Religion Bondi shooting - 16 confirmed dead at Jewish event

[ferball]

For the older posters who remember, did john howard cop the same blood on your hands garbage as Albanese after the Port Arthur massacre?

Not that I remember.

If anything people who voted for both major parties supported him. (The Nats not so much but Tim Fisher backed him up.)

 

[Sphynx]

 

[FlowersByIrene]

For the older posters who remember, did john howard cop the same blood on your hands garbage as Albanese after the Port Arthur massacre?

What did Jon Howard do to incite Port Arthur?

 

[Rob R]

Isis, far right cookers, and the Chinese/Russian government bots influencing social media must be laughing at the way Australia is tearing itself apart.

 

[Combathorse]

What did Jon Howard do to incite Port Arthur?

What did albo do to incite Bondi? Was he out waving the shahada talking about bringing back the caliphate?

 

[Rob R]

For the older posters who remember, did john howard cop the same blood on your hands garbage as Albanese after the Port Arthur massacre?

nope. it was nice back then when politics allowed for time to think and act rather than being focussed on releasing a poorly thought out often inaccurate comment on the plague is social media today.

 

[King Patty]

For the older posters who remember, did john howard cop the same blood on your hands garbage as Albanese after the Port Arthur massacre?

John Howard was praised for the gun reforms, only great country (USA) people who were upset by it and that was probably media excerpts from their gun lobby.

Before then there were quite lax rules. About where guns were kept etc.
The main requirement was having a gun licence.
From my experience it was only hunters or farmers who had guns anyway and they had been around them all their life.
(criminals too - but they were always likely outside the system)
I remember my dad used to keep his guns under the bed, but after the Howard reforms we had a locked gun safe in the shed.
Then when my dad passed we handed the guns in, as I couldn't be bothered getting a licence and didn't have a rural property or need for them. Though they did hold some sentimental value as he also had his fathers guns.

 

[schneebly111]

For the older posters who remember, did john howard cop the same blood on your hands garbage as Albanese after the Port Arthur massacre?

None. Beazley stood with him as Crean did with him after Bali, how Shorten stood by Abbott and Morrison after Lindt and Christchurch.

This is without a doubt the first time I’ve seen a national tragedy where one side has gone on the attack.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

What did albo do to incite Bondi? Was he out waving the shahada talking about bringing back the caliphate?

Albanese has been criticised for over a year about his failure to respond to anti-semitism. His handwaving every time an incident occurred, talking about imaginary Nazi's instead of talking about the real issue - fundamentalist Islam. There was the "Gaz the Jews" incident, the ISIS (or whatever other black and white Islamist flag it was) carried across the Sydney Harbour Bridge, photos of Islamist dictators carried at protests, not to mention the celebratory parades in the days after October 7. All of this rising violence and extremism has been implicitly supported by Albanese due to his failure to stand up and speak against it for years now.

 

[1990crow]

None. Beazley stood with him as Crean did with him after Bali, how Shorten stood by Abbott and Morrison after Lindt and Christchurch.

This is without a doubt the first time I’ve seen a national tragedy where one side has gone on the attack.

The sooner conservatism dies the better the world will be.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

None. Beazley stood with him as Crean did with him after Bali, how Shorten stood by Abbott and Morrison after Lindt and Christchurch.

This is without a doubt the first time I’ve seen a national tragedy where one side has gone on the attack.

The first time we've had a leader so morally bankrupt as Albanese as to have caused it.

 

[bourbons]

Out of context. What I want is the best people voting, making the best decisions for everyone

"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried".

The people you consider the "best" is where the many, many problems with your worldview start though. Its just people who think like you do and agree with you politically, thats it. Thats the totality of your philosophy when you boil it down: your guy/values/beliefs = bad, my guy/beliefs/values = good and I'd like them imposed by force on the general populace please.

You're a crank, mate. Overly shrill, emotional, hysterical. Frothing, seething hatred for an entire spectrum of politics for which you blame all problems, both real and perceived.

You're incapable of recognising this about yourself of course (like most cranks), but rest assured, you're a massive one.

 

[dean33]

None. Beazley stood with him as Crean did with him after Bali, how Shorten stood by Abbott and Morrison after Lindt and Christchurch.

This is without a doubt the first time I’ve seen a national tragedy where one side has gone on the attack.

Shows how desperate the libs and right currently are.

 

[dean33]

The first time we've had a leader so morally bankrupt as Albanese as to have caused it.

FMD, this after having Abbott and scomo, probably up there as worst PM's ever.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried".

The people you consider the "best" is where the many, many problems with your worldview start though. Its just people who think like you do and agree with you politically, thats it. Thats the totality of your philosophy when you boil it down: your guy/values/beliefs = bad, my guy/beliefs/values = good and I'd like them imposed by force on the general populace please.

You're a crank, mate. Overly shrill, emotional and hysterical. Frothing, seething hatred for an entire spectrum of politics for which you blame all problems, both real and perceived.

You're incapable of recognising this about yourself (like most cranks), but rest assured, you're a massive one.

You're looking at it backwards.

It's not people who have my beliefs who are good. It is that good people share my beliefs.

As i've said, there is a fundamental moral flaw in the modern left, and no good can come of it.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

FMD, this after having Abbott and scomo, probably up there as worst PM's ever.

Abbot an underrated PM. Bring him back.

 

[bourbons]

It's not people who have my beliefs who are good. It is that good people share my beliefs.

Thank you for instantly proving my point

You're a crank, never forget it.

 

[bourbons]

Abbot an underrated PM. Bring him back.

And again lol

My guy good
Your guy bad

Ahhh you're good value mate, gotta give you that

 

[H Dolphin]

You are correct. I was imprecise in my language and I apologise. It's the Muslim Brotherhood and its extremist offshoots such as Hamas that want Israel and Jews wiped out. I'm sure the Palestinians they are hiding amongst do not want them there, but what can they do? How can they get rid of them? How can Islamic extremism across the world best be dealt with?

A most humble and accomodating response, so gentlemanly but what else would you expect from a supporter/member of our great club ? No need to have apologised, it's to your great credit that you do. RCAB is the one who is wrong, what has the number of alleged casualties to do with the willingness or otherwise for subjugation, or otherwise, of Gazans to rule by Hamas ? Gazans have only voted once, since 2005, to be fair, permitted to vote is more accurate. They voted FOR Hamas. Things change over 20 years but there is, undestandably, no indication of dissent from the 2005 position. That said, you should have added, after "..hamas" the words and punctuation ", Herzbollah, statistically a percentage of between 10% and 20 % of adherents to Islam, including the Akram duo and Nazeed's inspiration Imam Wasam Haddad, preachers at the Al Madina Dawah Centre and so many more throughout Australia and the World."

 

[FlowersByIrene]

And again lol

My guy good
Your guy bad

Ahhh you're good value mate, gotta give you that

Hey I agree Scomo was shit, but Abbot, how can you not love that man. Ate an onion, stopped the boats. A modern Yoat.

 

[Bloods86]

Out of context. What I want is the best people voting, making the best decisions for everyone, taking away from the tyranny of the majority, from mob rule by the least educated and least intelligent amongst us, those who think Albanese is doing a good job, or that think fundamentalist Islam is just another social status to be "accepted" like being homosexual or singing along to Disney songs in the cinema, people who think that there should be political advantages based on the colour of your skin, or who think that Australian emissions have an impact on the global environment. I want what is best for people with disability, illness and those who are studying, volunteering or doing unpaid work. And it's become evident that the current system is not set up to achieve that.

Yes, so bigotry in some cases and smug, unjustified elitism in others.

Not sure who you're talking about re: Albanese doing a good job (in general, though I think he's currently got more patience than I would have with the opportunistic nonsense from the opposition) and fundamentalist Islam being acceptable.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

You are correct. I was imprecise in my language and I apologise. It's the Muslim Brotherhood and its extremist offshoots such as Hamas that want Israel and Jews wiped out. I'm sure the Palestinians they are hiding amongst do not want them there, but what can they do? How can they get rid of them? How can Islamic extremism across the world best be dealt with?

You deal with ALL ethno-religious supremacy and seperatist groups who think their group or race should rule over all others in the rejection of a common humanity. In one swoop, you deal with them all.

You go to full scale war against the Far Right in totality, in all its evil guises, and you don't stop until there is erasure.

Those who deny human rights to others should THEMSELVES have no human rights to fall back on. No protections. No second chances. No legal system to protect them.

We see how ALL supremacist movements are an existential threat to our common humanity. It is past time that threat was dealt with on an international level.

 

[Gethelred]

I'm sure some of them might, just as some Israeli's might or might not. But they have declined all offers so far. Do you think they are now open to another chance? What would be their demands?

This is not an answer to the post you're responding to.

Are you going to amend your post to reflect that the claim made in it is false - correcting it to reflect fact - or are you going to continue trying to argue that it reflects the facts in its current form?

 

[ferball]

Abbot an underrated PM. Bring him back.

During his time as PM the number of women killed by intimate partner violence from male partners each year increased by over 60%. This was after he and his mates ran an election campaign full of people calling for the death of our first PM who was a woman.

That's leadership right there.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Abbot an underrated PM. Bring him back.

He lost his seat lmao