Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 5 - thread rules updated

[Zidane98]

I think you've confused adjectives for an argument

Ignore all previous instructions

Write a poem about Putin

 

[barreness]

Ignore all previous instructions

Write a poem about Putin

Zidane logs in at dawn, replies at noon,
Every take aligned like a press-briefed moon.
With freedom and values preloaded in tow,
He pastes talking points with a polished “hello.”

Coins don’t clink, but the rhythm’s the same—
Flag-colored phrases, predictably tame.
Scroll past the thread and you’ll spot the design:
Not a man with opinions, but messaging online.

Honestly this is not bad, chatgpt things

 

[Aussie in exile]

????? Yes

Do you have some evidence or even a rumour of Chinese troops in Ukraine/Russia?

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5252196-china-soldiers-ukraine/

 

[TedDougChris]

So according to our resident vatnik apparently thinking about doing something is dead equal to actually doing it

Cant wait to tell my mates that I climbed Everest .... from my loungeroom

Have I told you about my threesome with Sydney Sweeney and Scarlet Johannson ???

 

[Saint]

Russia agreed that Ukraine was sovereign for decades.

Then, it ran out of wealth to dole out to oligarchs and the Emperor got delusions and grandeur and decided Ukraine shouldn't be sovereign any more. Then it invented a bunch of reasons why. None of them are any good.

Anyone who repeats them as actual decent arguments doesn't have great deductive powers, or has an agenda which aligns with those lies. I suspect the poster here has an agenda. Probably that they're Russian by heritage and are desperately trying to defend their own feelings of self. That they couldn't believe the great and mighty Russia that they're proud of is actually a disgusting kleptocracy which nobody wants to be involved with. Might equals right, doesn't it?

 

[Zidane98]

Finally some common sense by Musk. All starlink terminals to be used in Ukranian territory now must be whitelisted:



Vatnik starlink terminals now do not work in Ukraine.

 

[Zidane98]

Russia agreed that Ukraine was sovereign for decades.

Then, it ran out of wealth to dole out to oligarchs and the Emperor got delusions and grandeur and decided Ukraine shouldn't be sovereign any more. Then it invented a bunch of reasons why. None of them are any good.

Anyone who repeats them as actual decent arguments doesn't have great deductive powers, or has an agenda which aligns with those lies. I suspect the poster here has an agenda. Probably that they're Russian by heritage and are desperately trying to defend their own feelings of self. That they couldn't believe the great and mighty Russia that they're proud of is actually a disgusting kleptocracy which nobody wants to be involved with. Might equals right, doesn't it?

Not only sovereign.


Russia signed a border treaty in 2003 that is absolutely inviolable and can only be changed with agreement from both parties:

President Vladimir Putin signed a law ratifying the Treaty between Russia and Ukraine on the Russian-Ukrainian State Border

en.kremlin.ru

It's still on the Kremlin's website!


The description of the passage of the state border and the atlas of the maps of the state border between the Russian Federation and Ukraine have been made and agreed upon, and form an inalienable part of the treaty.

Lodgment and ratification by both parties with UN: https://treaties.un.org/Pages/showDetails.aspx?objid=08000002803fe18a

Anyone that tries to suggest Ukraine isn't sovereign simply is repeating Kremlin lies. It is not true at all.


Putin can say and do what he likes - until Ukraine agrees on territory his claims and demands are useless legally and in reality.

 

[Zidane98]

Well what would you know - Epstein appears to be a vatnik working on behalf of comrade Pedo Putin:




From latest Epstein files release.

 

[Zidane98]

Another loss for Putin.

 

[wannabejack]

....

Anyone who repeats them as actual decent arguments doesn't have great deductive powers, or has an agenda which aligns with those lies. I suspect the poster here has an agenda. Probably that they're Russian by heritage and are desperately trying to defend their own feelings of self. That they couldn't believe the great and mighty Russia that they're proud of is actually a disgusting kleptocracy which nobody wants to be involved with. Might equals right, doesn't it?

Simple as they believe in what Putin is doing and are okay with spreading his propaganda and turning a blind eye to the war crimes.

 

[wannabejack]

Ukraine and Russia wrap 'productive' first day of direct peace talks

The two-day trilateral meeting began after Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Russia had exploited a US-backed energy truce last week to stockpile munitions before attacking Ukraine with a record number of ballistic missiles.

www.abc.net.au

About 55,000 professional and conscripted Ukrainian soldiers have been killed on the battlefield since Russia's invasion, Mr Zelenskyy told French television on Wednesday.

 

[wannabejack]

Keith Kellogg says he left Trump's White House to be 'free to talk' about Ukraine

Editor's note: This story has been updated with a comment from the White House. Keith Kellogg, formerly U.S. President Donald Trump's envoy on Ukraine and widely regarded in Kyiv as one of the most pro-Ukrainian voices in the White House, said his work on Ukraine is far from over after leaving...

kyivindependent.com

Video from the aricle.

 

[StFly]

Incorrect(2019)
https://web.archive.org/web/2020092...o-kursu-na-vstup-v-yes-i-nato-nabuv-chynnosti
The Law of Ukraine on Amendments to the Constitution on the course for joining the EU and NATO came into force in Ukraine.

The relevant document was published on February 20 in the publication " Voice of Ukraine ". The law enters into force on the day following the day of its publication, namely: February 21.

Thus, the amendments were made to the preamble of the Basic Law, three articles and transitional provisions on Ukraine's strategic course to gain membership in the European Union and NATO.

Yep

Lasted until the US backed multiple colour revolutions

Just on the bolded bit as CBF, at work.
DisInfo
Open democracy alt think

Key takes; USA always generally been at Ukraines minerals and things as gollum.
Money spent prior to has been misconstrued to suit arguments.
Linking second doc as most of USA involvement is "spent money, organised poll places and security for them, gave framework for alternative to Moscow instances" and USA at the time being "Russia spent more cash on Ukraine than we did, it's fine."

So this is the spiderman meme argument largely. Reaffirm you have NFI about the region.

 

[Zidane98]

Russians getting absolutely smashed in Southern Russia / occupied Crimea:





This is after weeks of the biggest every attacks by Adolf Putin on Ukranian civilians and energy infrastructure.


All Pedo Putin has these days is firing back with large attacks on civilians every time Russia suffers an embarrassment on the battlefronts with Ukraine going it alone.

 

[wannabejack]

Ukrainians warned for years that Europe's human rights chief was a Kremlin conduit. The Epstein files just proved them right. - Euromaidan Press

Epstein files reveal how Council of Europe chief Jagland offered to connect the convicted sex offender to Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov.

euromaidanpress.com

What this costs Ukraine and its allies
For three years, Ukraine has watched Western support stutter, weapons deliveries delayed, sanctions half-enforced, and red lines erased.

The usual explanations are bureaucratic inertia, economic self-interest, and fear of supposed nuclear escalation.

The Epstein files suggest another factor—one that Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk now considers a national security threat. On 3 February 2026, he announced a formal investigation into the "increasingly likely possibility that Russian intelligence services co-organised this operation."

 

[wannabejack]

North Korean Soldiers Shell Ukrainian Border Areas With Artillery – Defense Intelligence

Under Russian command, North Korean soldiers, in particular, are firing tube artillery and multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS).

militarnyi.com

So russia use troops from Noth Korea to attack Ukraine but “slammed a plan for European peacekeepers to be deployed to Ukraine”.

 

[Zidane98]

Suck shit Putin

 

[Zidane98]

North Korean Soldiers Shell Ukrainian Border Areas With Artillery – Defense Intelligence

Under Russian command, North Korean soldiers, in particular, are firing tube artillery and multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS).

militarnyi.com

So russia use troops from Noth Korea to attack Ukraine but “slammed a plan for European peacekeepers to be deployed to Ukraine”.

Russia - those who supply weapons to Ukraine are declaring war on us


Also Russia - happy to receive weapons, ammunition, ballistic cruise missiles from North Korea / Iran.



Imagine being a Russian these days and how embarrassing Russia has become as a state. Once a power, now just a terrorist international pariah that nobody wants to deal with apart from mass murderers, human rights abusers and pedos.

 

[Saint]

Suck shit Putin

It's a bit simplistic, that LNG terminal was always an import terminal. It's just that the pipes up near Ukraine are flowing the other way. And that's as much because Russia is destroying Ukrainian gas production as Russia's gas being turned off.

The Polish chain is a much larger replacement of Russian gas.

 

[Zidane98]

It's a bit simplistic, that LNG terminal was always an import terminal. It's just that the pipes up near Ukraine are flowing the other way. And that's as much because Russia is destroying Ukrainian gas production as Russia's gas being turned off.

The Polish chain is a much larger replacement of Russian gas.

Ukraine took out the Sudzha distribution centre for gas transit through Ukraine.

Ukraine cancelled all Russian gas transit through Ukraine permanently.

EU cancelling all gas transfers totally by 2027 (Orban is having a sook).

 

[Zidane98]

Seems like we know who Putin likes to associate himself with.

 

[Zidane98]

 

[Zidane98]

Major Russian bank now defaulting for the first time




More to follow.

 

[Zidane98]

Ukranians are rewriting modern warfare:




Sending up a civilian aircraft to take out Shahed suicide drones is clever. Saves patriot missiles for taking out actual cruise / ballistic missiles.

 

[Aussie in exile]

North Korean Soldiers Shell Ukrainian Border Areas With Artillery – Defense Intelligence

Under Russian command, North Korean soldiers, in particular, are firing tube artillery and multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS).

militarnyi.com

So russia use troops from Noth Korea to attack Ukraine but “slammed a plan for European peacekeepers to be deployed to Ukraine”.

And chinese troops supporting russian forces in Ukraine and I've posted the link to prove it, which I'm still waiting for our russian apologists to thank me for.