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    The new man on the mark rule is utterly ridiculous.

    Right, that was the question everyone had when the rule was first announced -- why not step back 30cm and then move however you like. Then last month the AFL decided that you have to either be on the mark or at least 5m away from it. BECAUSE WHAT WILL FIX THIS IS EVEN MORE RULES.
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    Gil's Era is Ruining the Game?

    It's gotten so bad that we're getting rule changes designed to fix the previous rule changes all within the same off-season. They can't even make it through Round 1 any more before needing to layer on more rules to deal with problems created by the last rules.
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    Greatest Dynasty of the 21st century - Lions vs Cats vs Hawks vs Tigers

    Holy hell, I know it's subjective, but there are some real howlers on this list to me. Fremantle 2015 were an absolute shell of a team by the time they limped into finals - and they're the 6th best since 2000? The criteria are pretty distorting, too. St Kilda 2009 are #1 but wouldn't be on the...
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    Greatest Dynasty of the 21st century - Lions vs Cats vs Hawks vs Tigers

    I think the "hunted" thing is worth considering. Especially in the last five years, we've seen front-runner teams consistently get worked out and taken down, and the flag going to teams that weren't squarely in the cross-hairs all year. Hawthorn 2013-2015 is the only one of the "dynasty" teams...
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    Greatest Dynasty of the 21st century - Lions vs Cats vs Hawks vs Tigers

    imo a factor was Brisbane executing the first threepeat since the 1950s. Many footy watchers had never seen one, or even thought one was possible in modern football. It was genuinely shocking.
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    Greatest Dynasty of the 21st century - Lions vs Cats vs Hawks vs Tigers

    I love these kinds of things. I did a thread once analysing ladder predictions posted on BigFooty, and people absolutely do tip teams they don't like to finish lower, e.g. Cats and Hawks fans always expect the other to have a bad year. There's a significant Vic / non-Vic divide in this poll...
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    Greatest Dynasty of the 21st century - Lions vs Cats vs Hawks vs Tigers

    Okay for fun I wrote a bot to break down poll votes. In this thread it looks like this: 94% of Brisbane fans voted for their own team, as did 92% of Hawthorn fans, 84% of Geelong fans, and 74% of Richmond fans. 101 out of 110 votes for Richmond are from Tiger fans. On neutral votes only...
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    Greatest Dynasty of the 21st century - Lions vs Cats vs Hawks vs Tigers

    Yep, Geelong 2007-2020 would be 3rd after Collingwood 1926-1939 and Carlton 1904-1917.
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    Greatest Dynasty of the 21st century - Lions vs Cats vs Hawks vs Tigers

    Collingwood 1925-1941 (74.0%) Carlton 1905-1921 (73.1%) Hawthorn 1975-1991 (71.1%) Geelong 2004-2020 (70.2%) Carlton 1966-1982 (69.8%)
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    Greatest Dynasty of the 21st century - Lions vs Cats vs Hawks vs Tigers

    Yep, this is correct. The parameters of the question are, of course, perfectly designed to suit Geelong - they aren't the best if we look at 4-year periods or 6-year periods - but even so, it's a heroic achievement. Best win/loss records across 5 seasons (no double-counting years): Geelong...
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    Greatest Dynasty of the 21st century - Lions vs Cats vs Hawks vs Tigers

    Well I'm sure you found yourselves in threads with some of the more outspoken ones. And I agree we've become a pretty intolerable fanbase since 2017. But for sure, almost all the talk of "unbeatable Richmond" in September 2018 was coming from outside - I mean, seriously, no fan group ever really...
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    Greatest Dynasty of the 21st century - Lions vs Cats vs Hawks vs Tigers

    One of the weirdest things about 2018 for me was hearing the whole footballing world saying Richmond were unbeatable for the flag (because MCG), while actual Richmond supporters were nervous - then when we lost the prelim, all these other people decided it was actually Tiger fans who had been...
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    Greatest Dynasty of the 21st century - Lions vs Cats vs Hawks vs Tigers

    Top 2 was a little harder than usual for Vic teams in 2020...
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    Greatest Dynasty of the 21st century - Lions vs Cats vs Hawks vs Tigers

    You are about five inches away from declaring that only one team has ever won flags in a WLWLW pattern while Jupiter is eclipsed by Venus, ergo they are the greatest of all time.
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    Greatest Dynasty of the 21st century - Lions vs Cats vs Hawks vs Tigers

    Yeah, although realistically, we shouldn't exclude the 3-flags-in-3-years teams. That's what PJays does to make it seem like 3-from-5 is rare and exotic and therefore more valuable, but in reality, 3/3 is a subset of 3/4, so that is the shortest list, and it gets longer and longer as you allow...