Shueygod]

Absolutely I WCEswift will jerk off every dude (ladies too i guess?) in this thread if we take this draft haul

Nothing to worry about mate, Sharp won’t be taken at 2.

 

[WCEswift]

Nothing to worry about mate, Sharp won’t be taken at 2.

Ill cry if its cdt

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I’m wanting to raise an interesting question on Essendon’s picks 5+6. What impact will the Pieman have in the Drug Rat’s draft without the heavy hand of Dildoro?

When did the Pieman ever successfully instruct the WCE list manager to trade up to the very pointy end of the draft? I cannot recall it happening. That said, 5+6 for 2+13 does represent a trade back and he was an expert at that.

It is relatively obvious that Essendon need midfielders. Lord knows the Pieman has been in that situation. Many believe 2 midfielders in Cumming and Sharp would fit the Don’s list needs beautifully. He may take 1 but history suggests he would rarely double down and take both. The Pieman knew with great midfielders like Ainsworth, Brayshaw, Clarke, XON, Partington, Foley, et al can be found later in the draft. Besides, he knew that a flanker with midfield potential normally fills the void. Maybe the Dons have asked Nairn to be at the draft!

Next, the Pieman was very good at drafting talls. Why has the football world dismissed not trading up for CDT or at least taking Schubert at 6.

If he slips by Richmond, isn’t Grlj just the player that the Pieman loved. That said, he loved an injured prospect and that brings Harley Barker in to play. Or is this just another reason to push hard for 2+13. Maybe he might get he way with 5+6+27 for 2+10+34!

Does the Pieman like a tough inside bull? It was obvious to us all in 2017 that the List Manager mouthed Worpel and the Pieman overruled and let a proven inside midfielder slip and he took our collective favourite in Brayden Ainsworth

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Brayden Ainsworth

Age

27

Ht

184cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.0

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.3

5star

CL

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.7

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.7

4star

M

3.3

4star

T

4.3

5star

CL

1.7

4star

. Is Greeves that player - I saw at the Metro game that Greeves has leadership stamped all over himself!

 

[Shueygod]

Ill cry if its cdt

You’ll come round.

 

[mattyc75]

Ill cry if its cdt

Tears are the best lubricant

 

[Barrybran]

I’m wanting to raise an interesting question on Essendon’s picks 5+6. What impact will the Pieman have in the Drug Rat’s draft without the heavy hand of Dildoro?

When did the Pieman ever successfully instruct the WCE list manager to trade up to the very pointy end of the draft? I cannot recall it happening. That said, 5+6 for 2+13 does represent a trade back and he was an expert at that.

It is relatively obvious that Essendon need midfielders. Lord knows the Pieman has been in that situation. Many believe 2 midfielders in Cumming and Sharp would fit the Don’s list needs beautifully. He may take 1 but history suggests he would rarely double down and take both. The Pieman knew with great midfielders like Ainsworth, Brayshaw, Clarke, XON, Partington, Foley, et al can be found later in the draft. Besides, he knew that a flanker with midfield potential normally fills the void. Maybe the Dons have asked Nairn to be at the draft!

Next, the Pieman was very good at drafting talls. Why has the football world dismissed not trading up for CDT or at least taking Schubert at 6.

If he slips by Richmond, isn’t Grlj just the player that the Pieman loved. That said, he loved an injured prospect and that brings Harley Barker in to play. Or is this just another reason to push hard for 2+13. Maybe he might get he way with 5+6+27 for 2+10+34!

Does the Pieman like a tough inside bull? It was obvious to us all in 2017 that the List Manager mouthed Worpel and the Pieman overruled and let a proven inside midfielder slip and he took our collective favourite in Brayden Ainsworth. Is Greeves that player - I saw at the Metro game that Greeves has leadership stamped all over himself!

Essendon's midfield is in better shape than ours. There's a world where CDT + Schubert are more attractive this year with the ability to take a mid at the top end next year. Pick 21 will also be in a great spot to snap up a slider.

 

[Bender_]

Absolutely I WCEswift will jerk off every dude (ladies too i guess?) in this thread if we take this draft haul

Still second to seeing bombard eat his own shit.

 

[quackish]

Leave CDT to Richmond, take Duursma and Robey, then we profit

 

[Peptide Pig]

When clubs will launch bids — and young guns who could slip through — as wide ranges explained: Mega AFL draft mail

Tigers’ call on trio as trade gamble, bids and wide ranges explained: Mega AFL draft mail

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[Obeanie1]

Hall and Allan haven't proven themselves yet. Why did we finish 18th with contested possessions if we had these big bodied midfielders already in our team.

We have been drafting to address the inside mid issues over several drafts. You don't focus on one position in one draft.

Now the likes of Hall, Gross and Bo need development games.

We dont need to draft 3 more inside mids this draft, that was the OPs view.

 

[ghostbat12]

Will proudly put my hand up as one of these people. Rate him third out of our 4 kids

are they looking to shake us out to leave path for Rodriquez to fremantle with their 2nd pick?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I’m wanting to raise an interesting question on Essendon’s picks 5+6. What impact will the Pieman have in the Drug Rat’s draft without the heavy hand of Dildoro?

When did the Pieman ever successfully instruct the WCE list manager to trade up to the very pointy end of the draft? I cannot recall it happening. That said, 5+6 for 2+13 does represent a trade back and he was an expert at that.

It is relatively obvious that Essendon need midfielders. Lord knows the Pieman has been in that situation. Many believe 2 midfielders in Cumming and Sharp would fit the Don’s list needs beautifully. He may take 1 but history suggests he would rarely double down and take both. The Pieman knew with great midfielders like Ainsworth, Brayshaw, Clarke, XON, Partington, Foley, et al can be found later in the draft. Besides, he knew that a flanker with midfield potential normally fills the void. Maybe the Dons have asked Nairn to be at the draft!

Next, the Pieman was very good at drafting talls. Why has the football world dismissed not trading up for CDT or at least taking Schubert at 6.

If he slips by Richmond, isn’t Grlj just the player that the Pieman loved. That said, he loved an injured prospect and that brings Harley Barker in to play. Or is this just another reason to push hard for 2+13. Maybe he might get he way with 5+6+27 for 2+10+34!

Does the Pieman like a tough inside bull? It was obvious to us all in 2017 that the List Manager mouthed Worpel and the Pieman overruled and let a proven inside midfielder slip and he took our collective favourite in Brayden Ainsworth. Is Greeves that player - I saw at the Metro game that Greeves has leadership stamped all over himself!

Its not obvious at all Essendon need midfielders. They primarily need ball users and speed on the flanks.

If im Essendon im taking Sam Cumming and putting him at HF come Round 1. For Pick 6 id probably want to take one of Dovaston/Farrow in a massive reach. Theyd be smart to try and move pick 6 to Crows for say Pick 16 + F1st and be ok with grabbing whoever of Lindsay//Hibbins-Hargraves/Taylor/Phillipou that slides to that pick

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Essendon's midfield is in better shape than ours. There's a world where CDT + Schubert are more attractive this year with the ability to take a mid at the top end next year. Pick 21 will also be in a great spot to snap up a slider.

C: Duursma. Durham, Fiorini
R: Bryan, Caldwell, Merrett

Perkions/Kako/Parish in the mix too.

Midfield lacks 1 more superstar but they definetly are not short of midfielders

 

[paran]

I’m wanting to raise an interesting question on Essendon’s picks 5+6. What impact will the Pieman have in the Drug Rat’s draft without the heavy hand of Dildoro?

When did the Pieman ever successfully instruct the WCE list manager to trade up to the very pointy end of the draft? I cannot recall it happening. That said, 5+6 for 2+13 does represent a trade back and he was an expert at that.

It is relatively obvious that Essendon need midfielders. Lord knows the Pieman has been in that situation. Many believe 2 midfielders in Cumming and Sharp would fit the Don’s list needs beautifully. He may take 1 but history suggests he would rarely double down and take both. The Pieman knew with great midfielders like Ainsworth, Brayshaw, Clarke, XON, Partington, Foley, et al can be found later in the draft. Besides, he knew that a flanker with midfield potential normally fills the void. Maybe the Dons have asked Nairn to be at the draft!

Next, the Pieman was very good at drafting talls. Why has the football world dismissed not trading up for CDT or at least taking Schubert at 6.

If he slips by Richmond, isn’t Grlj just the player that the Pieman loved. That said, he loved an injured prospect and that brings Harley Barker in to play. Or is this just another reason to push hard for 2+13. Maybe he might get he way with 5+6+27 for 2+10+34!

Does the Pieman like a tough inside bull? It was obvious to us all in 2017 that the List Manager mouthed Worpel and the Pieman overruled and let a proven inside midfielder slip and he took our collective favourite in Brayden Ainsworth. Is Greeves that player - I saw at the Metro game that Greeves has leadership stamped all over himself!

Any injury prone high achievers at U16 level going round!?

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

Absolutely I WCEswift will jerk off every dude (ladies too i guess?) in this thread if we take this draft haul

Everyone lining up for WCEswift

 

[Astro7]

Ill cry if its cdt

Either way it looks like your gonna need a big box of tissues!