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List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

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Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide


Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11


Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

 
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Mongrel Punt phantom has Grlj sliding to our pick after first bidding on Murray

Grlj slides courtesy of Hawthorn taking Lindsay which is a departure from most phantoms. North (Dovaston) and GWS (Taylor) also overlook Grlj. Essendon he had taking Pickett which is why North go Dovaston

A clean kicking left footer off half back does have Mitchell vibes so it’s not totally unrealistic

I don't mind it. Would fit into minis plans nicely. Tigers have been on him all year.
 
I cant think of another mid who plays like Yeo.

190cm+, super agile, explosive with brute strength to force his way out of congestion, decent marking/aerial prowess, clearance beast, etc.
Most of the other strong/explosive inside mids dont have the agility of Yeo, and the agile ones arent as big or strong as Yeo.
Its a unique combo.

Sharp doesnt have the athletic traits of Yeo at all, theyre not even close to the same player
Sharp: “so Elliot any tips on winning the ball at the coalface”
Yeo: yeah mate just use your superior strength and burst to beat your opponent to the ball and run off with it”
Sharp: pinged HTB
 

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Remember when people once again tried to say an interstate kid was a flight risk based on absolutely nothing?

Meanwhile Willem’s doing cartwheels about the prospect of joining us.

Can not wait to see this kid in the #4.

Anyone have a clip of this?
 
Of any player in this draft we could ask for to fill Yeo's role, it would be Sharp.
Same way Flynn's filling in NicNat's role?

Again, Sharp is far closer to Redden or Jack Graham than he is Yeo. Plays nothing like him whatsoever and doesn't have remotely close to Yeo's athletic profile.

It's like how a certain, random, poster on here keeps comparing Sharp to Rowell

Rowell is an athletic beast. Is Dyson had Rowell's athletic profile he'd be talked about on the same level as Harley.

He doesn't though, hence him likely to go late in the top 10.

Will still have a good career but he's nothing like those who going the top couple.
 
I cant think of another mid who plays like Yeo.

190cm+, super agile, explosive with brute strength to force his way out of congestion, decent marking/aerial prowess, clearance beast, etc.
Most of the other strong/explosive inside mids dont have the agility of Yeo, and the agile ones arent as big or strong as Yeo.
Its a unique combo.

Sharp doesnt have the athletic traits of Yeo at all, theyre not even close to the same player
Dangerfield would be a similar fit to Yeo.
 
Role, yes sure. But they arent similar players in terms of the way they go about it.

Same way Flynn's filling in NicNat's role?

Again, Sharp is far closer to Redden or Jack Graham than he is Yeo. Plays nothing like him whatsoever and doesn't have remotely close to Yeo's athletic profile.

It's like how a certain, random, poster on here keeps comparing Sharp to Rowell

Rowell is an athletic beast. Is Dyson had Rowell's athletic profile he'd be talked about on the same level as Harley.

He doesn't though, hence him likely to go late in the top 10.

Will still have a good career but he's nothing like those who going the top couple.
Duursma is more likely to add the 10kgs to be Yeo than Sharp is to gain the athleticism.
 

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We likely have three top 5 picks to bring in an elite talent before we start to rise up the ladder and picks start to carry more risk and become more fringe in our line up. At least one of those players has to be a mid. Duursma is not a mid. He could be a mid. But he'll be outside and behind the ball for a while with no guarantee that he'll become a long term mid (his marking ability could see him better used inside the arcs rather than between them).

CDT I understand as he is a unicorn and we won't see someone like that for several more years.

Our key roles to fill now are inside and outside mids, KPD and small and medium forwards. Inside mids you get at the top of the draft, outside mids you can get a bit later, and other roles can come anywhere, usually lower in the draft.

I understand that we are likely taking Duursma and CDT but that means we have to take an elite mid next year. Ideally, we would be getting Sharp this year with a Dovaston or Thredgold, as the best players (available) in their roles, and filling the remainder of the roles next year.

If Duursma and CDT become midfielders in time, that's awesome, but we can't simply take the best players with every pick and hope they become what we want them to be. Don't get me wrong, there's a world where they become great midfielders, but there's also a world where, like Ginbey, they become very good in another role and we're still searching for proper midfielders with lower picks. Our strategy has to be balanced.
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Same way Flynn's filling in NicNat's role?

Again, Sharp is far closer to Redden or Jack Graham than he is Yeo. Plays nothing like him whatsoever and doesn't have remotely close to Yeo's athletic profile.

It's like how a certain, random, poster on here keeps comparing Sharp to Rowell

Rowell is an athletic beast. Is Dyson had Rowell's athletic profile he'd be talked about on the same level as Harley.

He doesn't though, hence him likely to go late in the top 10.

Will still have a good career but he's nothing like those who going the top couple.
Interesting comparison. Sharp is better than you give him credit for. He would be a beast alongside Harley.
 
Yeah still don’t understand why we didn’t do 13,34 and no bid on Dean for 9. If Sharp gets to that pick boy oh boy.
That’s a great deal for the Bombers.

Surely we did and Carlton thought ‘**** you for bidding on Dean that early’.

Our offer wouldve been more valuable surely? Oh well likely do a similar dance next year depending what the rules are.
 

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Interesting comparison. Sharp is better than you give him credit for. He would be a beast alongside Harley.
I'm not saying he's bad, I'm saying he's way more Jack Redden/Graham than he is Elliott Yeo.

Both still very good players with great careers but neither is pick 2 worthy, not even close.

Would you give up on Luke Jackson to drop back in the order to pick up Jack Redden, if they were in the same draft?

Of course, there's no guarantee any of these blokes will end up like their player comparisons but that's essentially the choice in front of the recruiters right now.

I don't think you'd find a recruiter for a club in the entire country who'd do that.
 
Yeah still don’t understand why we didn’t do 13,34 and no bid on Dean for 9. If Sharp gets to that pick boy oh boy.

maybe because making deals saying there is no bid on dean is illegal. why would Carlton risk it when it can have points hard in its hand? there is no guarantee that Richmond won't bid with next pick or maybe Carlton know Richmond will.

or we are going to get pick 9 anyway.
 
Sharp is good
No Sharp is bad
CDT is good
No CDT is overrated
Bock and Gunston
Clarke has no idea what he's doing
Bid on everyone!
Looks like we may end up with Addinsall
Addinsall is a better version of Sharp

Start at the top again.
But I just don't get why the club isn't telling us all their potential ideas....I JUST DON'T GET IT!!!
 
I'm not saying he's bad, I'm saying he's way more Jack Redden/Graham than he is Elliott Yeo.

Both still very good players with great careers but neither is pick 2 worthy, not even close.

Would you give up on Luke Jackson to drop back in the order to pick up Jack Redden, if they were in the same draft?

Of course, there's no guarantee any of these blokes will end up like their player comparisons but that's essentially the choice in front of the recruiters right now.

I don't think you'd find a recruiter for a club in the entire country who'd do that.
Same way Flynn's filling in NicNat's role?
You're entitled to your opinion mate
 
Interesting comparison. Sharp is better than you give him credit for. He would be a beast alongside Harley.
You're entitled to your opinion mate
Do you actually think Sharp is similar to Yeo?

Theyre completely different players bro. Yeo is closer to Dangerfield/Harley. Sharp is closer to Dunkley/Redden
 
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