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How does it work with prisons in Victoria? Can family members regularly visit a close one?
Haven't regularly visited one in 20 years, but back then, prisoners could have about 8 people on their visitors list. They had to be named and ID had to be submitted 2 weeks prior to a visit. If they wanted to add anyone, someone would have to drop off. Same with phone calls.
At some prisons like Port Phillip and the MAP (Melbourne Assessment Prison/Old remand centre) you could visit without being on the list, or if the prisoner had just gone in and the list wasn't processed yet, but it was a booth behind glass, like you see in the movies. So at the moment his family would be seeing him from behinf glass with a phone linked.

Once assessed and processed, visitors could come on Saturday and Sunday for I think up to 4 hours.

There are canteens in the visiting areas, so most have lunch with family.

If there was an emergency, like a death in a family, you can contact the prison to get a midweek visit.

Certain people are allowed to visit outside of this. For example, when Jeff Kennett was premier he would go up mid-week and visit his criminal mates, and he would organise them to get privileges other prisoners did not have.

If it is still like it was back then, Tom will spend a couple of weeks at The MAP while they work out his classification. They will assess the level of danger to him and to others, and then transfer him. Might go to Port Phillip, but as a high-profile rapist, he will most likely end up with the dregs in Ararat, unless he asks to be put in mainstream, but that seems unlikely for this entitled little prick.
 
An avatar I've had for 2 years doesn't disqualify me from talking about whatever I want, and it sure doesn't disqualify me from talking about rape. I couldn't give a F what user's avatars are, it's a weird thing to even mention.

If you want to discuss Bailey Smith do it in another thread.
It’s a truly all time reach from someone found to be desperately lacking in comprehension skills imo.
Haven't regularly visited one in 20 years, but back then, prisoners could have about 8 people on their visitors list. They had to be named and ID had to be submitted 2 weeks prior to a visit. If they wanted to add anyone, someone would have to drop off. Same with phone calls.
At some prisons like Port Phillip and the MAP (Melbourne Assessment Prison/Old remand centre) you could visit without being on the list, or if the prisoner had just gone in and the list wasn't processed yet, but it was a booth behind glass, like you see in the movies. So at the moment his family would be seeing him from behinf glass with a phone linked.

Once assessed and processed, visitors could come on Saturday and Sunday for I think up to 4 hours.

There are canteens in the visiting areas, so most have lunch with family.

If there was an emergency, like a death in a family, you can contact the prison to get a midweek visit.

Certain people are allowed to visit outside of this. For example, when Jeff Kennett was premier he would go up mid-week and visit his criminal mates, and he would organise them to get privileges other prisoners did not have.

If it is still like it was back then, Tom will spend a couple of weeks at The MAP while they work out his classification. They will assess the level of danger to him and to others, and then transfer him. Might go to Port Phillip, but as a high-profile rapist, he will most likely end up with the dregs in Ararat, unless he asks to be put in mainstream, but that seems unlikely for this entitled little prick.
I worked with DJCS for a couple of years, primarily at Barwon it wasn’t quite as strict as that (you definitely didn’t need that much notice for visitors on an approved list.

I’d imagine the rules around prisoners in protection units it’s a bit different but broadly all prisoners can’t be restricted in visitation and there are 2-3 days per week they do it.

Theoretically his family or whoever could see him 2-3 times a week
 
It’s a truly all time reach from someone found to be desperately lacking in comprehension skills imo.

I worked with DJCS for a couple of years, primarily at Barwon it wasn’t quite as strict as that (you definitely didn’t need that much notice for visitors on an approved list.

I’d imagine the rules around prisoners in protection units it’s a bit different but broadly all prisoners can’t be restricted in visitation and there are 2-3 days per week they do it.

Theoretically his family or whoever could see him 2-3 times a week
Back around 2000 these were the rules (timeframes are from memory, but I think not far off)- before much info was online and everything was processed manually.

Visits were strictly Saturday and Sunday during visiting hours, unless it was a booth with glass, or you were the Premier of Victoria.
Brian Quinn had some other interesting visitors back then. I remember seeing Lindsay Fox sitting with him on a Saturday - apparently billionaires don't get the same treatment as the Premier.
 

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Back around 2000 these were the rules (timeframes are from memory, but I think not far off)- before much info was online and everything was processed manually.

Visits were strictly Saturday and Sunday during visiting hours, unless it was a booth with glass, or you were the Premier of Victoria.
Brian Quinn had some other interesting visitors back then. I remember seeing Lindsay Fox sitting with him on a Saturday - apparently billionaires don't get the same treatment as the Premier.
I would have been 2018/19. The warden and a few other important corrections figures were relaxing a lot of older rules then to make prison more rehabilitative than punitive. Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday were visitation days but private visits were doable 7 days a week with organisation (shrinks and lawyers mostly). Barwon does have a super max and I’m sure the rules there are different (that’s a prison inside the prison) but they also had in facility accommodation that allowed families to stay with inmates who had finished their sentences but deemed not able to be released.

I was “lucky” enough to tour cessnock prison in NSW at a point too, that has the terrorist wing of 10 cells, suffice to say it makes Barton’s supermax look like a daycare.

In any event I suspect tom will get 3 family visits a week plus a shrink one.
 
I would have been 2018/19. The warden and a few other important corrections figures were relaxing a lot of older rules then to make prison more rehabilitative than punitive. Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday were visitation days but private visits were doable 7 days a week with organisation (shrinks and lawyers mostly). Barwon does have a super max and I’m sure the rules there are different (that’s a prison inside the prison) but they also had in facility accommodation that allowed families to stay with inmates who had finished their sentences but deemed not able to be released.

I was “lucky” enough to tour cessnock prison in NSW at a point too, that has the terrorist wing of 10 cells, suffice to say it makes Barton’s supermax look like a daycare.

In any event I suspect tom will get 3 family visits a week plus a shrink one.
What does 'not able to be released' mean in the context of someone who has finished their sentence? They're not rehabiliated enough to be released or a logistics issue?
 
What does 'not able to be released' mean in the context of someone who has finished their sentence? They're not rehabiliated enough to be released or a logistics issue?
It wasn’t specifically my area but danger to themselves or not mentally fit was generally my understanding.

How they could then have unsupervised visits in what was basically a one bedroom air BnB was a bit beyond me.
 
Its the first time I have listened to the whole verdict.

I general didn't know what 'digital rape' until today.




I'd say he got off a few years due to the age at the time he committed the offence, 21 years of age. Im surprised he went to uni- Monash University. He doesn't seem like the brightest spark to me despite being uni educated. Where I studied at this year they had a whole module for 1st years to do in regards to sexual misconduct on campus- im gathering its a new thing, especially this year at my university. Feels like the private school system, parents at home don't educate their young folk enough.

Certain people are allowed to visit outside of this. For example, when Jeff Kennett was premier he would go up mid-week and visit his criminal mates, and he would organise them to get privileges other prisoners did not have.
Genuinely didnt know Kennett had mates in prison. First I have heard of that.
 
An avatar I've had for 2 years doesn't disqualify me from talking about whatever I want, and it sure doesn't disqualify me from talking about rape. I couldn't give a F what user's avatars are, it's a weird thing to even mention.

If you want to discuss Bailey Smith do it in another thread.
It's just a tad hypocritical but you're happy to live with it so away you go.
 
It's just a tad hypocritical but you're happy to live with it so away you go.
We’ve got people derailing threads about convicted rapists and victim blaming but someone having a footballer as their Av on a football forum is hypocritical.

Jfc.
 

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And yet here you are, calling out a ****ing av picture.

Again, one of those things is probably not worth your time
I'm probably wasting my time and I'll endeavour to make this my last post on the matter.

I wonder if they had Donald Trump as their avatar people would be as forgiving. I'll concede that BS doesn't have the same rap sheet when it comes to women compared to Trump.

Probably just weakening my point with that example but I just hate Bailey Smith. There i said it!
 
Genuinely didnt know Kennett had mates in prison. First I have heard of that.
Brian Quinn - ex head of Myer, used company funds to renovate his house.
Kennett gave a character reference at this trial.

Jeff would have a day off every few weeks and go up mid-week with the taxpayer-funded driver. Never told the voters he was taking time off to visit a criminal, just booked it out with fake meetings.
 
An avatar I've had for 2 years doesn't disqualify me from talking about whatever I want, and it sure doesn't disqualify me from talking about rape. I couldn't give a F what user's avatars are, it's a weird thing to even mention.

If you want to discuss Bailey Smith do it in another thread.
It doesn't disqualify you, but it is a bit odd.

Given how strong the link between casual sexism and lack of respect towards women, and violence towards women is -its a very confusing message you're putting out there.

Very strange.
 
We’ve got people derailing threads about convicted rapists and victim blaming but someone having a footballer as their Av on a football forum is hypocritical.

Jfc.
Just "a footballer" who publicly tried to humiliate the leading female AFL journalist for laughs by posting a semen emoji when mocking her appearance in a social media post?

Just "a footballer" who abused a female photographer in a threatening manner in public for doing her job?


I'm not here to judge Smith either way, but it's highly unusual to be crusading so strongly on this topic (which is absolutely valid) yet have his picture as your avatar.

Strange.
 

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An avatar I've had for 2 years doesn't disqualify me from talking about whatever I want, and it sure doesn't disqualify me from talking about rape. I couldn't give a F what user's avatars are, it's a weird thing to even mention.

If you want to discuss Bailey Smith do it in another thread.

My avatar > your avatar, grow up m8
 
Harsh sentence but it’s the new world we live in. A silly boy.

You’re probably better off knocking off two elderly people in the high country these days and burning them. Or doing an OJ.

The legal system and judges are ****ed. You can only hope karma gets them and their families so they understand real loss.
 
Harsh sentence but it’s the new world we live in. A silly boy.

You’re probably better off knocking off two elderly people in the high country these days and burning them. Or doing an OJ.

The legal system and judges are ****ed. You can only hope karma gets them and their families so they understand real loss.
No not a silly boy a convicted rapist.
 
Harsh sentence but it’s the new world we live in. A silly boy.

You’re probably better off knocking off two elderly people in the high country these days and burning them. Or doing an OJ.

The legal system and judges are ****ed. You can only hope karma gets them and their families so they understand real loss.
It’s hardly a harsh sentence. It’s a justified sentence for a convicted rapist. If you think other standards are too low for other crimes that’s a different matter entirely.
 

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