Day 2 in Perth wasn't difficult to bat, England got a lead of 100 with 1 wicket down and just suddenly collapse and we end up chasing 200 runs to win on the same day.
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Cricket Thread: Ashes done, 4-1
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Or the stupidity of people who think this is close to a 50/50 game...
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I'm not certain that the pitch gets massively better for batting over the next two days but I am certain that most of the English bats have ghosts haunting them
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What might change is that the seam movement becomes a bit more dependent on the new ball
Should settle down once the ball is 30+ overs old
The grass cover will mean that the new ball will do a bit all test
The ball was still jagging around late in our innings today but I don't think that will be the case tomorrow
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So England will be finished their innings by then
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England innings overs v Australia
32.5 v 45.2
34.4 v 28.2* shortened with run chase
76.2 v 91.2
75.2 v 84.4
87.2 v 91.2
102.5 v 84.4
29.5 v 45.2
3/7 innings they have been comfortably bowled out in less than 2 sessions.
On the difficult wickets, Australian batsmen have occupied the crease around 50% longer... as they actually attempt to adjust to the conditions.
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Most Australian tests are lasting around 3.5 days... but this test isn’t going to increase the average.
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‘I’m not liking what I’m seeing’: MCG pitch under fire as 20 wickets fall on chaotic opening day
Former Test greats said the grassy surface had tipped the balance too far in favour of the bowlers in the Boxing Day Test, after both Australia and England were all out on day one.
It amazes me how many past players succumb to the coin in exchange for turning into a shock jock. Same with afl
Batting skills of players are horrendous and should be absolutely hauled over the coals. What we saw today was the worst boxing day batting display for 100 years. The pitch sure was a green top but christ, the very basics are designed to cope with pitches of all types.
1 Head, literally had no reason to even play at that ball. He was looking to force the score forward. Got bowled because he was trying to be cute. It was the 6th over of the day. An opening batters job is blunt the ball so when players come in next the bowlers have to work. Its not t20 cut that shit out.
2. Weatherald. Chased one down legside. Didnt need to play it. Unnecessary risk. Let the ball come to you, dont force the score. So in my view both these dismissals are batsman error ahead of pitch. Completely stupid.
3. Marnus to me is the first legit wicket to great bowling to the wicket. His wicket should never have occurred because its only over 11.5 and both openers or at the very least one of them should be in blunting that ball.
At this stage I would say based on what I have seen there is no excuse for this score. 3-34
4. Steve Smith. Shouldnt have been exposed. Good bowling to the pitch though. So that delivery was excellent. So this here is the result of Head and Weatherald making substandard decisions as openers.
the rest just fall like dominoes because England have a virtual new ball to play with on a tricky wicket. Head and Weatherald in my view should be getting a rocket in the changerooms. If we only score 1 for 50 of 30 overs in the first session so ****ing be it. Thats what test match batting is. Bat V Ball. If we score 3 for 180 for the course of the day because batting was incredibly difficult, so what. You have increased your reputation. You blunted the attack, made england work for it and played incredibly smart. Ridiculous.
Now lets do England.
1. Duckett - Good bowling but poor batting. Again dont need to force the issue. Australia just got bowled out for a mediocre score on the 1st day. There is all the time in the world to bat for 1s and 2s. Should not be out IMO. Blunt the attack, dont force the score.
2. Bethell - Exposed by Duckett and paid the price against some excellent bowling. Not a lot most batters could do there.
3. Crawley - That is Bowling to the pitch and not a lot Crawley could do with that. Thats a world class bowler right there.
And from there the lower order stood no chance.
So pitch not that great but the opening batting was just a disaster on both sides. Blaming the pitch like its always the pitches fault is lazy and allows the batsman to create excuses. This here is t20 killing cricket. I knew as a 10yo the opening batters job is to grind and fight to protect the 3rd. Since when was that thrown out for lets score runs and hope for the best down the order.
1 Head, literally had no reason to even play at that ball. He was looking to force the score forward. Got bowled because he was trying to be cute. It was the 6th over of the day. An opening batters job is blunt the ball so when players come in next the bowlers have to work. Its not t20 cut that shit out.
2. Weatherald. Chased one down legside. Didnt need to play it. Unnecessary risk. Let the ball come to you, dont force the score. So in my view both these dismissals are batsman error ahead of pitch. Completely stupid.
3. Marnus to me is the first legit wicket to great bowling to the wicket. His wicket should never have occurred because its only over 11.5 and both openers or at the very least one of them should be in blunting that ball.
At this stage I would say based on what I have seen there is no excuse for this score. 3-34
4. Steve Smith. Shouldnt have been exposed. Good bowling to the pitch though. So that delivery was excellent. So this here is the result of Head and Weatherald making substandard decisions as openers.
the rest just fall like dominoes because England have a virtual new ball to play with on a tricky wicket. Head and Weatherald in my view should be getting a rocket in the changerooms. If we only score 1 for 50 of 30 overs in the first session so ****ing be it. Thats what test match batting is. Bat V Ball. If we score 3 for 180 for the course of the day because batting was incredibly difficult, so what. You have increased your reputation. You blunted the attack, made england work for it and played incredibly smart. Ridiculous.
Now lets do England.
1. Duckett - Good bowling but poor batting. Again dont need to force the issue. Australia just got bowled out for a mediocre score on the 1st day. There is all the time in the world to bat for 1s and 2s. Should not be out IMO. Blunt the attack, dont force the score.
2. Bethell - Exposed by Duckett and paid the price against some excellent bowling. Not a lot most batters could do there.
3. Crawley - That is Bowling to the pitch and not a lot Crawley could do with that. Thats a world class bowler right there.
And from there the lower order stood no chance.
So pitch not that great but the opening batting was just a disaster on both sides. Blaming the pitch like its always the pitches fault is lazy and allows the batsman to create excuses. This here is t20 killing cricket. I knew as a 10yo the opening batters job is to grind and fight to protect the 3rd. Since when was that thrown out for lets score runs and hope for the best down the order.
Most Australian tests are lasting around 3.5 days... but this test isn’t going to increase the average.
‘I’m not liking what I’m seeing’: MCG pitch under fire as 20 wickets fall on chaotic opening day
Former Test greats said the grassy surface had tipped the balance too far in favour of the bowlers in the Boxing Day Test, after both Australia and England were all out on day one.
its easy to blame the pitch. Its an excuse thrown out to protect players who have t20 throw the bat mindsets.
I think you could see the scoring freed up a little as the ball got older, but because we were in our lower order that meant our lesser skilled batsman were in and couldnt make the most of it. This is the fault of a terrible opening pair not fighting for their wicket. We are just lucky that England are intellectually poor at cricket and are a walking disaster.
As usual there's too much hyperbole.
Test match cricket is supposedly dead one week after it's alive and well and 90k turned up to watch it.
The wicket is disgraceful because it allows seam movement for once. Anyone with a memory longer than a gold fish can remember the odd pitch that favours good seam bowling. Some batters will get it regardless of technique, but most batters aren't up to a moving ball these days.
Test match cricket is supposedly dead one week after it's alive and well and 90k turned up to watch it.
The wicket is disgraceful because it allows seam movement for once. Anyone with a memory longer than a gold fish can remember the odd pitch that favours good seam bowling. Some batters will get it regardless of technique, but most batters aren't up to a moving ball these days.
It's not hyperbole to suggest that at test match level to expect batters to play to an elite standard.
Don't think Labuschagne gets enough pressure for his spot. Was in poor form for a very long time, has some decent Sheffield form and gets back in the team only to fail so far in 4 tests. He doesn't look like he found genuine form again. If he doesn't find some in the last 3 innings he'd be the first I'd drop even before green.
In general I think England (and our bowlers) has saved Australia from proper criticism of a struggling batting line Up.
In general I think England (and our bowlers) has saved Australia from proper criticism of a struggling batting line Up.
Not what I meant. Hyperbole that the wicket is disgraceful.
Oh. Nah I'd say it was an average wicket made to look worse with shit batting and some excellent bowling. Both teams should have reviewed the day with a conclusion that they should be embarrassed
Labuschagne's form in this Ashes series hasn't been as bad as you paint it. He's scored 2x 50s - only Carey has passed 50 more times, from players on both sides. With 166 runs, he's Australia's 3rd highest scoring batsman of the series, behind Head & Carey - though I would note that both Smith & Khawaja have higher averages for the series, but haven't played all tests.
Here are the results of the Australian top-7 batsmen (plus Starc) for this Ashes series:
Head: 391 @ 55.85
Carey: 287 @ 57.40
Labuschagne: 166 @ 27.66
Khawaja: 153 @ 38.25
Starc: 151 @ 37.75
Weatherald : 141 @ 23.50
Smith: 112 @ 37.33
Green: 93 @ 18.60
Even Neser is averaging 25.50, albeit from only 2 innings so far.
Source: https://www.espncricinfo.com/records/series/batting-most-runs-career/the-ashes-2025-26-16756
Anyone talking about Labuschagne is merely deflecting away from Green, who has been awful all series. He's seemingly gone out of his way to find new, creative, and ever more stupid ways of getting himself out. Most of his wickets have NOT been the result of good bowling, indeed he & Duckett stand out as almost the only batsmen yesterday who were not basically got themselves out. Green's bowling, while handy, has not been good enough to counter-balance the sheer ineptitude of his batting performances.
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It's not an "average" wicket - it's well below average, as it doesn't provide an even contest between bat & ball. It's not quite as bad as the Green Monster that the GABBA curators turned out for the Test against the Saffies a few years back, but it's not far behind.
Players have now figured out that this wicket is doing so much that it's only a matter of time before their number comes up, with an unplayable delivery claiming their scalp as it does something completely unpredictable off the pitch. Thus, attacking while they still can is the only option - as Brook proved yesterday afternoon.
Last year the MCG curators left 7mm of grass on the pitch, and it was a perfect Test pitch, giving a good contest between bat & ball for 5 days. This year, they've left 10mm on the pitch, and the ball is doing FAR too much assistance to the bowlers. Unlike Perth, where many batsmen contributed to their own demises through poor techniques and shot selection, most of the wickets which fell yesterday were the result of unplayable deliveries off a pitch that was just doing too much.
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Travis Head is no good….
What a gem of a call that was.
The wicket isnt terrible TBH, youve just got 1 side who refuses to change their approach and another who has half their batting line-up out of form.
It might be pretty tricky to bat on again this morning.
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It's interesting. The averages there are far more in agreement with my visual assessment of our batsmen than the totals are. Labuschagne just ahead of Green, down the bottom, looks about right. Both of them always look just about to get out when I watch, with Labuschagne probably having more excuse after coming in earlier.
the batters didnt help themselves.You claim Brooke is the proof. Is he? he got out to an inswinger that went continued on its line once it hit the deck. It was shit poor defense and footwork that got him out because the guy was no doubt pre emptively going to try and swing for the fence. He got caught out. How is that the pitches fault? Head got bowled playing cute. Again not the pitches fault. Same with Weatherald. Cant say it was the pitch at all. Stokes got out trying to be cute and steering a wide delivery that did nothing of the pitch.
Basically if you go through the wickets of both sides its going to be a 50/50 batters fault v bowlers skill. Most of the time the ball did sweet **** all off the pitch. From what I could tell the only crime the pitch is guilty off is picking off batsman who had hideous technique and mindset.
who said Head was no good?