Past Kym LeBois

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Johnston was 180cms, Glascott was 183cms, Hunter was 183 cms and McConville was 183 cms. Des English was 178 cms but was a back pocket specialist.
Without being aware of it perhaps we have reinvented a mosquito fleet at Carlton,..
this time we have,Pickett small forward/mid,Zac Fisher mid,SPS mid,Le Bois forward,Polson wing,Sumner small forward ,Murphy mid/forward...apparently money on Polson to be good AFL player..
Dont need height when there is pace,adgility,going off both hands/feets etc....player makers who can create in the moment..
 
SOS is building the 21st century Carlton mosquito fleet - SPS, Fisher, Polson and LeBois. All under 180 cms.

Remember the mosquito fleet from the late seventies and early eighties? Ashman, Buckley, Sheldon, Marcou, Harmes, Keogh, Maylin, Wells, Armstrong .... have I missed anybody?
Speed and kicking skills a high priority this draft. I like it.

I like it too. You missed Catoggio. He was probably president of the mosquito fleet club. Dennis Collins and Michael Young might have been tertiary members of that club in first season or two I watched us. Wayne Johnston maybe not considered part of the club at time as probably too tall in their eyes.
Small players are back in vogue. Loving it!

DOB: 22.5.1998
Position: Small forward
Height: 175cm
Weight: 66kg
Club: North Adelaide/Koonibba

Oooooh, he's very slick.

Marks on the lead, keeps his feet, gets his own footy, great vision, dual sided, quick hands, likes a goal.

Might have a moment to myself..

Speed and skills always welcome.

You can add Bradley, Fraser Murphy, Evans, Naley and Gleeson to that list if you included the rest of the 80's !!! :)


Not really. Exclusive club and they closed it down about at end of 1983. These guys were too late to join and certainly part of the new look forward line that was centred around a marking giant in Sticks than an unpredictable array of small guys creating havoc. We played a style of kick it long to Sticks more so from 1986 onwards and during 84 and 85 the mosquito fleet era was coming to a close because too many of them were injured regularly and before Sticks come along Warren Ralph was the other dominant tall that demanded a different style of forward set up to what we saw before. We were going into a transition phase in 84 and 85 as Sheldon, Ashman, Harmes, Buckley and Marcou missed quite a few games as a collective mosquito fleet. Never really got back together as a full fleet after late 1983. We were actually a pretty ordinary team in 1984. How we ended up 4th I will never know.

Johnson, Glascott, English, McConville, Hunter, Kourkoumelis (McClure Shortest CHF, Fitzpatrick shortest Ruck) As I send this post I'm listening to Mary Hopkin

McConville was considered medium sized player that played as a tall because he was such a good mark.
Glascott might have got in just before the club closed off spots for new members but with his height he may have been rejected by carpet shoulders of getting a gig. English was too slow and purely a back pocket to be part of mosquito fleet club. Hunter like McConville was more seen as a medium sized player and great mark. However this team was so short anyone 6 foot was considered tall.

Johnston was 180cms, Glascott was 183cms, Hunter was 183 cms and McConville was 183 cms. Des English was 178 cms but was a back pocket specialist.

Yep. Their applications had to be run by the likes of Ashman, Marcou, Sheldon and Jimmy Buckley to find out if worthy of considered a place in this exclusive club. Most would have been rejected on grounds of too tall or too slow or not enough goal kicking skills.

Without being aware of it perhaps we have reinvented a mosquito fleet at Carlton,..
this time we have,Pickett small forward/mid,Zac Fisher mid,SPS mid,Le Bois forward,Polson wing,Sumner small forward ,Murphy mid/forward...apparently money on Polson to be good AFL player..
Dont need height when there is pace,adgility,going off both hands/feets etc....player makers who can create in the moment..

Certainly has the feel about it in terms of speed, talent and short players for era we are in now.
I honestly think Dogs had a bit of mosquito fleetish look about way they played. Like the Carlton premiership teams of 1979, 81 and 82 their talls were cameo roles. Caleb Daniel, Clay Smith, Dalhhaus and Libba sent their benchmark of what their team was about in the finals. The helter skelter pressure and skills of those 4 combined with Lachie Hunter and Tory Dickson was a bit too slick for their opponents. As long as the talls provided a contest the little guys did the rest.
 

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Lol. The fun police are out. Wudda a tossa

Missed this one. s**t post. The type we don't let stand if we want to maintain some sort of standards. Given it was 4 days ago, I will just respond instead.

First, what fun is there in lumping a group of players together? Did anybody look at it and laugh?

The issue the poster seems to have is that the 3 indigenous boys have been lumped together, apparently because they are indigenous.

The original grouping of Yazz, Eddie and Jeffy was because they were all lightning quick small players hitting the scoreboard and they were best mates.

Right now these 3 barely know each other. SPS is an inside/out midfielder. Pickett is a midfielder who goes forward.

We may be looking at Sumner and Polson to be goalsneaks. They could easily be in that group.

I get the whole overly PC tide that is sweeping the democratic world at present. I get that there was nothing derogatory about what was said.

Some people just feel strongly that these guys should just be thought of as players who are defined by their playing styles, not the fact they are indigenous.

I recognise also the hypocrisy in Tuohy, Byrne and Sheehan being separated as the Irish boys but we are not talking about a previously marginalised group.

No harm intended. Some relevancy in the response. Zero need for the bay style retort. Let's rise above and be constructive.

Derailing boring lecture over.
 
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Possibly but they were all rotating through as small forwards and were best mates when the call was made. At least you can make an argument for it. This trio don't know each other and have different roles to play. Being indigenous is their only linking factor at this early stage.
 
There is nothing wrong with people from the same culture/background preferring each others company. It's a completely normal reaction.

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I think people still mistake generalising for stereotyping. Without generalising, cultural safety would be a lot worse than it is.
 
There is nothing wrong with people from the same culture/background preferring each others company. It's a completely normal reaction.

I don't think anybody is questioning that side of it.
 

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