Analysis 2025 Draft watch

[Aphrodite]

 

[Mondyboy]

This was before the latest draft changes though. Things change. Giving up two top 11 draft picks for an unproven AFL player is fraught with danger.

I think you're skipping over my main point. Whatever the current draft rules and point values, the club has to ensure that Dean and Ison are drafted. Again, it's easy to be hard-edged about this on BF when there's nothing at stake beyond your opinion, but we are talking the club's culture, reputation and a kid's future.

As for the risk. Yep. He could be a failure. So could Ison. So could Cody. So could the two players we pick up instead of Harry. The risk is the same. But the longstanding effect it will have on the club is far worse.

 

[Opium]

I think you're skipping over my main point. Whatever the current draft rules and point values, the club has to ensure that Dean and Ison are drafted. Again, it's easy to be hard-edged about this on BF when there's nothing at stake beyond your opinion, but we are talking the club's culture, reputation and a kid's future.

As for the risk. Yep. He could be a failure. So could Ison. So could Cody. So could the two players we pick up instead of Harry. The risk is the same. But the longstanding effect it will have on the club is far worse.

I disagree. The job of the list managers is to ensure to build a balanced list capable of challenging for a premiership. The club shouldn't guarantee anything just like we haven't with Gresham or the other NGA player we can select. Just because they're in our academy doesn't mean we're obliged to select them.

 

[Faz 2000]

Reading things here it’s all sounding terrible, gloomy and more CFC mistakes and mismanagement.

But surely having an intercepting key defender rated potentially a top 3 talent lined up is pretty good news!

An 18yo Jake Lever

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Jake Lever

Age

29

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

242.0

4star

D

9.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

3.1

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

2star

MG

145.4

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

189.8

4star

type? That has Blue blood in his veins? Combative one-on-one too?

 

[Opium]

We have traded 4 first round picks and three top quality players for just Smith/Dean? This just is isn't true man.

Read my post again.

 

[Opium]

I’ve heard Adelaide will be offering their F1 to us. These Essendon/north rumours might be helpful in flushing that out.

How does that help with getting points to get both Dean and Ison though if bid on early?

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Read my post again.

It's hard enough reading your posts once

 

[Opium]

It's hard enough reading your posts once

Feel free to put me on ignore

 

[Penetrator]

Feel free to put me on ignore

Would be really interested to know if you were in charge what your grand plan would be to get both Dean and Ison this year ?

Also did you watch a lot of Dean this year ?

 

[Opium]

Would be really interested to know if you were in charge what your grand plan would be to get both Dean and Ison this year ?

Also did you watch a lot of Dean this year ?

I wouldn't of traded that pick we got for JSOS. That's really hamstrung us now.
I've seen Deans highlights.

 

[juzza316]

Are you blind? If you believe otherwise you aren't paying attention.

Collingwood getting a home game for free in opening round for no apparent reason would be another recent example of the favouritism.

Yep tin foil hat looks good on you

 

[sweethoney]

At the end of the day is Dean worth pick 9 and 11 in isolation. First draftee to cost two first rounders.

Ask again in 5 years time

 

[GapInIkonPark]

Lot to play out …

‘Front runner’ and ‘in line’.

 

[kreuze_missile]

How early is Dean rumoured to be picked?

Absolute disaster that we’re trading out of the first round completely.

 

[BlueTongue]

Disappointing

Cal Twomey tweeting pick 9 for Essendons picks 21 and 27 and pick 11 for norths 25 and a future second likely to occur.

Not sure if I love that I’ll be honest

Edit just saw this is being discussed in the draft thread. Carry on

Why in the hell would we do that? For a start Pick 9 is worth 101 points more than 21 & 27 before you even get into the potential worth on draft night. If we are going to split an early 1st rounder I'd hope we would do a lot better than that.

AND, I'd want to make sure that deal got done AFTER * had used their first 2 picks or else they could bid on Dean and shaft us Royally.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

At the end of the day is Dean worth pick 9 and 11 in isolation. First draftee to cost two first rounders.

Since our last one.

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Not sure why jim is up on a pedestal around here. No offence but more often than not the bloke is the reverse Midas touch....letting Dean out to hang, terrible call

 

[marcmurphy3]

Why in the hell would we do that? For a start Pick 9 is worth 101 points more than 21 & 27 before you even get into the potential worth on draft night. If we are going to split an early 1st rounder I'd hope we would do a lot better than that.

AND, I'd want to make sure that deal got done AFTER * had used their first 2 picks or else they could bid on Dean and shaft us royally

Doesn't look like Dean gets to Don's pick so irrelevant whether they would bid or not.

 

[Stamos]

Not sure why jim is up on a pedestal around here. No offence but more often than not the bloke is the reverse Midas touch....letting Dean out to hang, terrible call

I think ‘cause he brought his own pedestal

 

[DZ4]

Don’t mind the Dons deal.

Norf deal is horrible. I’d hold out for as long as possible on 11, a club will bite with an F1 once Dean is bid on.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Don’t mind the Dons deal.

Norf deal is horrible. I’d hold out for as long as possible on 11, a club will bite with an F1 once Dean is bid on.

I think we trade 9,43 for 21,27,30 at the start of the draft so we are loaded with points for the Dean bid. Think we have to do it early otherwise Dons might move up the board via Goldcoast instead.

Then we can wait till a bid is actually made to decide on 11. If WC arent bluffing and its top 3, we probably need to take the North offer for more points. If its later then we have more flexibility.

 

[teddy-hopkins]

We all have to own our histories.

I still hold a deep grudge with North Melbourne FC and umpire Allen over the diabolical chain of events that led to us forfeiting the 1904 VFA Grand Final.

I wouldn't read too much into Richmond delisting 2 key defenders, Blight and Koschitzke, and trading out a third in Tylar Young to make way for Dean on our list. It is just probably a big coincidence.

Anyway, we already got you back for Yarran by fooling dumbarse Silvagni into trading up to get ahead of our picks for Philp and Stocker. I often feel terrible about that.

You guys stole Grigg for a half sucked Mars bar.... and Knights fat ass rolling over koutas knee. Still owe you for that one.

 

[DZ4]

I think we trade 9,43 for 21,27,30 at the start of the draft so we are loaded with points for the Dean bid. Think we' have to otherwise Dons might move up the board via Goldcoast.

Then we can wait till a bid is actually made to decide on 11. If WC arent bluffing and its top 3, we probably need to take the North offer for more points. If its later then we have more flexibility.

I still think they’re bluffing, or at the very least angling for pick 9 in exchange for 13 + 34.

Time will tell.

 

[Premiership Quarter]

I think you're skipping over my main point. Whatever the current draft rules and point values, the club has to ensure that Dean and Ison are drafted. Again, it's easy to be hard-edged about this on BF when there's nothing at stake beyond your opinion, but we are talking the club's culture, reputation and a kid's future.

As for the risk. Yep. He could be a failure. So could Ison. So could Cody. So could the two players we pick up instead of Harry. The risk is the same. But the longstanding effect it will have on the club is far worse.

They are both just crap deals and we’re giving a hell of a lot up for these two players it just doesn’t seem necessary surely we get one good young kid outside of Dean with those two picks. Just giving up prize picks everywhere like the Hawthorn deal we didn’t need to do and then giving second rounders back to Sydney. When you think about the three first rounders we got for Curnow, one’s going to be in the mid to late 20’s and one mid to late thirties so this years one is where the value is. We are basically giving Curnow and and first rounders for Dean.

 

[Premiership Quarter]

For me yes. Have you watched Deans year? But you have overly simplified the logic. It's not just Dean. We get the extra points to know we can secure Ison also without going into deficit (critical for Cody). Also, we get a (likely early) F2.

So yes, worth it for me!

Ultimately, with GW at the club now overseeing everything, we are not going to get this wrong

We have already got the trading part wrong and now looking like making some pretty average deals here. But they are the experts I just don’t think we have a top 8 recruitment team.

 

[Premiership Quarter]

Doesn't look like Dean gets to Don's pick so irrelevant whether they would bid or not.

Imagine giving Essendon our prize top ten pick for second rounders in any draft let alone this one. The arch enemy getting out top ten pick and giving nothing in return for it