List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

online.fliphtml5.com

Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[WCE777]

I'll put this up with some confidence, even if Sharp was available at our 3rd pick I am not sure we would have taken him.

Cheers, in the draft crew Massie we trust then.
Seems WC didn't rate anyone of the top mids in this draft.

I suspect we have rated Cumming somewhere in the 1st round with his more explosive traits but RICH came hard and left us with no chance at pick 13 to get a high quality mid.
J Murray & Addinsall being next best?

 

[uptheWC]

How many U18 All Australian players are still available day 2?

8 including Rodriguez and Swadling

 

[Eastern Rangers]

8 including Rodriguez and Swadling

Shows it counts for very little in the eyes of recruiters.

 

[uptheWC]

Shows it counts for very little in the eyes of recruiters.

15 have been taken already so it matches up a little more than you suggest

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Here is the look at future picks fter day 1

 

[The_Reaper]

Does anyone know why we didn't bid on Patterson at pick 4?

 

[Proeagle]

We are so trading out and back our first pick tonight for a packet of twisties.

Everyone either wants picks next year, or to trade out late picks. Not sure it will be that easy without another awful deal to trade into next year.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Interesting - Cal and others suggested we’ve considered him throughout the year. If you are able, may I ask why we wouldn’t have taken him? Low ceiling type? Footskills? Off field stuff?

Thanks as always pants for the intel.

Here is the look at future picks fter day 1

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We still have our F3, and we also have the dogs I thought?

EDIT: ah did the Saints get that. Sorry

 

[Dark Sharks]

I'll put this up with some confidence, even if Sharp was available at our 3rd pick I am not sure we would have taken him.

If that's the case, it's lot of arrogance from the worst football team of all time.

Ignoring the best contested midfielder of the draft with a CV longer than my Schlong (underselling Sharp a bit here) whilst having AFL team low rankings of

• DIsposals 18th
• Clearances 18th
• Contested possessions 18th
• Centre clearances 17th
• Stoppage clearances 18th
• Inside 50's 17th

Among many others.

Meanwhile we don't have a single midfielder who averages over 19 disposals a game in 2025. I'm not sure if that's also historically significant, but I reckon it would be.

There's head in the sand and then there's head in the sand. WCE is clearly demonstrating the latter

 

[Proeagle]

Does anyone know why we didn't bid on Patterson at pick 4?

Clark consistently said they would stick to their best players in order list. So going by that, they rated CDT higher on their list than Patterson. The Dean one is confusing though. I cant imagine they wouldve rated him higher than CDT but obviously they did. Unless of course Clark isnt being honest with everyone (shocker) and they just wanted to punish Carlton a bit.

 

[WesternDewFish]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

Spoiler

Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

online.fliphtml5.com

Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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My maths has us available to take 3 picks (if we choose).

37 on main list last year, 8 have come off, 6 on so far. That leaves 3 spots available to get up to the maximum 38.

I might be missing something in relation to holding extra rookie spots though...

 

[Underdog]

Shows it counts for very little in the eyes of recruiters.

Yep, I'm still not sure that people really understand that underage and lower level football is a very different beast. What may work very well at the lower level mightn't work particularly well at the higher level...and vice versa.

That's without even considering the impacts of maturing bodies and brains.

Also, a player may play a more flank/wing role at underage level and still be a better midfield prospect than a bloke who plays there 100%.

 

[Mr Q]

Beau Addinsall at pick 18 after Gold Coast cant afford to match him with Paterson going at 3

Lets not ignore when the failure began to focus on the end point.

Much better to waste everyone's time last focusing on something we can elevate to being an absolute catastrophe that will clearly be the straw that causes us to get the next 16 spoons.

(Or really just means we have one less 30+ draft pick next year)

 

[Keys]

Assuming a bid on Williams doesn’t come before pick 29

Are we better drafting a player with that pick from the names that have been discussed or finding a buyer willing to part with their 2026 R2 pick?

1) Player X + Williams (match with pick 34) and hope Banfield and Evans get through

2) 2026 R2 + Williams (match bid with pick 34) + Banfield (bid or no bid) and hope Evans gets through

Option 2 would also leave a rookie spot to fill with either Wes Walley, pick 1 in the RD or left option for a train on player assessment

My own preference would be option 2 provided it’s a F2 as a minimum because it guarantees us the ability to match a late Banfield bid who I personally don’t think is that far behind the players available at 29. It also replaces the F2 we traded last night and another list spot to consider our options with

Walk out with
• Duursma
• Duff-Tytler
• Lindsay
• Williams
• Banfield
• Evans
• TBA
• Still have all our 2026 picks plus an extra R2 pick to replace the now defunct Saints Death Ride Thread

Twenty four hours ago o would have taken that no questions asked

 

[KBLT]

I won't publicly say.

Bit of a JHF type?
A Willie Rioli type?
A Noah Balta type?
None of the above?
No comment?

 

[pantskyle]

If that's the case, it's lot of arrogance from the worst football team of all time.

Ignoring the best contested midfielder of the draft with a CV longer than my Schlong (underselling Sharp a bit here) whilst having AFL team low rankings of

• DIsposals 18th
• Clearances 18th
• Contested possessions 18th
• Centre clearances 17th
• Stoppage clearances 18th
• Inside 50's 17th

Among many others.

Meanwhile we don't have a single midfielder who averages over 19 disposals a game in 2025. I'm not sure if that's also historically significant, but I reckon it would be.

There's head in the sand and then there's head in the sand. WCE is clearly demonstrating the latter

Yeah very interesting.

 

[Yeahnahmate]

If that's the case, it's lot of arrogance from the worst football team of all time.

Ignoring the best contested midfielder of the draft with a CV longer than my Schlong (underselling Sharp a bit here) whilst having AFL team low rankings of

• DIsposals 18th
• Clearances 18th
• Contested possessions 18th
• Centre clearances 17th
• Stoppage clearances 18th
• Inside 50's 17th

Among many others.

Meanwhile we don't have a single midfielder who averages over 19 disposals a game in 2025. I'm not sure if that's also historically significant, but I reckon it would be.

There's head in the sand and then there's head in the sand. WCE is clearly demonstrating the latter

Nope, what if the strategy was to take best available 1&2 (they did) and then the options for our third were not considered as our bona fide ball winning contested mid of the next flag tilt - and we are looking to next years draft to secure that?

I tell you what, there is some delicious pieces in place now for transitioning the ball if we add that next

 

[Jootube]

Worth it to miss one of our NGAs, a few of them are just clearly better imo

This is pretty much bang on.

My list is:

1. Jevan Phillipou
2. Oliver Greeves
3. Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves
4. Archie Ludowyke
5. Max King (Swans)
6. Blake Thredgold
7. Jack Ison (Blues)
8. Louis Emmett
9. Fred Rodriguez

We can assume Emmett is non-starter due to CDT and next year's talls.

That leaves:

• Jevan Phillipou
• Oliver Greeves
• Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves
• Archie Ludowyke
• Blake Thredgold
• Fred Rodriguez

If we ended up with one of Poo, Greeves or Fred we'd be pretty damn happy IMO

 

[Suma Magic]

If we can get a 2026 second for pick 29 I think we definitely should do it.

 

[dinnaz]

How many U18 All Australian players are still available day 2?

 

[pantskyle]

Bit of a JHF type?
A Willie Rioli type?
A Noah Balta type?
None of the above?
No comment?

 

[Yeahnahmate]

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And I go NHH on talent and ceiling over the lot of those

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

I'll have to temper my expectations when i see CDT for the first time next year because he is a ruckman.

I remember being at Subi with my Dad when they rolled out Michael Gardiner after taking him with pick 1 and he was like a Giraffe. Gangly, unco-ordinated, easily pushed around by other big men. I remember saying to my Dad on the way home "I can't believe we blew pick 1 on that". But then he went on to be maybe on a par with NicNat as the second best ruckman we have had. So it's hard to make reasonable initial assessments of them.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

We must be pretty pessimistic about the talent, including our NGAs, if we're going to leave a pick on the table.

They're either underestimating the draft or overestimating our list. Perhaps both.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Assuming a bid on Williams doesn’t come before pick 29

Are we better drafting a player with that pick from the names that have been discussed or finding a buyer willing to part with their 2026 R2 pick?

1) Player X + Williams (match with pick 34) and hope Banfield and Evans get through

2) 2026 R2 + Williams (match bid with pick 34) + Banfield (bid or no bid) and hope Evans gets through

Option 2 would also leave a rookie spot to fill with either Wes Walley, pick 1 in the RD or left option for a train on player assessment

My own preference would be option 2 provided it’s a F2 as a minimum because it guarantees us the ability to match a late Banfield bid who I personally don’t think is that far behind the players available at 29. It also replaces the F2 we traded last night and another list spot to consider our options with

Walk out with
• Duursma
• Duff-Tytler
• Lindsay
• Williams
• Banfield
• Evans
• TBA
• Still have all our 2026 picks plus an extra R2 pick to replace the now defunct Saints Death Ride Thread

Twenty four hours ago o would have taken that no questions asked

Option 2 is a belter if we get lucky on Banfield.

And I think everyone would also gladly take an F1 coming in with our F2 going out if someone (St Kilda?) got crazy for a prospect.

Option 2 thanks Keys, make it happen.