Wow! Fair to say he’s not the player I’d of chosen from our team, genuine contender as leagues best right now, our player IMO is Mark O’Connor, he’s done a reasonable job on Neale a couple of times, but overall I think he’s rated higher externally than his career output would dictate.
Hawthorn haven’t even hit rock bottom yet, and atm only the Roos are worse! They went chips in with Mitchell as the “man” & he is proving to be anything but, whereas we will continue to do what we’ve done for basically the entire millennium, filter young players through the team (when earned)...
The other half of my family are Pies legends members (which brings me great shame 😂) and you’re right, they said that Buckley was basically pushed by the majority of the playing group at the end, wasn’t very accommodating to the players families etc apparently, and the players were just on...
Right you are, I think the only equitable thing to do would be a merger with them and lolnorf so the league is back to 18 teams, split evenly between Vic and Non-Vic teams.
That’s a very simplistic way to view things, I don’t claim to know exactly how many overall, but I know in at least 2012, 2014, 2021 & 2022 he was top 3 in the Coleman, and in 3 of them years he received AA honours because he was seen to have been the best overall forward of them seasons.
Going by my pop (I’m much too young to know) it goes back to Kennedy vs Davis, Davis calling Kennedy’s Commandos the dirtiest team in the league, and subsequently after the 1963 GF we buried a dead Hawk at KP… When he found out Kennedy was not pleased to say the least apparently.
Just realising you minnows are hardly worth being called a rival anymore, you’re quickly approaching 10 years without a finals win, your 4-time premiership coach hates your club with a passion, & we destroyed you from the inside out by taking Smith years after that infamous 2016 QF. Our job is done.
He has been a crucial (arguably deciding) factor in our last two premierships, he started off win the first two goals to set the tone in the 2022 GF, and his second half in the 2011 GF was the difference no doubt about it, so being a big game player provides another reason why he’s an all time...
The 800 goal forward comment was alongside the fact he’s about to reach 300 goal assists, Eg he’s kicked an enormous amount himself, whilst being the most unselfish of all players in his position.
Gary Ablett and Wayne Carey are better than elite, they’re top 5 players of all time. Legends of the game. Dermott is not in that bracket, I’d say Hawkins sits alongside Dermott for quality and importance, but remember that footy is played so much differently now, there’s a strong case to...
He is universally seen as a top 3 forward since the start of this millennium, in my eyes (but of course I’m biased) he is second after Buddy. If that doesn’t enable a guy to be “elite” nothing will, and just on stats, soon enough Hawkins will become the only guy in league history to be an 800...
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