Welcome Welcome to St Kilda - Liam Ryan!

[Dard Ball Get]

I don't understand this reference

 

[Obeanie1]

Only if Lance wants to put the work in ,

Only if Ryan puts in the work.

Liam is notorious for not liking the heavy preseason running loads. Will almost on que pick up a minor leg injury that stops him pushing hard in preseason early.

When the balls come out he becomes engaged.

Often takes 4 to 6 weeks longer to catch up and get match fit in season.

So not exactly the mentor you want for Collard during preseason.

In season once he gets match fit, different player than early preseason.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Only if Ryan puts in the work.

Liam is notorious for not liking the heavy preseason running loads. Will almost on que pick up a minor leg injury that stops him pushing hard in preseason early.

When the balls come out he becomes engaged.

Often takes 4 to 6 weeks longer to catch up and get match fit in season.

So not exactly the mentor you want for Collard during preseason.

In season once he gets match fit, different player than early preseason.

Ryan kicked 9 goals in his first 5 games in 2025 - pretty tidy results for a half fit player.

Thankfully its an easy solution for the Saints now - Higgo can play a bit further up the ground until Ryan gets fully fit then they can rotate at will.

 

[Obeanie1]

Ryan kicked 9 goals in his first 5 games in 2025 - pretty tidy results for a half fit player.

Thankfully its an easy solution for the Saints now - Higgo can play a bit further up the ground until Ryan gets fully fit then they can rotate at will.

You will see and work it out soon enough.

 

[Hayes4PM]

You will see and work it out soon enough.

 

[Obeanie1]

You got me.

I personally am responsibke for Ryan historically not putting in pre Christmas pre season running loads. Its actually why he requested a trade. All should be perfectly fine now. You have norhing to be concerned about. Happy days.

 

[Saints43]

You got me.

I personally am responsibke for Ryan historically not putting in pre Christmas pre season running loads. Its actually why he requested a trade. All should be perfectly fine now. You have norhing to be concerned about. Happy days.

Okay. Thanks for letting us know that West Coast let players not complete their fitness plans and then play the first five rounds to get fit.
That might be a localised issue.
I don't think it's a thing at other clubs.

 

[BarkerFan]

Only if Ryan puts in the work.

Liam is notorious for not liking the heavy preseason running loads. Will almost on que pick up a minor leg injury that stops him pushing hard in preseason early.

When the balls come out he becomes engaged.

Often takes 4 to 6 weeks longer to catch up and get match fit in season.

So not exactly the mentor you want for Collard during preseason.

In season once he gets match fit, different player than early preseason.

Gresham also used to get "niggles" during pre season running program, and was never fit enough. Ross showed him the door pretty quickly. It will be interesting to see if we can get Liam 10% or 20% fitter than normal this preseason, just keeping him in the program.

No-one expects him to beat Darcy Wilson but if he can get through the sessions at a steady rate it may be show in the games.. anyway.. lets see how he goes

 

[gringo2011]

Gresham also used to get "niggles" during pre season running program, and was never fit enough. Ross showed him the door pretty quickly. It will be interesting to see if we can get Liam 10% or 20% fitter than normal this preseason, just keeping him in the program.

No-one expects him to beat Darcy Wilson but if he can get through the sessions at a steady rate it may be show in the games.. anyway.. lets see how he goes

Gresham just looked lost under Ross Lyon. He was a guy who played on instinct and his inability to fit into the system seemed to destroy his confidence. I think it was form not fitness that pushed him out.

Ryan looks like a burst athlete not an endurance beast. He doesn't need to run a marathon, just keep his sprint game tight and he's a huge asset. We didn't buy a sports car to tow a caravan.

 

[paul_willo]

Gresham just looked lost under Ross Lyon. He was a guy who played on instinct and his inability to fit into the system seemed to destroy his confidence. I think it was form not fitness that pushed him out.

Ryan looks like a burst athlete not an endurance beast. He doesn't need to run a marathon, just keep his sprint game tight and he's a huge asset. We didn't buy a sports car to tow a caravan.

Gresham has also looked lost at Essendon, been dropped and used as the sub.
His problem is not having a position... doesn't have the tank for midfield and isn't dangerous enough for a small forward

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Gresham has also looked lost at Essendon, been dropped and used as the sub.
His problem is not having a position... doesn't have the tank for midfield and isn't dangerous enough for a small forward

Gresh's issue is that he lost his One Wood... his agility.

The achilles totally destroyed his career.

 

[FQFjt]

Gresh's issue is that he lost his One Wood... his agility.

The achilles totally destroyed his career.

Correct. We weren't all collectively delusional when we used to rate him highly.

 

[gringo2011]

Correct. We weren't all collectively delusional when we used to rate him highly.

He looked a certainty to be an absolute gun early on. Match winner, X factor, energy etc. He seemed to go a long way backwards when Lyon took over. I think the achilles was a big part of it but it was like it sucked all his mojo out and lost confidence.