Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 6

[kirky]

If you allow yourself to actually follow what's happening the majority of the country is heavily protected by the armed forces. But because the head idiot wanted to take over the supreme court he wasn't watching the ball. If all checkpoints were properly operating with the same force as Jerusalem and the Gaza strip they would have been repelled.

And if I'm on the wrong side bud that's your weird one sided opinion. Now were's that thumbs down.

Interesting point, Bibi had Mossad Intelligence Service and the sophisticated Israeli army at his disposal and yet they weren’t aware of what was about to unfold on October 7th and over 1251 young people died and over 200 hostage.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Come on man, you are a lefty. It's ok to admit it. I said all religions are not the same. It is war! Many different religions live peacefully together in parts of Israel. The best Muslims are the lukewarm ones, the ones that follow it like they are meant to are dangerous. The complete opposite is true for a Christian.

This is just ****n laughable.. please dont tell me you delusional beleive christians are some perfectly innocent party in all this?

The problem is not christianity or Islam..

The problem is the hard right deeply conservative fringe elements of both the islamic and christian faiths..

Or are you that disingenous and ignorant that you think hardline islamists are somehow from this “left” you are so against?..

Look at the ideologies of the hardline christians and hardline islamists.. take a real fcckn hard look.. they are essentially exactly the same.. just a different sky fairy!

Extreme islamists, like Hamas, are hard righties that simply follow a different religion to the hard right christians..

Thats the most bizarre part of this entire arguement..

We have the hardline extreme side of christianity fighting the hardline extreme side of Islam..

And yet somehow… its this mysterious “left” (who are actually just all the people that disagree with both these moronic extreme hard right sides of these two religions) that are somehow to blame for these two sides atrocities against each other!..

If it wasnt so serious.. it would be ****n hilarious!

You need to wake up..

The problem isnt this “left” you delusionally rally against.. its hard right conservative christians and hard right conservative islamists.. but I suspect that you would never admit to this because it would result in you having to admit you have been a part of the problem all along..

You took a side instead of condemning both sides.

Christianity and Islam are both peaceful religions.. its the hard right minority factions of both religions that are the problem.

The sooner you realise this the better.

 

[BRL121]

This is just ****n laughable.. please dont tell me you delusional beleive christians are some perfectly innocent party in all this?

The problem is not christianity or Islam..

The problem is the hard right deeply conservative fringe elements of both the islamic and christian faiths..

Or are you that disingenous and ignorant that you think hardline islamists are somehow from this “left” you are so against?..

Look at the ideologies of the hardline christians and hardline islamists.. take a real fcckn hard look.. they are essentially exactly the same.. just a different sky fairy!

Extreme islamists, like Hamas, are hard righties that simply follow a different religion to the hard right christians..

Thats the most bizarre part of this entire arguement..

We have the hardline extreme side of christianity fighting the hardline extreme side of Islam..

And yet somehow… its this mysterious “left” (who are actually just all the people that disagree with both these moronic extreme hard right sides of these two religions) that are somehow to blame for these two sides atrocities against each other!..

If it wasnt so serious.. it would be ****n hilarious!

You need to wake up..

The problem isnt this “left” you delusionally rally against.. its hard right conservative christians and hard right conservative islamists.. but I suspect that you would never admit to this because it would result in you having to admit you have been a part of the problem all along..

You took a side instead of condemning both sides.

Christianity and Islam are both peaceful religions.. its the hard right minority factions of both religions that are the problem.

The sooner you realise this the better.

The problem is you. Isn't the issue between Judaism and Islam? What have Christians got to do with it?

I know your sky-fairy theories, which I don't disagree with, but dragging the Christians into this is a very big stretch.

 

[Fax]

This is just ****n laughable.. please dont tell me you delusional beleive christians are some perfectly innocent party in all this?

The problem is not christianity or Islam..

The problem is the hard right deeply conservative fringe elements of both the islamic and christian faiths..

Or are you that disingenous and ignorant that you think hardline islamists are somehow from this “left” you are so against?..

Look at the ideologies of the hardline christians and hardline islamists.. take a real fcckn hard look.. they are essentially exactly the same.. just a different sky fairy!

Extreme islamists, like Hamas, are hard righties that simply follow a different religion to the hard right christians..

Thats the most bizarre part of this entire arguement..

We have the hardline extreme side of christianity fighting the hardline extreme side of Islam..

And yet somehow… its this mysterious “left” (who are actually just all the people that disagree with both these moronic extreme hard right sides of these two religions) are somehow to blame for these two sides atrocities against each other!..

If it wasnt so serious.. it would be ****n hilarious!

You need to wake up..

The problem isnt this “left” you delusionally rally against.. its hard right conservative christians and hard right conservative islamists.. but I suspect that you would never admit to this because it would result in you having to admit you have been a part of the problem all along..

You took a side instead of condemning both sides.

Christianity and Islam are both peaceful religions.. its the hard right minority factions of both religions that are the problem.

The sooner you realise this the better.

Please take your meds! You just posted a whole bunch of garbage. I'm not sure I can be bothered picking that all apart. When did I say the left is Islam? When did I say it's all the lefts fault? I said he was a lefty, which he is. The hard left is a cult and you kinda proved it by your highly triggered response. No, both religions are not the same. Christianity and Islam are nothing alike, you know nothing about either religion if you think that. Educate yourself if you're going to be self righteous. That's the problem with the far left is you think you have the high moral ground based on your feelings. You're delusional thinking Christians are fighting Muslims right now. Where is this happening? In your head? IF that's the case Christians are doing a terrible job. Please read a book, go outside and get out of your lefty bubble and wake up.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Please take your meds! You just posted a whole bunch of garbage. I'm not sure I can be bothered picking that all apart. When did I say the left is Islam? When did I say it's all the lefts fault? I said he was a lefty, which he is. The hard left is a cult and you kinda proved it by your highly triggered response. No, both religions are not the same. Christianity and Islam are nothing alike, you know nothing about either religion if you think that. Educate yourself if you're going to be self righteous. That's the problem with the far left is you think you have the high moral ground based on your feelings. You're delusional thinking Christians are fighting Muslims right now. Where is this happening? In your head? IF that's the case Christians are doing a terrible job. Please read a book, go outside and get out of your lefty bubble and wake up.

The problem?.. its obvious what the problem is and it isnt the “left” at all you muppet.. the left are the side that doesn't believe in sky fairies at all and dont even follow the religions that are born from the belief in them. The left doesn't go around killing people all in the name of these mythical sky fairies.

The problem is the ****n hard right fundamental religious morons (that are actually only a small fringe element of these religions) that are currently fighting and killing each other in the name of these very same sky fairies.

How is this so difficult for you to comprehend?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

All religions are dangerous when taken to extremes - more people have died in the name of religion over the centuries.

Think you are a bit naive.

As I said before not all Israeli’s are Jews.

Bibi is not a good person and he will eventually be held accountable. He doesn’t want a two State Solution, he has said that publicly.

For someone who preaches to others about naivety ......you've done scant research on the subject

The Palestinians were offered a 2-State Solution by Bill Clinton .....your guy ....and they rejected the 2-state solution

Tell me why ? ......it must be obvious that peace is not being sought by the Palestinians .....just read the World news from all Countries

Even after a ceasefire, hostilities still hasn't changed ......western thinkers, have never understood the thinking of middle eastern people

 

[Fax]

The problem?.. its obvious what the problem is and it isnt the “left” at all you muppet.. the left are the side that doesn't believe in sky fairies at all and dont even follow the religions that are born from the belief in them. The left doesn't go around killing people all in the name of these mythical sky fairies.

The problem is the ****n hard right fundamental religious morons (that are actually only a small fringe element of these religions) that are currently fighting and killing each other in the name of these very same sky fairies.

How is this so difficult for you to comprehend?

No, the left just kills other people because they can't handle facts or a different opinion..You keep thinking the left are somehow morally superior. Also some people on the left do believe in various religions, the far left on the other hand is a cult. Two different groups. I think you are creating your own arguments on things I haven't said. Enjoy the night mate, get outside and enjoy life!

 

[WaynesWorld19]

The problem?.. its obvious what the problem is and it isnt the “left” at all you muppet.. the left are the side that doesn't believe in sky fairies at all and dont even follow the religions that are born from the belief in them. The left doesn't go around killing people all in the name of these mythical sky fairies.

The problem is the ****n hard right fundamental religious morons (that are actually only a small fringe element of these religions) that are currently fighting and killing each other in the name of these very same sky fairies.

How is this so difficult for you to comprehend?

I find it sad and comical, that people argue about these type of situations from their political beliefs perspective .....and not on the merit of an argument presented

It's impossible to have a discussion, if people are not receptive to an alternate POV .......you have this belief you can sway people away from their belief system, generally an ingrained set of beliefs .......that's just naive

Now you get angry, because people don't think like you .....so you yell, thinking that will sway the argument .....then attack the person

All you've actually done is destroyed any credibility on the subject you may have felt you had

 

[Bearded Clam]

No, the left just kills other people because they can't handle facts or a different opinion..You keep thinking the left are somehow morally superior. Also some people on the left do believe in various religions, the far left on the other hand is a cult. Two different groups. I think you are creating your own arguments on things I haven't said. Enjoy the night mate, get outside and enjoy life!

The left follows religion?.. **** me. You are drawing a long bow now..
What religion does this “left” actually follow?

Actually.. because you seem to struggle with the basics..
Lets break it down even further.. make it as basic as we possibly can for you..

We have two “blokes”. One is called “Hamas”.. the other is called “Israel”..
They are in a boxing ring right now having a fight.

Watching on is this bloke you call “Lefty”.. he really has no idea why he is forced to watch on but Lefty is watching on and thinking “what the **** are these two morons fighting over?”..

Ultimately.. Who is to blame for this fight?..

If we were listen to your utterly delusional nonsense… it would be “Lefty”.. the bloke who is sitting on the sidelines wondering just what the actual **** “Hamas” and “Israel” are fighting over.

Surely.. Any normal person that isn't biased would be blaming Hamas and Israel for this fight.. after all.. its these two that are having the fight.. not Lefty.Lefty is just watching on.

But not you.. no.. for some strange reason you are blaming Lefty!, who didnt start the fight, wants absolutely no part of it and has no skin in the game whatsoever.. for the fight.

Now.. i’m not sure I can dumb that down any further than that for you. Its almost at preschool levels of simplicity.. but are you starting to get it?

I see Hamas and Israel as equally responsible for this fight. i see both as being fcckn pathetic genocidal grubs that should be equally condemned. And I dont follow any religion or believe in any fairy in the sky at all..

And if that makes me one of these “lefty” people in your black and white view if the world.. then so be it..

 

[Bearded Clam]

I find it sad and comical, that people argue about these type of situations from their political beliefs perspective .....and not on the merit of an argument presented

It's impossible to have a discussion, if people are not receptive to an alternate POV .......you have this belief you can sway people away from their belief system, generally an ingrained set of beliefs .......that's just naive

Now you get angry, because people don't think like you .....so you yell, thinking that will sway the argument .....then attack the person

All you've actually done is destroyed any credibility on the subject you may have felt you had

Bahahahaha!.. Pot, meet Kettle!..

Thats ****n rich coming from you wayne!..

 

[Fax]

The left follows religion?.. **** me. You are drawing a long bow now..
What religion does this “left” actually follow?

Actually.. because you seem to struggle with the basics..
Lets break it down even further.. make it as basic as we possibly can for you..

We have two “blokes”. One is called “Hamas”.. the other is called “Israel”..
They are in a boxing ring right now having a fight.

Watching on is this bloke you call “Lefty”.. he really has no idea why he is forced to watch on but Lefty is watching on and thinking “what the **** are these two morons fighting over?”..

Ultimately.. Who is to blame for this fight?..

If we were listen to your utterly delusional nonsense… it would be “Lefty”.. the bloke who is sitting on the sidelines wondering just what the actual **** “Hamas” and “Israel” are fighting over.

Surely.. Any normal person that isn't biased would be blaming Hamas and Israel for this fight.. after all.. its these two that are having the fight.. not Lefty.Lefty is just watching on.

But not you.. no.. for some strange reason you are blaming Lefty!, who didnt start the fight, wants absolutely no part of it and has no skin in the game whatsoever.. for the fight.

Now.. i’m not sure I can dumb that down any further than that for you. Its almost at preschool levels of simplicity.. but are you starting to get it?

I see Hamas and Israel as equally responsible for this fight. i see both as being fcckn pathetic genocidal grubs that should be equally condemned. And I dont follow any religion or believe in any fairy in the sky at all..

And if that makes me one of these “lefty” people in your black and white view if the world.. then so be it..

WTF, I think you've got some problems pal. Good luck!

 

[WaynesWorld19]

No, the left just kills other people because they can't handle facts or a different opinion..You keep thinking the left are somehow morally superior. Also some people on the left do believe in various religions, the far left on the other hand is a cult. Two different groups. I think you are creating your own arguments on things I haven't said. Enjoy the night mate, get outside and enjoy life!

It's interesting, research was done around the year 2000, which indicated an ambivalence by the younger generations to politics .....complete disinterest ....most couldn't tell you the names of parliamentary leaders, nevermind an opinion on World Affairs

Fast-forward, and Social Media / Internet springs up .....now, everyone's an expert in World Affairs

 

[Bearded Clam]

I’m sorry.. but how have we arrived at this point?

Where the non religious.. this mysterious “left” who have nothing to do with this religious fight. Didnt start it. Dont want it.. Want it to stop right ****n now.. and are disgusted by the genocidal actions of both sides in the fight..
are somehow the bad guys?..

Its bewildering.

What alternative fxxkn universe are we all living in here?

 

[Fax]

It's interesting, research was done around the year 2000, which indicated an ambivalence by the younger generations to politics .....complete disinterest ....most couldn't tell you the names of parliamentary leaders, nevermind an opinion on World Affairs

Fast-forward, and Social Media / Internet springs up .....now, everyone's an expert in World Affairs

His reading comprehension seems to be non-existent

 

[Bearded Clam]

His reading comprehension seems to be non-existent

The only one with reading and comprehendion deficiencies is you.

You somehow think everyone should take your side in this fight.. and if they dont, they are a “lefty”.

Thats what you stated from the very start.when you claimed Kirky was a “lefty”.

Are you that ignorant that you cant comprehend that many of us see both sides as equally disgusting and don't think either side is worthy of support?

 

[Peter Doherty]

Interesting point, Bibi had Mossad Intelligence Service and the sophisticated Israeli army at his disposal and yet they weren’t aware of what was about to unfold on October 7th and over 1251 young people died and over 200 hostage.

A False Flag?

 

[Bearded Clam]

The problem is you. Isn't the issue between Judaism and Islam? What have Christians got to do with it?

I know your sky-fairy theories, which I don't disagree with, but dragging the Christians into this is a very big stretch.

Come on.. i know you arent that naive BRL121.

The Isreali’s are 100% backed by the christian nation of America.

Without the US encouraging them and supplying them with high tech weapons.. Israel wouldve been reduced to a smoldering crater in the ground decades ago.

What we need is the world to, figuratively speaking, grab these two nations, bang their heads together like two naughty school children and tell them to pull their heads in.

but people, and nations, continue to take sides in this petty war. Which simply enables both sides to continue.

And just how have we got to the point where the people, like me, who refuse to take either side in this petty conflict and want it end, are seen as “the problem”?..
Can anyone here answer that?

 

[George CantStandYa]

So Sydney police have received a tip and arrested a car with 7 blokes on their way to commit a violent act. They look very similar to the terrorists from the other night……

 

[kirky]

For someone who preaches to others about naivety ......you've done scant research on the subject

The Palestinians were offered a 2-State Solution by Bill Clinton .....your guy ....and they rejected the 2-state solution

Tell me why ? ......it must be obvious that peace is not being sought by the Palestinians .....just read the World news from all Countries

Even after a ceasefire, hostilities still hasn't changed ......western thinkers, have never understood the thinking of middle eastern people

Jeezus, you are going back 3 decades. FMD!

What happened then is not relevant now.

You just concentrate on Nicks, a subject you know just a tad more about and I mean just a little bit more, not much.

 

[kirky]

The only one with reading and comprehendion deficiencies is you.

You somehow think everyone should take your side in this fight.. and if they dont, they are a “lefty”.

Thats what you stated from the very start.when you claimed Kirky was a “lefty”.

Are you that ignorant that you cant comprehend that many of us see both sides as equally disgusting and don't think either side is worthy of support?

Totally agree, both sides are as bad as one another.

For some reason it is ok, to send missiles into another country without being questioned. Bibi has done that.

 

[Bearded Clam]

So Sydney police have received a tip and arrested a car with 7 blokes on their way to commit a violent act. They look very similar to the terrorists from the other night……

Yep.. and this is going to continue..

Thats what happens when you take a side in a war.. especially one involving religion..
Where one side in the fight doesnt care about the conventional methods of warfare. And both sides are that fanatical that slaughtering innocent women and children doesnt phase them.

Until this bullshit in Hamas/palenstine and Israel ends this is what we are stuck with.

Like I said the other day..
Best to stay away from public events for a while especially religious based ones the xmas carols etc.

 

[Bearded Clam]

I find it sad and comical, that people argue about these type of situations from their political beliefs perspective .....and not on the merit of an argument presented

It's impossible to have a discussion, if people are not receptive to an alternate POV .......you have this belief you can sway people away from their belief system, generally an ingrained set of beliefs .......that's just naive

Now you get angry, because people don't think like you .....so you yell, thinking that will sway the argument .....then attack the person

All you've actually done is destroyed any credibility on the subject you may have felt you had

Who said I was angry and shouting?.. why are you making assumptions?

I can tell you right now I am saying every thing I am saying calmly.

I have just spent most of my life working on construction sites..

So I tend to swear a lot Wayne!

For that I am sorry.. but… Please dont mistake that swearing for anger. It just leant behaviour from working in the industry I do..

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Jeezus, you are going back 3 decades. FMD!

What happened then is not relevant now.

You just concentrate on Nicks, a subject you know just a tad more about and I mean just a little bit more, not much.

In the timespan of the Palestinian / Israli conflicts which are centuries old, 25 years is a mere speckle of time .....the fact is the offer of a 2nd state has been made AND rejected

You never answered why it was rejected !

The fact you don't have any sort of counterargument .....but brush it off as irrelevant in the history between the two entities actually reinforces your lack of knowledge on the matter ....then the usual response by some lacking debating skills is to strawman

Maybe arm yourself with some knowledge, B4 you call out others as being Naive

 

[Bearded Clam]

No, the left just kills other people because they can't handle facts or a different opinion..You keep thinking the left are somehow morally superior. Also some people on the left do believe in various religions, the far left on the other hand is a cult. Two different groups. I think you are creating your own arguments on things I haven't said. Enjoy the night mate, get outside and enjoy life!

The “left kills people”??.. WTF?

Who from this left you keep ranting about that kills people in Australia?..

Go on.. Name the terror attacks and killings in Australia undertaken by this “left” you speak of..

We will all await your list..

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Who said I was angry and shouting?.. why are you making assumptions?

I can tell you right now I am saying every thing I am saying calmly.

I have just spent most of my life working on construction sites..

So I tend to swear a lot Wayne!

For that I am sorry.. but… Please dont mistake that swearing for anger. It just leant behaviour from working in the industry I do..

That's fine, some of the wealthiest people I've met, you'd swear they just came off a worksite ....genuine smart people, not the fabricated "rich" you often see (John Singleton a classic example).colourful language doesn't dull someone's intelligence

Respect though is a different matter .....lets be honest, in matters of politics & religion, no-one here is going to change their minds, no matter what .....so what actually is the end goal ?