Test The Ashes Third Test December 17-21 1000hrs @ The Adelaide Oval

[HoldMyBeer]

Brendan McCullum's grandad fought in Gallipoli alongside the Aussies.

Google it if you think I'm kidding

 

[bigblueboy]

That would not make Brook a "total fraud".

Well that’s your view. I beg to differ.

 

[Young Redleg]

Harry Brook has all the talent in the world. Could be the next Root or Smith.

Bazball is consigning him to be the next Damien Martyn.

Martyn wasn't a flat track bully

 

[bigblueboy]

Honestly do not understand this post

are you talking about how well they time the ball

did marto do bazball

Where did I say anything about timing the ball? Seriously dumb comment.

 

[Headless]

Well that’s your view. I beg to differ.

High standards if top 30 of all time in your country = a total fraud!

What's an acceptable career? Top 10?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Total fraud given his talent. Exactly what Brook is becoming.

He averaged near 46-47 with 13 tons. Thats a pretty good career

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Who captains if Smith doesn't play?

Head or Carey take your pick would prefer Carey personally

 

[bigblueboy]

Martyn wasn't a flat track bully

Test average against England was worst than just about every other country.

 

[Scorpus]

Unfortunately it feels like England will embark on a massive cleanout after this failed series, and that will make them stronger and harder to beat

Is there some way we can not let them win, but allow them to show enough that they keep Baz employed?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I mean to put that in perspective only one batsman (smith) has a better average than Martyn in recent times (like 15 years). Warner averaged 44-45 so even he was not there.

 

[Westend]

Great result, and the perfect day for it to happen as I am currently deep behind enemy lines in old blighty, well, in shoreditch.

Team selection for both teams is interesting.

Putting on my dual coach hat on, here’s what I’d do;

For England, bring in Bashir, Atkinson. Drop Tongue and Pope. Shuffle the order by moving Brook up. Jacks has batted well enough to keep his spot as a specialist bat only. They’ll need a spinner in Melbourne, and the seaming wicket should suit Atkinson.

For Australia, Lyon, Cummins, Inglis out. Smith, Murphy, Neser back in. If Webster comes in, and he probably should it’s for Green and Green only. Murphy has done well with the ball this season and it’s his home deck, Neser deserves his spot and Smith is Smith. Ussies stays where he is in the batting line up.

just because its his home deck doesn't mean he is the best spinner Rocco over Murphy

 

[jb04]

Martyn wasn't a flat track bully

I'd have Martyn over Brook in my XI any day.

 

[bigblueboy]

High standards if top 30 of all time in your country = a total fraud!

What's an acceptable career? Top 10?

With Brook’s talent he should be a top 10 all timer for England. Bazball
is ruining him.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Test average against England was worst than just about every other country.

England had very decent quicks at that time and plenty of that “poor” form against England was in his initial period. His back end was as good as Smith is.

 

[bigblueboy]

He averaged near 46-47 with 13 tons. Thats a pretty good career

Where would you rate him in a list of Australia’s best batsmen?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I'd have Martyn over Brook in my XI any day.

Not even close. Every day and twice on Saturdays

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Where would you rate him in a list of Australia’s best batsmen?

Top 15 easily. Could make an argument for top 10, but he’s ended with an average of 47 with 13 tons it’s an outstanding career. He was a better bat than Warner

 

[KBLT]

Quite possibly the dumbest comparison here today - and that’s saying something.

You're the one who compared career runs, champ. I just did the same.

Ollie Pope has scored near enough the amount of runs Damien Martyn did.

Mike Atherton scored more or less the same amount of runs as Chappell and Bradman.

Doesn't mean they're remotely comparable in terms of impact.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

England had very decent quicks at that time and plenty of that “poor” form against England was in his initial period. His back end was as good as Smith is.

Brooks talent is getting severely overrated. Bloke is feasting on postage stamps that have 60m boundaries and flat wickets. We’ve seen the limits in this talent this series and no it’s not just Bazball. He has zero patience

Let’s compare him to Crawley this series who has actually worked on his deficiencies and showed some restraint in the last two tests

 

[Headless]

Top 15 easily. Could make an argument for top 20, but he’s ended with an average of 47 with 13 tons it’s an outstanding career. He was a better bat than Warner

Averaged basically the same home and away, too.

 

[GreekLunatic]

I hope Howie loses his voice he was annoying this test

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Averaged basically the same home and away, too.

There was a series think it was SL away but you can correct me here where he dead set took the Mickey out of their spinners and he was literally the difference between the sides fairly sure it was SL

 

[Young Redleg]

Test average against England was worst than just about every other country.

He averaged 40 in England and scored two centuries in a single series.

He averaged 76 in the 2001 ashes.

 

[Spirit Level]

Same old aussies, always winning

 

[Headless]

There was a series think it was SL away but you can correct me here where he dead set took the Mickey out of their spinners and he was literally the difference between the sides fairly sure it was SL

Sri Lanka 2003-2004, perhaps? Scored consecutive second innings hundreds.