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Restricted Free Agent Zak Butters

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Dons are the sleepers in this one. Merrett will leave and we will have more picks and so much money to offer.

I reckon we go for Bailey too.
 
THE_GUN said:
Yes it does

They force the other team to pay way overs to even get a chance and hold the cards on how the trade plays out
even with a player like Merrett & Petracca we seen 3 x 1st rounder plus some

Butters is going to be very very expensive for which ever team he decides to go to
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Exactly, Port could easily match whatever the Dogs and Cats put up too, because their list has far fewer good players
 
RanaNaved said:
Exactly, Port could easily match whatever the Dogs and Cats put up too, because their list has far fewer good players
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Yes, but that doesn't mean they are necessarily going to get a better offer out of the bulldogs or the cats, or anyone, rather than just taking the compo.

That's if they have a really poor season.
 

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tombomb said:
Yes, but that doesn't mean they are necessarily going to get a better offer out of the bulldogs or the cats, or anyone, rather than just taking the compo.

That's if they have a really poor season.
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1 compo pick compared to 3 years of 1st round picks

bloody oath they are getting a better outcome
 
tombomb said:
1 top five pick compared to 3 picks in the teens that could end up in the 20s (or 30s with those tassie drafts).
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There is no guarantee it will be a top 5 pick or what the 3 1st rounders will be

But with Port having Dougie as an academy kid that will go top 2 easily that top 5 pick gets swallowed up and is useless
they are better off getting 3 x 1st rounders and not losing it all in 1 academy kid
 
THE_GUN said:
There is no guarantee it will be a top 5 pick or what the 3 1st rounders will be

But with Port having Dougie as an academy kid that will go top 2 easily that top 5 pick gets swallowed up and is useless
they are better off getting 3 x 1st rounders and not losing it all in 1 academy kid
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I said at the beginning, if Port have a bad year and they can get a top 5 compo pick. That was the premise.

As for Cochrane, if they end up with two top 5 picks, their own + a compo pick, they could potentially get up to 1 and take a player before Cochrane and still match the bid at 3.

Or they could trade the selection into next year's draft. It's not useless.
 
tombomb said:
I said at the beginning, if Port have a bad year and they can get a top 5 compo pick. That was the premise.

As for Cochrane, if they end up with two top 5 picks, their own + a compo pick, they could potentially get up to 1 and take a player before Cochrane and still match the bid at 3.

Or they could trade the selection into next year's draft. It's not useless.
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Your dreaming

West Coast , Richmond , Essendon are all bottom 4 with another 1-2 sides that could keep them company
Port will finish 10-12 range and have pick around 7 and their compo will be straight after which wont get them pick #1 and if they do how do they then have the points/picks for dougie

Ports best out come is to get 3 x 1st rounders in multiple years and take dougie with the picks this year
really make no sense for them not to match and i cannot see how you dont see this
 
THE_GUN said:
Your dreaming

West Coast , Richmond , Essendon are all bottom 4 with another 1-2 sides that could keep them company
Port will finish 10-12 range and have pick around 7 and their compo will be straight after which wont get them pick #1 and if they do how do they then have the points/picks for dougie

Ports best out come is to get 3 x 1st rounders in multiple years and take dougie with the picks this year
really make no sense for them not to match and i cannot see how you dont see this
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I don't even know what we are talking about anymore.

It was a pretty simple point, would port consider taking a top 5 compo pick over haggling over a trade.

Maybe it was more complicated for some than I realised.
 
tombomb said:
It really doesn't.
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Ok, here we go.
tombomb said:
Butters is basically uncontracted,
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Not basically, he will be uncontracted.
tombomb said:
but Port have the option of accepting a compo pick if they prefer that to trading him.
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Or, Port can match the contract and Butters either has to show up to training on Monday, or go in the National draft.

Those are the actual rules.
tombomb said:
Other than that, it is really no different. Port don't have all this leverage just because he is an RFA.
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Yea, they do.
tombomb said:
Merrett and Petracca were contracted. It's a different situation.
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tombomb said:
I am not sure it is out of the question that if Port have a poor year, they consider just taking the compo pick.
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tombomb said:
This is my point.

If they do finish bottom 4, which isn't impossible, would they prefer the compo pick or haggling with a a team like Geelong or Hawthorn over a Curnow/Cameron type deal.
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This is not an angle I had considered but this makes a lot of sense for Port
 
Barrybran said:
This is not an angle I had considered but this makes a lot of sense for Port
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I don't think it will happen, because I don't think Port will finish bottom four.

But if they did, and it was a choice between a top 5 compensation pick or trying to get a good deal out of Geelong or the Bulldogs, they would clearly consider just taking the compensation pick.
 

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tombomb said:
I don't think it will happen, because I don't think Port will finish bottom four.

But if they did, and it was a choice between a top 5 compensation pick or trying to get a good deal out of Geelong or the Bulldogs, they would clearly consider just taking the compensation pick.
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As THE_GUN, there are other considerations for Port. Dougie Cochrane, who looks a top 2 pick and the new bid matching rules for 2026 and beyond.

They also have Zemes Pilot and Salopek as probable first rounders in 2027, and Roden as a possible first round.
 
tombomb said:
An extra top 5 pick next year would be very handy then.
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It actually wont as it gets eaten up in a bid
they would be in the same position as carlton were and would be looking to trade it into next year and points in the current year.

They are better placed just matching and taking 1st rounders in the next 3 years at a min
 
I don’t think those suggesting we will be bottom 4 next year realise how heavily we were impacted by injuries this year and particularly the end of the year where we had games missing 10 best 22 at times. We won’t be top 4 but certainly won’t be filling the bottom couple positions.
 
tombomb said:
This is my point.

If they do finish bottom 4, which isn't impossible, would they prefer the compo pick or haggling with a a team like Geelong or Hawthorn over a Curnow/Cameron type deal.
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They wont finish bottom 4.
 
THE_GUN said:
It actually wont as it gets eaten up in a bid
they would be in the same position as carlton were and would be looking to trade it into next year and points in the current year.

They are better placed just matching and taking 1st rounders in the next 3 years at a min
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They could do something wild like trade the compensation pick rather than having it get used on a bid.
 
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THE_GUN said:
Why ?

when they can just demand what they want and will get it from the club they are dealing with
makes absolutely no sense what you are saying
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What is so confusing about saying a top 5 pick in 2026 might be better than the picks they could get off someone like Geelong or Hawthorn?
 
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