List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

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Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

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[TheBudgies]

I know Sharp won’t help us be much better next year, this rhetoric is the furthest thing from reality.

There’s not an inside mid like him that has impacted immediately across a season without breaking down.

What an asinine comment. Surely you want this bloke?

 

[Shueygod]

What an asinine comment. Surely you want this bloke?View attachment 2478345

Find me the inside mid like Sharp (I.e not Harley) that came in and made his team much better his first season?

Should have plenty to pick from, most of them higher rated

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Find me the inside mid like Sharp (I.e not Harley) that came in and made his team much better his first season?

Should have plenty to pick from, most of them higher rated

Will caveat until I’m blue in the face that I’m not a draft guy, but surely nobody in here is rating these guys based on who can help the Eagles achieve the maximum result in 2026.

There’s not an Eagles fan alive for whom that is the end goal.

 

[Shueygod]

Will caveat until I’m blue in the face that I’m not a draft guy, but surely nobody in here is rating these guys based on who can help the Eagles achieve the maximum result in 2026.

There’s not an Eagles fan alive for whom that is the end goal.

It’s a very common theme in here that people think Sharp will somehow significantly improve us next season, including the bloke I responded to.

The reality is he’s not a top 5 midfielder for any team in the league next year, including us.

It might not be the sole reason people rate Sharp but it’s a very common argument for drafting him in here.

 

[eaglevision]

It’s a very common theme in here that people think Sharp will somehow significantly improve us next season, including the bloke I responded to.

The reality is he’s not a top 5 midfielder for any team in the league next year, including us.

It might be the sole reason people rate Sharp but it’s a very common argument for drafting him.

Hang on a minute. I said he’ll improve us more than any other player in this draft would next year. I’m not expecting him to turn us into a mid 2000s WCE midfield.

It’s a bonus, not the reason we’d consider him. We’re after long term success, not a sugar hit. Sharp is very much a long term investment.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

It’s a very common theme in here that people think Sharp will somehow significantly improve us next season, including the bloke I responded to.

The reality is he’s not a top 5 midfielder for any team in the league next year, including us.

It might not be the sole reason people rate Sharp but it’s a very common argument for drafting him in here.

Apologies for presumably restarting what’s been a days/weeks/months long convo then, but are you saying you think he’s going to be a bad footballer over the journey, or just not a game changing impactful inside midfield at 18 (a thing very very very few rookies are and very very very few fans expect)

 

[Shueygod]

Hang on a minute. I said he’ll improve us more than any other player in this draft would next year. I’m not expecting him to turn us to turn in a mid 2000s WCE midfield.

It’s a bonus, not the reason we’d consider him. We’re after long term success, not a sugar hit. Sharp is very much a long term investment.

You weren’t the bloke I was referring to, I also disagree that he’ll improve us more than any other player next year.

The bloke I replied to said “especially now when he can help us be much better next year.”

 

[eaglevision]

You weren’t the bloke I was referring to, I also disagree that he’ll improve us more than any other player next year.

The bloke I replied to said “especially now when he can help us be much better next year.”

Ok fair enough I can’t speak for him but context is important there.

Which potential draftees do you see as being more impactful for us next year?

 

[Shueygod]

Apologies for presumably restarting what’s been a days/weeks/months long convo then, but are you saying you think he’s going to be a bad footballer over the journey, or just not a game changing impactful inside midfield at 18 (a thing very very very few rookies are and very very very few fans expect)

I’m saying a solid number of fans in here have stated Sharp will have an immediate impact, some going as far to suggest he’ll help keep Harley.

I think Sharp will likely end up a solid B grader.

 

[BartBart]

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/wnba/afl-mock-draft-picks-1-40-final-edition/ar-AA1QvVqZ

 

[Shueygod]

Ok fair enough I can’t speak for him but context is important there.

Which potential draftees do you see as being more impactful for us next year?

I just don’t think Sharp has a great impact next year, he won’t play inside mid enough there’s maybe 1 rookie that did without breaking down and that’s Harley.

Dovaston for example is every chance of having a better year given both will be spending 80% time forward and Dovastons a better forward.

I’d bank on Duursma having a better year.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

I’m saying a solid number of fans in here have stated Sharp will have an immediate impact, some going as far to suggest he’ll help keep Harley.

I think Sharp will likely end up a solid B grader.

This could be a reasonable stance without expecting 2026 game changing impact though, right?

Harley’s contracted until the end of Duursma/Sharp’s rookie deals. How they help support the shape and foreseeable direction of the midfield could be a pretty sizeable factor, surely?

I can see why having another running mate who (by year three) is starting to grow into a reliable-but-not-star calibre inside mid could be more appealing than waiting on a project big to develop, or a high upside low floor risk guy who might not have worked out etc etc (not naming names as again, I know **** all about the class beyond the TLDR summary of the top handful)

As an argument it seems to track to be completely fair.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

He's got a far more imposing frame than his brothers. Different beast. When he fills out he's going to run amok. We've got the good one here.

 

[eaglevision]

I just don’t think Sharp has a great impact next year, he won’t play inside mid enough there’s maybe 1 rookie that did without breaking down and that’s Harley.

Dovaston for example is every chance of having a better year given both will be spending 80% time forward and Dovastons a better forward.

I’d bank on Duursma having a better year.

Going to depend a lot on which club they all go to. Would be pretty happy if we ended up with all three of them and could actually compare them.

In my view Sharp will be more impactful than both of them by the end of next year, we can revisit then.

 

[Shueygod]

This could be a reasonable stance without expecting 2026 game changing impact though, right?

Harley’s contracted until the end of Duursma/Sharp’s rookie deals. How they help support the shape and foreseeable direction of the midfield could be a pretty sizeable factor, surely?

I can see why having another running mate who (by year three) is starting to grow into a reliable but not All Aus calibre inside mid could be more appealing than waiting on a project big to develop, or a high upside low floor risk etc etc (not naming names as again, I know **** all about the class).

As an argument it seems to track to be completely fair.

Even in his 3rd year I don’t see Sharp being much better than Dev Robbo.

It’s pretty rare these “inside bulls” are B+ in their third season.

 

[Mr Q]

4WD

I like it

Yeah, but WD40 would help get us moving smoothly again.

(He'll probably end up with something like 12 or 18)

 

[SAweagle]

Yeah, but WD40 would help get us moving smoothly again.

(He'll probably end up with something like 12 or 18)

Roses are red violets are blue
WD40 and Sharp at pick 2

 

[Shueygod]

Going to depend a lot on which club they all go to. Would be pretty happy if we ended up with all three of them and could actually compare them.

In my view Sharp will be more impactful than both of them by the end of next year, we can revisit then.

I guess it depends how much mid time you realistically expect him to play.

Aside from Harley, Serong is the only player to play significant time in the middle his first year.

I think we can both acknowledge that many other draftees will have more impact outside the contest.

Playing the averages will Sharps 20% CBA’s make up for this difference?

Happy to revisit end of next year.

 

[TheBudgies]

Find me the inside mid like Sharp (I.e not Harley) that came in and made his team much better his first season?

Should have plenty to pick from, most of them higher rated

What's the metric? If we drafted sharp then won 3 games is that 'much better' what if we won 4 but with better percentage?

Rowell is a pretty reasonable example averaged over 11 contested possessions his first month. Not sure dislocating of a shoulder in a handball while being tackled to the ground is "breaking down". Its not unreasonable to suggest that would have been good for GC if he hadn't been somewhat unlucky?

Joel Selwood wouldn't be bad to have I suppose? He did ok as a player but Geelog was pretty good already so he doesnt count?

we need to find a bad team that was fixed by having a good inside mid? So they have to have a good structure around maybe some good key forwards and some reasonable outside mids... A team that really needs an extractor to free up the x factor outside player cough * Harley cough**.

This is such an insane riddle.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

I love the idea that a bunch of multi-million dollar football clubs and professional talent evaluators who have ranked CDT as one of the top 5 prospects in this draft have somehow missed the fact that he can’t jump, can’t kick straight and has stone hands.

I mean a guy played test cricket for Australia and couldn’t bowl and couldn’t throw

 

[Shueygod]

What's the metric? If we drafted sharp then won 3 games is that 'much better' what if we won 4 but with better percentage?

Rowell is a pretty reasonable example averaged over 11 contested possessions his first month. Not sure dislocating of a shoulder in a handball while being tackled to the ground is "breaking down". Its not unreasonable to suggest that would have been good for GC if he hadn't been somewhat unlucky?

Joel Selwood wouldn't be bad to have I suppose? He did ok as a player but Geelog was pretty good already so he doesnt count?

we need to find a bad team that was fixed by having a good inside mid? So they have to have a good structure around maybe some good key forwards and some reasonable outside mids... A team that really needs an extractor to free up the x factor outside player cough * Harley cough**.

This is such an insane riddle.

You’ve named a bloke that managed four games his first year and then went back to 2007.

There’d be about 100 inside mids drafted top 10 since Selwood.

Reckon that says enough.

Inside mids don’t impact early.

 

[bzparkes]

A team that really needs an extractor to free up the x factor outside player cough * Harley cough**.

We're about to bring in MacRae and Robertson to do exactly this, then we already have Clay Hall and Tom Gross, who both do this consistently at WAFL.

 

[SAweagle]

I mean a guy played test cricket for Australia and couldn’t bowl and couldn’t throw

Wasn't much chop with the stick either

 

[Shueygod]

We're about to bring in MacRae and Robertson to do exactly this, then we already have Clay Hall and Tom Gross, who both do this consistently at WAFL.

Most/all of which will be better than Sharp next year.

 

[Avalor]

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