Roger Federer is not the GOAT

Brad Goodman

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So was Emerson better than Laver?

Was Kuerten better than Safin or Hewitt?

When the gap is as (relatively - 3 grand slams is not THAT many when one player has 17 and one has 14) close as this one, and the player on the lower side of the ledger has such a superior head to head record, surely there has to be room for debate.

No golfing fanatic would just dismiss Tiger Woods from an All Time discussion because he's won less majors than Nicklaus. Why would a tennis fan instantly dismiss Nadal on the same basis?

Woods only won majors over a 12-year span. Thats pathetic in golfing terms, he's not even close to GOAT.
 

Brad Goodman

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So f***ing what? I don't remember reading this rule that says your wins have to be over a lengthy period to count.

So you're seriously putting Woods in the same category as Nicklaus? He's probably number 2 and was on the way to number 1, but as it stands he never got close enough for it to be an actual point of contention.
 
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So you're seriously putting Woods in the same category as Nicklaus? He's probably number 2 and was on the way to number 1, but as it stands he never got close enough for it to be an actual point of contention.


I've never said he's better but there's no way known I'd use such mindless logic as 'his took longer to win' to try and justify it.
 
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Longevity is important up to the point where you've proven you didn't fluke it.

Saying woods falls down because he 'only' spent 12 years winning majors is like saying the bulls weren't that great because their six titles were all in the space of 8 years.
 

Brad Goodman

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Longevity is important up to the point where you've proven you didn't fluke it.

Saying woods falls down because he 'only' spent 12 years winning majors is like saying the bulls weren't that great because their six titles were all in the space of 8 years.

The Bulls as a franchise aren't eligible for best franchise ever though, it's Lakers vs Celtics only and for good reason.

If a boxer was 20-0 with each of those wins being knockouts within the first minute of round one each time, he wouldn't be eligible either.
 

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Very well played by Fed but laughable to say case closed with Nadal looking in good condition again
 

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End. Of. Discussion.

The greatest there ever was, has been and will be.

Mr Roger Federer. The GOAT.

Ive watched every grand slam between these two and honestly once it reached a 5th set tonight thought Fed was no hope. Feds backhand in the last set was extraordinary.
Quite satisfying to see Fed get one back v Rafa after being beaten so many times by him.
 
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