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They’re all very short term options. The next wave will be better. You could put Jhye, Bartlett and O’Neill out of the A game and expect them to fair better.
Yeah this is why I don’t rate the Root 100 nor Englands batting lineup.

Been very lucky this series, winning both coin tosses and facing state bowlers, yet still find themselves chasing the series.
 
Yeah this is why I don’t rate the Root 100 nor Englands batting lineup.

Been very lucky this series, winning both coin tosses and facing state bowlers, yet still find themselves chasing the series.
It was a sublime innings from an all time great of the game.
 

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They’re all very short term options. The next wave will be better. You could put Jhye, Bartlett and O’Neill out of the A game and expect them to fair better.
Richardson breaks down more often than an English fast bowler.

And the other two are worse Shield bowlers than Doggett, so how would they improve the line up?
 
It's the mindset of not wanting to bat and making it obvious that everyone watching knows it.

What's worse? Chasing 280 and being 1/10

or going out to bat tomorrow chasing 340 if we are lucky.

And also do bowlers really want to warm up and go out just to bowl 2 overs.

As people have mentioned if so then Stokes would have declared.
 

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Richardson breaks down more often than an English fast bowler.
Richardson's injury hasn't caused him many issues with bowling, it's throwing he's had issues with which you can deal with.

He's coming back from surgery which I believe has fixed the ongoing issue with his shoulder though
 
Doesn't help when he is ordered to bowl short trash. He got into the team bowling full not this bullshit

Even his first spell was rubbish when he was bowling full completely non threatening
 
I think the idea from Smith will be that we only bat once. Nesar and Inglis stiffen the batting order some.

It'd be nice to walk out tomorrow and the day after and hit 600 odd, with Carey getting a cheeky 150 on day 3.

Bold plan to only bat once with the inevitable Aussie collapse somewhere along the line.

Making it through tomorrow evening will be an fair effort.
 
I think it's time Travis Head was given the keys to the captaincy. Smith made some pretty ordinary decisions in that final session. Smith doesn't NEED to be captain, he can focus on his batting. AUS need new ideas - fresh set of eyes. Alex Carey can be vice-captain.
 
I think that was part of the issue, outside Starc and at times Boland everybody else lacked penetration to really cause any concern for a player of Root's stature. Take Starc's wickets away and the run out the others took 2 wickets between them. Cummins and Hazlewood is a totally different proposition. Both bowl faster and get bounce. We need them badly.

Yep one of them and Lyon. It’s why it’s insane to not play Lyon. At worst it gets 20 plus tight overs
 

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It's the mindset of not wanting to bat and making it obvious that everyone watching knows it.
Reckon there was a bit of a tactical win for the Poms

Kitted everyone up in whites as though they were about to declare and bowl. We take our foot off the gas a fraction, waiting. Then it doesn't come and we've lost control.
 
Pitch is a road..we will make 500+

Not sure where this confidence in our batting attack is coming from. When was the last time we even made 350? Was it 12 months ago?
 
He couldn’t have asked for better conditions.

Soft pink ball against a second rate bowling attack. I don’t rate it at all.
If you're writing off test match 100s because they came in good batting conditions - that's an enormous percentage of test match hundreds you'd need to write off.
 
They're referring to him ****ing shit up with his social skills and not his tactics

No doubt Clarke has lots of problems off the field but on it he had good tactics and would never have put 9 guys on the fence like that
 
What's worse? Chasing 280 and being 1/10
An extra 60 runs in what should be prime batting conditions won't matter as much as some are making it out to IMO. It's hard to find a better batting surface than Day 2 at the Gabba.

Yes it's less than ideal but I reckon we would've been 2 or 3 down if we had to bat for more than 2 overs tonight.

You've got a bloke in his 2nd test and a bloke who has opened once facing one of the fastest bowlers on the planet, at what is statistically the hardest time to bat.

I think Jofra would've wreaked havoc if he bowled tonight.
 
It doesn't cost us penalty points until England bat for over 160 overs in both innings combined.

It should be penalty points no matter what. They need to start suspending players hard. If footballers can run cricketers can move faster between overs.
 

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