List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

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Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[Godfather32]

Liked this post even though I sometimes resemble it

Well, to be fair we're probably all guilty of it a bit

 

[SAweagle]

DRob and Finn would probably get midfield opportunities in lesser teams than Bris and Collingwood midfields so not complete nuffies in the role and will be handy pickups if they are hungry to succeed with this AFL lifeline ..

Really really hope you're right

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Same multi million dollar clubs and pro talent evaluators that oversaw the following

James Hird pick 79
Corey Enright pick 47
Dane Swan pick 58
Sam Mitchell pick 36
Mark Blicaves pick 54 rookie draft
Robbie Gray pick 55
Taylor Walker pick 75
Harris Andrews pick 61
Nick Larkey pick 73
Lachie Neale pick 58
Jeremy McGovern pick 44 rookie draft
Chris Grant pick 105
Brian Lake pick 71
Brent Harvey pick 47
Adam Goodes pick 43
Dean Kemp pick 117
Matt Scarlett pick 45
Gary Ablett Jr pick 40
Dean Cox pick 28 rookie draft
Luke Breust pick 47

Yes, drafting is an inexact science as is player development. That doesn’t change the fact that if a guy can’t jump, kick straight or catch the ball he’s not getting nearly universally rated at the very pointy end of draft prospects.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Yeah thats my point.

Harley was described as a utility, same as Duursma, but theyre both mids

Described by who.??

Rookie me ESPN and call all described him as a mid/fd

 

[bzparkes]

That list is also just a few of the biggest steals, conversely the list of duds taken in the top 10 would be silly to post given its length and breadth.

What evidence is there to suggest recruiters are better now than an arbitrary time from the past?

The duds taken in the top 10 in the past decade, outside of the covid years probably, are a lot less than they were a decade+ ago.

Maybe a number of them haven't lived up to expectations but the majority of them have carved out at least a decent career.

 

[paran]

Described by who.??

Rookie me ESPN and call all described him as a mid/fd

He was AA off the HBF as a 17yo.

 

[Weshi]

Just a few general points I have found interesting!
"No mids at the top" Personally I think Duursma is a mid, he may start elsewhere but he looks comfortable moving through the middle.
"We need all mid picks" Our midfield has been poor but most of our midfield improvement next year will come from improvements from our young mids.
"CDT will take to long to develop" I would agree if played as a pure ruck, but I see him as a hybrid Ruck/mid/Fwd/Back, he could play a lot earlier than expected.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Same way harley is a utility right?

Equivocating between players that are nothing alike is a strange superpower to have but it's one you've mastered.

 

[SAweagle]

The duds taken in the top 10 in the past decade, outside of the covid years probably, are a lot less than they were a decade+ ago.

Maybe a number of them haven't lived up to expectations but the majority of them have carved out at least a decent career.

I'll take your word for it

 

[eaglevision]

Just a few general points I have found interesting!
"No mids at the top" Personally I think Duursma is a mid, he may start elsewhere but he looks comfortable moving through the middle.
"We need all mid picks" Our midfield has been poor but most of our midfield improvement next year will come from improvements from our young mids.
"CDT will take to long to develop" I would agree if played as a pure ruck, but I see him as a hybrid Ruck/mid/Fwd/Back, he could play a lot earlier than expected.

If we take CDT I’d start him in the backline round 1 next to Ginbey, Edwards, Hough, Baker and McCarthy and Starcevich as the back 7.

Duursma on a wing R1.

 

[txbyhull]

i find it humourous that we have 1 and 2 but we get 2 hybrid utilities instead of pure mids

Considering there's none worth the picks... yes. If we split and got Sharp then sure there's one but there's a very clear lack of A grade talent, let alone A grade mids

 

[ArdentEagle]

Point is clubs and recruiters are not infallible judges of talent, whether last year or 20 years ago.

It's now become far more of a fine science. The recruiters have a lot more information available to them these days.
You can see below that these players are becoming rarer because of it.

 

[bs9594]

funny clarke gets a 30 minute timeslot on gettable when the others only get 15 minutes.

 

[Bender_]

Harley as a mid = A

Harley as a utility = A-

 

[archiemoses]

Come in peace.

But Friday Twomey was interviewed by Jake from Saints TV.

He said that Phillipou was likely sliding out to the 20s of the draft and that no club was offering a F1 to trade in this year and the costs would be significantly lower to do so. (Carlton/Essendon/North broke later).

Posting as I’ve seen a number of references here about My club trading into the first round and parting with an F1.

Evidently the player we want is Jevan. But not at a cost of a first round and would go without if that was the case

Probably need an earlier pick to get him so you'll go without.

 

[Elite Pete]

funny clarke gets a 30 minute timeslot on gettable when the others only get 15 minutes.

Doubt he has 30mins. It will be rumours, ads and links after his interview finishes before the next interview.

 

[Bender_]

Doubt he has 30mins. It will be rumours, ads and links after his interview finishes before the next interview.

Yep, 23 minutes of his 30 minute timeslot will be ads.

 

[MrAsh7777]

Come in peace.

But Friday Twomey was interviewed by Jake from Saints TV.

He said that Phillipou was likely sliding out to the 20s of the draft and that no club was offering a F1 to trade in this year and the costs would be significantly lower to do so. (Carlton/Essendon/North broke later).

Posting as I’ve seen a number of references here about My club trading into the first round and parting with an F1.

Evidently the player we want is Jevan. But not at a cost of a first round and would go without if that was the case.

If Saints want Jevan, what scenario other than their F1 gets him?
Saints F2 certainly aint gonna be enough to land him, not to mention they dont even own that pick anymore...

 

[Elite Pete]

Come in peace.

But Friday Twomey was interviewed by Jake from Saints TV.

He said that Phillipou was likely sliding out to the 20s of the draft and that no club was offering a F1 to trade in this year and the costs would be significantly lower to do so. (Carlton/Essendon/North broke later).

Posting as I’ve seen a number of references here about My club trading into the first round and parting with an F1.

Evidently the player we want is Jevan. But not at a cost of a first round and would go without if that was the case.

He did say clubs like Crows and Pies will look to trade in with F1 if Sharp was still there at the Blues pick.

But if the Saints were prepared to offer an F1 it for Jnr Pou it would’ve already been done for the Blues pick.

Could also be a case of 13 + F2 for F1 ect if they really did want to get back in.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

He did say clubs like Crows and Pies will look to trade in with F1 if Sharp was still there at the Blues pick.

But if the Saints were prepared to offer an F1 it for Jnr Pou it would’ve already been done for the Blues pick.

Could also be a case of 13 + F2 for F1 ect if they really did want to get back in.

Pick 13 + F3rd for St Kilda F1st is the type of deal St Kilda can do. Otherwise theyd just go without

 

[TheBudgies]

Well, the point kinda is that they are way better today than they were 20+ years ago, going from the fact that your most recent example in that list is Nick Larkey.

Understandably hard to make the point on a guy who's had 1 season and played 15 games. Plenty of players around that 'look like bargains' though. Just not had time to be at the next level.

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

funny clarke gets a 30 minute timeslot on gettable when the others only get 15 minutes.

They need to allow time for clean-up post execution.

 

[eagles rule]

Really really hope you're right

Right or wrong they are free depth players coming out of high level training systems playing consistenly in finals ,like Starc they should know what it takes ..

 

[Elite Pete]

Saints apparently unlikely to match a bid. Blues scrambling and not being able to cash in like previous years and gain F1s and match with picks in the 40/50s, Suns and Swans unlikely being able to get all their kids. Will be interesting to see if the AFL actually changes the rules next year.

 

[mat11]

i find it humourous that we have 1 and 2 but we get 2 hybrid utilities instead of pure mids

How dare you come in here talking sense to the echo chamber