Religion Bondi shooting - 16 confirmed dead at Jewish event

[Gough]

Performative hysteria from Bridget McKenzie. per the graund blog

Deputy Nationals leader, Bridget McKenzie, said Albanese had “failed Jewish Australians” and claimed the Australian government’s recognition of Palestine played a role in rising antisemitism.

McKenzie said:

No one who’s been paying attention for the last two years is at all surprised that our beautiful country and this beautiful city has been hijacked as part of a global Islamic extremist terrorist campaign, a PR campaign that too many Australians signed up to in the name of compassion.

Australia formally recognised Palestine in September, following the UK and Canada. A two-state solution has long been bipartisan Australian foreign policy.

McKenzie said:

To hate Israel is to hate Jews. It that simple. Chants may seem meaningless on a beautiful summer’s day across the Sydney Harbour Bridge, but Prime Minister, they are anti-Semitic, they fuel the hate, the Islamic extremism that is in our suburbs of our cities. And you cannot fix a problem, Prime Minister, if you are not prepared to name it. We will know this Prime Minister is serious about tackling antisemitism when he names it for what it is….it’s Islamic extremism, and it’s in our suburbs. And for too long we’ve papered over that reality in some hope of, you know, this multicultural, multicultural nirvana. But it has failed. We are subject to terrorist attacks from Islamic State inspired Australians. We can’t ignore that.

It’s been his tacit support, his equivalence of Islamophobia with antisemitism… antisemitism needs own space. It shouldn’t be joined in with other experiences of racism and hate.

She continued:

This recognition of Palestine, all of these your government have brought this upon us. So we need a royal commission to actually uncover that and give our Jewish community and all Australians a chance to get the answers, because there are way many questions for us all and why this occurred.

 

[Orfullrules]

The religion moderator out in full force. Couple of breakfast billies?

 

[sherb]

Do you remember it?

Using that logic, once no-one remembers the Bondi massacre it becomes irrelevant.

 

[faible]

Using that logic, once no-one remembers the Bondi massacre it becomes irrelevant.

Makes even less sense when you try to use it elsewhere;

'The Holocaust was bad'

'Do you remember it?'

 

[Festerz]

Makes even less sense when you try to use it elsewhere;

'The Holocaust was bad'

'Do you remember it?'

Yep - it's the call of the tedious dimwit who, whenever there's a conversation about an important event in recent history, pipes up - 'How should I know, I wasn't even born at the time?'

Parading their ignorance as something to be revered.

 

[leon123]

Do you remember it?

i do, point being?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Makes even less sense when you try to use it elsewhere;

'The Holocaust was bad'

'Do you remember it?'

I don't think we require political action to address it. It was also bad when Attilla the Hun pillaged Europe.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Here's the problem: this is a) a claim to fact, b) that is demonstrably untrue.

So this leaves you in fairly hot waters: do you want to continue disseminating what is clear misinformation - because while it might be a fact that some Palestinians do not want the two state solution you cannot treat the situation as all of them, which is what this post does - or do you back down from an incorrect claim?

I'm sure some of them might, just as some Israeli's might or might not. But they have declined all offers so far. Do you think they are now open to another chance? What would be their demands?

 

[Sinjin Smith]

Typical lefty…… we cant face islamic terror because mentioning the word islam is islamophobic…..terrorists literally laugh at our countries with weak people that defend them.

isis wreaked havoc in western world with attack after attack. Addressing the problem isn't islamophobic. Its just facing facts. Left wing gov’s refuse because thats their base. Its literally putting politics above safety of its own people.

Daesh wrecked much more havoc, death, displacement and all round terror in the Levant and surrounding areas......against Muslims.

 

[Markfs]

I'm sure some of them might, just as some Israeli's might or might not. But they have declined all offers so far. Do you think they are now open to another chance? What would be their demands?

maybe some food and clean water

 

[schneebly111]

McKenzie said:

To hate Israel is to hate Jews

Well thanks for clarifying your definition of antisemitism Bridget.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Beautiful mate.

Anthrax doesn’t kill people. People kill people.

Depleted uranium doesn’t kill people. People kill people.

Mustard gas doesn’t kill people. People kill people.

Lol, great examples 99.

You think the first two examples are analagous with guns?

Your poor logical reasoning to connect those two does explain a lot about your political opinions.

 

[ferball]

Not always.

The ASIO director general described the rise of a new section of society as far left radical environmentalists that support Adolf Hitler.

Modern society is definitely more complicated.

This the same clown that failed to stop the attack last week? He's obviously full of shit.

Ecofascists are by defintion not far left.

The far left has always promoted solidarity with coloured people, working people and colonised people across the world. Those campaigners don't. They promote genocide against non white people so they can thieve their resources as the world runs out of stuff.

Its one element of so called "horseshoe theory" that is bullshit because the far right and far left don't converge at that point, they diverge.

 

[faible]

I don't think we require political action to address it. It was also bad when Attilla the Hun pillaged Europe.

I suspect members of the stolen generation who are still alive today and suffer from long-term issues due to that government policy might disagree with you.

 

[ferball]

Do you remember it?

I've known and been close to people who remember it, experienced it and some of them were so ****ed up they ended their own lives because of it. One of them wrote a song about it that nearly everyone in the country knows.

Rates of removal from families right now are higher.

 

[ferball]

There's many alive today who were part of it, you're talking as late as the mid 70s in some cases.

This isn't ancient history you're talking about.

There's one poster on here that might have been part of it, I can't remember the details of his life story properly to know if he was himself, or if he narrowly avoided it.

If that's the poster I'm thinking of then yes they were a member of it and have described the horrific things they had to endure more than once.

 

[Sinjin Smith]

Until we take the long overdue step of banning dual citizenship, we are unable to stop or punish people serving in foreign militaries unless they are proven to have committed a war crime as an individual or are helping a hostile governments against Australia.

Please don't.

 

[Markfs]

I cant believe the PM's restraint after being personally attacked for having blood on his hands. He's a better man than me. I'd be motivated to stop all personal communication with those making the baseless allegations.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

This the same clown that failed to stop the attack last week? He's obviously full of shit.

Ecofascists are by defintion not far left.

The far left has always promoted solidarity with coloured people, working people and colonised people across the world. Those campaigners don't. They promote genocide against non white people so they can thieve their resources as the world runs out of stuff.

Its one element of so called "horseshoe theory" that is bullshit because the far right and far left don't converge at that point, they diverge.

The fact that you believe this is cringe, and explains a lot.

The far left are the most bigoted people on the planet.

 

[faible]

If that's the poster I'm thinking of then yes they were a member of it and have described the horrific things they had to endure more than once.

I suspect we're thinking of the same poster.

He's been quite open about his story, would perhaps do some posters here some good to read it if they ever come across him talking about it.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

The far left are the most bigoted people on the planet.

If that was true, you would have been banned long ago.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

If that was true, you would have been banned long ago.

The fact you want to ban me proves my point.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

The fact you want to ban me proves my point.

If I wanted to ban you, you would be banned.

 

[RCAB]

Palestinians don’t want a two state solution. They’ve been offered it many times. They want Israel and all Jews wiped out. That’s all they want.

So you’re agreeing that being anti Israel is antisemitism.

After some sensible posting for a while... your true colours have come out, three days before Christmas. Baby Jesus will be mad.

Your claim that “Palestinians want Israel and all Jews wiped out” is ****ing gross. Most of the casualties in Gaza are women and children, because most of Gaza is... women and children. Independent estimates indicating around 20,000 children killed.

GAZA: 20,000 CHILDREN KILLED IN 23 MONTHS OF WAR - MORE THAN ONE CHILD KILLED EVERY HOUR

At least one Palestinian child has been killed every hour on average by Israeli forces in Gaza over nearly 23 months of war, with the number of children killed now surpassing 20,000, Save the Children said.

www.savethechildren.net

At least one Palestinian child has been killed every hour on average by Israeli forces in Gaza over nearly 23 months of war, with the number of children killed now surpassing 20,000, Save the Children said.



Statements that imply an entire civilian population deserves harm... ESPECIALLY when that population includes disproportionately affected groups like children... Is the kind of thing that will come under scrutiny when hate speech laws are implemented in the future.

Dogs_R_Us I'd be careful with continuing this rhetoric and dehumanisation of a group of people, particularly when that group of people is mainly women and children. Your comments could land you in a lot of hot water.

 

[Rob R]

These types of ads are cringey, imo. Being lectured by “celebrities”, who get to believe they are smarter/better people than the rest of us, isn’t quite as appealing as supposed.

Celebrity lecturing was one of the many poor decisions that led to the defeat of the voice referendum, it doesn't work here (which is a little surprising given how stupidly people follow influencers)