Test The Ashes Third Test December 17-21 1000hrs @ The Adelaide Oval

[Adelaide Hawk]

I wonder if selectors may opt for Webster as the spin option for Melbourne. If so, that may place Green's spot in jeopardy.

 

[Stax on the mill]

Tall order now with our injuries, but I’d love to see us sweep the Poms 5 nil. Then maybe McCullum gets the heave ho, along with Bazball, and the Poms get back to playing normal test match cricket.

 

[Pistol Night]

Suspect you've hit the nail on the head with these changes.

Agree with you on Green - looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane - selectors love him though, so will be in the team.

Hes averaging similar numbers to a certain A.Flintoff at comparable stages of their careers. I know hes been abysmal this series but we need to look further than the past month when looking to the future

 

[Bedi]

Funky Miller?

Peter Who?

 

[Westend]

Cummins, Inglis, Lyon out.
Smith, Neser and Murphy in.

Would love to flip Green to Webster as well but doubt we make 4 changes.

Usman Lyon Cummins out

Jhye Rocco Smudge in

Inglis Green Jhye Rocco to play in front of Victorians......for the LOLs

 

[Westend]

I wonder if selectors may opt for Webster as the spin option for Melbourne. If so, that may place Green's spot in jeopardy.

in all honesty Webbie spin is worse than heads ..he is a medium quick

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

Gotta look to the future for Boxing Day.

If the quicks are getting rested then pick some uncapped players. Guys like Doggett and Neser shouldn’t be coming in.

Smith in for Inglis and Connolly/Kellaway in for Weatherald or Khawaja (give him a send off in Sydney I guess). Can probably hang on to Green as well because Webster will just be plugging a hole.

For Test cricket my philosophy is different, and simpler. Always pick the best fit and available eleven to win the next match.
Where selectors often fail imo is not dropping veterans who aren't performing because it ends their careers. As far as I'm concerned, if they can earn their way back through form they can come back in.
"If you're good enough you're old enough" the saying goes; but add also you're young enough. The point is you have to be good enough, not perhaps good enough in two years time.

Test caps aren't to be given out on potential or to blood someone. Let them earn their spot by learning their game first. If they earn their place, then the adjustments are not so much technical but the added scrutiny (opposition and public) that comes with the higher level.
You're not building a club to a premiership window. Every Test is a grand final.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

I’m not saying to send a full XI of 18 year olds out there but there should already be a young bloke in there at 6 or 7 if guys like Webster and Inglis are options, and now is the perfect opportunity to do something like that.

But why are you willing to sacrifice the idea of winning more tests against England now for some unmeasurable, indeterminate benefit of picking a young player, when that young player might not even be good enough to even play another Test for Australia beyond this series? There's no guarantee that either Webster or Inglis are such a good cricketers that they will ever play another Test Match beyond this series, yet you're carrying on like they're some of the greatest talents to ever walk the earth that are pre-ordained to win 10 future Ashes series for Australia if they could just somehow get themselves permanently in the team.

 

[CakeEater]

Head
Weatherald
Labs
Smith
Green
Carey
Webster
Neser/ J.Richo
Starc
Rocc
Boland

6 bowling options
Potential of batting from 1-10

Pretty balanced

 

[Knees of Ben Allan]

Wasn’t it Kaluwitharana and Jayasuria? Still remember thinking WTF is going on here when they were going at 7 and 8 an over opposed to the usual 50 over crawling starts

You know, I think you are correct! Couple of years ago now! I’m thinking Tillekeratne was a keeper, who exclusively became a batsman and Kaluwitharana was a keeper who became recognised for his batting?Like a proto-Gilly.

ODI could be pretty slow going before this period. You’d have Tony Greig, when he wasn’t being weird, talking up Australia’s chances, having just put on 200 at the G.

 

[Westend]

Head
Weatherald
Labs
Smith
Green
Carey
Webster
Neser/ J.Richo
Starc
Rocc
Boland

6 bowling options
Potential of batting from 1-10

Pretty balanced

I like that side

 

[Pistol Night]

You know, I think you are correct! Couple of years ago now! I’m thinking Tillekeratne was a keeper, who exclusively became a batsman and Kaluwitharana was a keeper who became recognised for his batting?Like a proto-Gilly.

ODI could be pretty slow going before this period. You’d have Tony Greig, when he wasn’t being weird, talking up Australia’s chances, having just put on 200 at the G.

I think Tille came in at first drop though in that set up

 

[grumbleguts]

It shows that it’s possible to score more than a previous win total.

No it doesn't, it shows that on a genuine road, on which a result is not possible, it is possible to score more.

 

[magpie_marty]

Happy to win the ashes,
Green omg what do they do?
Lyon injured tragic..
Also Australia Smith to return who misses?
But what will England do now ?
Celebrate we got to 5 day's perhaps !!

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Head
Weatherald
Labs
Smith
Green
Carey
Webster
Neser/ J.Richo
Starc
Rocc
Boland

6 bowling options
Potential of batting from 1-10

Pretty balanced

Our fifth bowler has bowled 37 overs in six innings and taken two wickets. Not sure why there is a need for a sixth bowling option

I don’t think their is any argument that either are in the top 5 batsman in the country

They need one AR. If they want Webster in, Green is that badly out of form that it’s an easy choice. If they are determined to play Green the there is no need for Webster

 

[Scorpus]

Happy to win the ashes,
Green omg what do they do?
Lyon injured tragic..
But what will England do now ?
Celebrate we got to 5 day's perhaps !!

England have played their best side, with maybe the exception of Mark Wood

It's not like they've got tons of quality ready to be brought in

 

[Borisdog]

I think Tille came in at first drop though in that set up

Ah yes, good old "Give us a hand lick her acne"

 

[RangaInTeal]

Stick with Green, Nesser in for Cummins, Webster in for Inglis and Rocconchelli for Lyon.

Starc, Nesser, Boland, Rocconchelli, Geeen and Webster as the bowlers.

Khawaja, Weatherald, Labuschange, Smith, Head, Green, Carey, Webster, Starc, Nesser, Roconchelli, Boland… shoot that is 12…

 

[HirdyLannister]

To be fair, as much as I loathe Piers Morgan (and I also find it interesting everyone's doing exactly what he wants by engagement rage baiting), he has a point here. Lee was bowling massive no balls and bowling short stuff following his body as he was backing away. All Lee had to do was bowl some medium paced yorkers, clean bowled Piers, and everyone could have moved on. Dick move by Lee.

Pretty sure Piers requested Lee to bowl full speed at him as he didn't want people thinking Brett was being soft on him.

 

[Pistol Night]

Ah yes, good old "Give us a hand lick her acne"

Affilika Chunda and Amight Needapootoo were a highly underrated middle order combination

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Pretty sure Piers requested Lee to bowl full speed at him as he didn't want people thinking Brett was being soft on him.

Big difference to "full speed but full and targeting the stumps" and "I'm going to bowl halfway down the pitch at his body and bowl no-balls by over a metre".

If the point was to make Piers Morgan look foolish you don't think sending stumps cartwheeling three or four times would have achieved that just as much as a broken rib?

 

[Snarls Barkley]

England have played their best side, with maybe the exception of Mark Wood

It's not like they've got tons of quality ready to be brought in

Jacks won’t play as a spinner. Surely two Tests is enough to learn that lesson

So Bashir even though deemed unelectable, will surely be selected. Pope will definitely be out, Bethell should have come in for him this Test but now that Jacks has shown quality with the bat maybe they just move him up. Hard to fit both into the side with 4/5/6 untouchable

Carse and Tongue were decent in the second innings after awful first innings. I guess they stay in rather than going back to Atkinson. In short they aren’t going to select a team that is any better, there is no variety in their squad to change anything up

 

[Substance]

We can't rest Starc now Cummins is all but confirmed out, so all discussion on that is pointless.

Outs at minimum are Lyon, Cummins & Inglis. Boland & Starc have to play. Neser or Doggett will come in for Cummins. We really need Smith to be over his vertigo issues or whatever he was dealing with. His captaincy will be important.

 

[MarcMaverick]

I reckon I'll discuss the changes tomorrow. Lets have tonight be a celebration.

 

[TazHawk15]

If we don’t say thanks Cam and Josh you gave it a good old collage try but Webster is better than you both, then I will be stunned.
Only injury can save them surely?