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Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 6

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pjcrows said:
Yeah, I know, you were talking about recent immigration intake. My point was to ask why, because the Bondi shooters were a migrant from 1998 and his Australian-born son.
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It is skimmed over because (a) the shooter arrived here under John Howard, and (b) Howard structurally doubled our migration intake as well as taking the brakes off our student visa program during the 2000s, and these are devastatingly inconvenient facts for people who are simultaneously up in arms about our immigration policies but also deify Howard as a god king and our greatest PM, and would rather blame Albanese for everything.
 
ADL9798 said:
It is skimmed over because (a) the shooter arrived here under John Howard, and (b) Howard structurally doubled our migration intake as well as taking the brakes off our student visa program during the 2000s, and these are devastatingly inconvenient facts for people who are simultaneously up in arms about our immigration policies but also deify Howard as a god king and our greatest PM, and would rather blame Albanese for everything.
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Howard is not our greatest Prime Minister that sits firmly between Robert Menzies and Bob Hawke post World War 2.. He's probably 3rd.

It's no coincidence the best Labor Prime Minister's are from the ALP's right faction.
 
Latest migration and population growth datasets released by the ABS this week.
  • Overall population growth (including migration + natural increase) back to pre-COVID levels (around 1.5% per year).
  • Migration levels continue to decline after the temporary COVID dip and rebound, and are approaching pre-COVID levels.
  • The biggest part of the decline in migration levels relates to a reduction in student visas, which are now back to pre-COVID levels (156,000 for the year ending June 2025 vs 164,000 for the year ending June 2019).
  • Our permanent visa intake is capped and has remained pretty well unchanged going back to the Howard era.
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Annual net overseas migration falls for the second year in a row

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Overseas Migration, 2024-25 financial year

Statistics on Australia's international migration, by state and territory, country of birth, visa, age and sex.
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National, state and territory population, June 2025

Statistics about the population and components of change (births, deaths, migration) for Australia and its states and territories
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pjcrows said:
The LNP did not want hate speech laws, as they believed it would restrict the ability of people to express a firmly held religious view. I can absolutely guarantee if Albanese and Burke tried to introduce hate speech laws to parliament say, in August, they would've been decried as free speech hating communists trying to control what people say.

Regarding Lindt - absolutely, why would you blame Abbott for a religious extremist committing a terrorist act? Because it's not his fault.

No, Albanese had not had any different approach to Islamic extremism, security etc than the government before him.
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Rubbish. Given the rise of antisemitism since Labor took over, they would have supported it. Either way, it’s a piss weak response if they didn’t introduce a new policy because the opposition would criticise them, no government would do anything if that was the case.
 

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kirky said:
No-one is denying that the terrorists are scum, where has anyone said otherwise.

You are making this as political as you can.

What is needed now is appropriate solutions to ensure gun laws are tightened, hate speech is tightened (and watch the likes of Pauline scream about that one), antisemitism is tightened and not allowed.
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You lot have tried to deflect this to Israel, don’t bullshit.

Needed now? What were the government doing previously?
 
kirky said:
Because individuals can be radicalised by what happens overseas.

How the hell can you righties, think otherwise?

Unfortunately life isn’t that straight forward.

You must think very problem as a simple solution. Love to live in “George World”.
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Yes they can and we can do stuff in our own country to limit that, has Labor?
 
George CantStandYa said:
Rubbish. Given the rise of antisemitism since Labor took over, they would have supported it. Either way, it’s a piss weak response if they didn’t introduce a new policy because the opposition would criticise them, no government would do anything if that was the case.
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You think that the current federal opposition would have supported federal government hate speech laws if introduced in parliament?

You're a sweet kid.
 
pjcrows said:
You think that the current federal opposition would have supported federal government hate speech laws if introduced in parliament?

You're a sweet kid.
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Absoltely the LNP would have supported hate speech especially by the hate preachers, you're being totally disingenuous.

One side has made there attitude crystal clear and it aint Labor.
 
kirky said:
I know you won’t view this but go to around 3:49 mark. Don’t need to view the rest but what have they done? From there you will see.

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Clearly not enough as they are doing more now after the fact right? It’s alright lefties, Labor isn’t perfect, it’s ok to accept that and some responsibility when they get it wrong.

Don’t think they got it wrong? Back to point a, now they are doing more, why?
 

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George CantStandYa said:
What are they doing now after the fact? Why?
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Because you can’t forsee everything and they also did a lot before the event.

Its ok tho, things will get tightened as they should.

That is what happens when events like this occur. Remember Lindt Cafe, Port Arthur etc.

Controls get tightened and it is the price we pay.
 
kirky said:
But they also did a lot before the event.

Its ok tho, things will get tightened as they should.

That is what happens when events like this occur. Remember Lindt Cafe, Port Arthur etc.

Controls get tightened and it is the price we pay.
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Price we pay? I’m not a preacher who has been allowed to spew bile, promote violence and murder
 

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