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dogwatch said:
Sorry but I disagree TK. That provides no more perspective than saying NM women’s winning streak is an AFL/AFLW record.

For obvious reasons we can’t seriously compare the two comps and I think we should acknowledge that. One has over 125 years of development, evolution, fierce competitiveness and history. It has spawned a hugely competitive breeding ground of juniors. The other is a fledgling comp still in its infancy and neither the comp nor the individual teams are genuinely settled and balanced yet. Junior girls footy as a feeder is still developing.

My understanding (correct me if I’m wrong) is that a good proportion of those who have joined the AFLW ranks over the last decade - especially in its early years - are teenage (or older) converts from other sports. That’s nothing like the competitive peer environment that the Wests, the Hawkins and the Bontempellis emerged from as juniors and stood head and shoulders above as adults.

None of that is to deny Ellie her laurels. She is a deserving legend of our women’s side and our club.

I’d much rather regard Ellie in her own context. In terms of her ChrisGrant-like loyalty (in spite of what would have been huge inducements to follow all those others who turned their backs on us) and what she has achieved as a player, a leader and a role model. Despite missing a season with a ruptured ACL.

But if comparisons really are in order, then within our AFLW ranks there’s noone who comes near her. And I reckon it’ll be a while before any woman emerges who does.
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She's won them against her own peers, just like Bont or West did. That's all you can do.

Agreed it's a fledgling competition, but nobody denigrates (not that you are) bnfs won in the early days of the VFL/AFL.
 

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dogwatch said:
It has been so badly curated from the moment it expanded beyond the only two clubs that showed real pioneering commitment to women’s football- us and Melbourne FC.
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If you have a look into norths history with women’s football, you’ll see that the AFL did everything they could to exclude us from the initial batch of teams.

Adding the disgusting “Tasmania” to our AFLW was the only way we could get it over the line come expansion time.

But prior to that North were massive advocates of women’s footy via Melbourne Uni.

But I agree with your “**** the AFL” sentiment
 
Do we look at Hatchard
 
Bulldogs85 said:
Haha North Melbourne have offered pick 37 hope the club tell them to get ****ed

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Former No.1 pick's trade hopes in danger as negotiations break down

Kristie-Lee Weston-Turner may have to nominate for the draft if a deal can't be struck
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Not surprised with this news.

The Lions and Hawks both have 2nd round picks ahead of North and would be likely to draft her before 37.

Cann didn't even finish in the top 10 of the Pies' B+F this season despite playing every game and their team being utterly woeful.

They can also get ****ed and they can deal with the consequences of having a disgruntled player in 2026. A second round pick for her is fair.
 
Prince Imperial said:
Not surprised with this news.

The Lions and Hawks both have 2nd round picks ahead of North and would be likely to draft her before 37.

Cann didn't even finish in the top 10 of the Pies' B+F this season despite playing every game and their team being utterly woeful.

They can also get ****ed and they can deal with the consequences of having a disgruntled player in 2026. A second round pick for her is fair.
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I would be fine if the club walks away from the Cann deal if Collingwood are heel bent on pick 8. As for KWT I would be happy to send her to the draft pick 37 is laughable
 

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Bulldogs85 said:
Haha North Melbourne have offered pick 37 hope the club tell them to get ****ed

www.afl.com.au

Former No.1 pick's trade hopes in danger as negotiations break down

Kristie-Lee Weston-Turner may have to nominate for the draft if a deal can't be struck
www.afl.com.au www.afl.com.au
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Not surprised, they got most of their list coming into the competition for free, many played in this years premiership. Laura Kane played for Norf, did she not, maybe Francis Burke was referring to her, when he talked about shite sandwich this pioneering club got handed trading our players when Norf came in, and in true Norf form trying to claim the AFLW was their innovation.🙄
 
Dogs_r_barking said:
Not surprised, they got most of their list coming into the competition for free, many played in this years premiership. Laura Kane played for Norf, did she not, maybe Francis Burke was referring to her, when he talked about shite sandwich this pioneering club got handed trading our players when Norf came in, and in true Norf form trying to claim the AFLW was their innovation.🙄
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Laura Kane never played AFLW but she did play for Melbourne University I Think North Melbourne have links with that University in someway
 
If North value her so highly, they can pay up, if not let her walk to the draft. Pick 37 is largely irrelevant to us, and I would much rather us take the moral high ground than get the last pick of round 2. Any picks after around the 35 mark are largely meaningless for us in the context of this draft. Our mission is to get Cann and use our first on a young tall. Our current list is not far off it, and we don't need to be digging deep in this draft, we can afford to ruffle feathers.

In fact, I would happily use our second pick to select Weston-Turner again just to make sure she doesn't go to North. If she takes us to court fine, but there is no way she'll be able to get North that way.

No more being nice, might as well play some games with the top side. I don't want to hear any of this "she'll only play at North" business. If you want to play at North you have to make sure you get a deal done, and if you nominate for the draft, you have to accept that you could be drafted anywhere.

This isn't a Rennie (or Dunkey/Smith in our men's program) situation, the ball is totally in our court on this. Every step of the way, we have ways to block her getting to North, if a fair deal can't be agreed upon, and we should absolutely use them if it comes to that. As I said earlier, we aren't desperate for late picks and even though her value won't be as high as it could've been if we actually played her, we still shouldn't just settle for anything. This is a unique situation, and if we're smart we can dictate the outcome.

Regardless of what happens though, we should be making as much noise as we can about this, show the competition that we're not messing around anymore and won't just be pushed to the side of the road.
 
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Peter Wallis said:
If I was KWT I would be questioning how much North really want her. For a number 1 pick in 2023 to now be worth pick 37 in a modest draft is an insult to her let alone us. Maybe she should re evaluate where she wants to play.
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Just expecting some goodwill after we paid overs for Caleb Daniel
 

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